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01 Mar 2010, 12:50 am

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Why do people care so much about the causes of autism?
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Because they want to eliminate us. If you know what causes Autism, you can remove the causes (if the causes are external), or attempt to create a 'cure' - eliminating the existing Autism, then an in utero test, so Autistic babies can be eliminated before they contaminate the Neurotypical world with their 'alternate viewpoints' and annoying behaviors.

Its Eugenics - remove the undesirables from the gene pool, to create a world of perfect, identical clones.


Of course, if it turns out that Autism is a randomly occurring natural mutation, that would mean that nature has a purpose for the occasional 'special edition' and they'll have a hard time keeping that from happening. :wink:


Hitler praised the USA for its devotion to the cause of purifying the gene pool via eugenics. He really did! And the spirit LIVES! If they could eliminate all variations in human genetics, they would. Then a disease would come along and depopulate the country. :roll: Well, at least the Chinese could make use of our farmland, once we perfected ourselves to extinction in the US.


Yeah, but it wasn't Hitler's idea initially; thank Karl Marx for that brilliant mental breakthru....

Shouldn't come to any big surprise, by the way...



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01 Mar 2010, 7:34 am

Willard wrote:
ursaminor wrote:
Why do people care so much about the causes of autism?
Really?


Because they want to eliminate us. If you know what causes Autism, you can remove the causes (if the causes are external), or attempt to create a 'cure' - eliminating the existing Autism, then an in utero test, so Autistic babies can be eliminated before they contaminate the Neurotypical world with their 'alternate viewpoints' and annoying behaviors.

Its Eugenics - remove the undesirables from the gene pool, to create a world of perfect, identical clones.


Of course, if it turns out that Autism is a randomly occurring natural mutation, that would mean that nature has a purpose for the occasional 'special edition' and they'll have a hard time keeping that from happening. :wink:


I disagree. It is one thing if Autism happens on its own. I can see the moral issue of selective breeding. But what if a toxin (or several) in the environment causes it? We eliminated lead from most products because of the proven effect it had on people's health. Why would you want someone to develop Autism when they normally would not have developed it?



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01 Mar 2010, 9:18 pm

Meerkats gave me mine



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01 Mar 2010, 9:38 pm

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Of course, if it turns out that Autism is a randomly occurring natural mutation, that would mean that nature has a purpose for the occasional 'special edition' and they'll have a hard time keeping that from happening. :wink:

I've thought that too. Once society has evolved past the point where we don't need to be hunters, and aren't spending our every moment trying to survive, then perhaps nature can throw in a slightly different type of person who can help advance society in other ways.

Also, that post was incredibly cynical.


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01 Mar 2010, 10:10 pm

Aspie traits have been in my family for generations. I did a lot of research and I am quite sure that my great great grandfather already had obvious aspie traits. He was born in 1861.

It's genetic.



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03 Mar 2010, 9:16 pm

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Why do people care so much about the causes of autism?
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I love how the female reporter worries that she might have to give up her hair spray and make-up "which we all use".


I laughed at that too. I suppose I fail at being a woman.


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03 Mar 2010, 9:39 pm

Who will the Joker sneak up on, next?


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03 Mar 2010, 10:53 pm

Autsource topic

Joker aside, I believe the Autism genes are in everyone, and when the wheels spin a certain way from both parents (like Sickle Cell) then Congratulations! It is Autism!! !.

Williared has a point. Alternatively, I become more and more Autistic the more my son farts in my presence. :P


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22 Mar 2010, 8:49 am

Put on a happy face! HAhahahhaha!

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22 Mar 2010, 10:32 am

The Joker thought that it would be funny, for me to be a female version of Mick Avory, with his touchy emotions, included. Any other day, it would be good. Not on the day of that meeting, with my job counselor, boss and supervisor, which is today.


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22 Mar 2010, 1:17 pm

Willard wrote:
ursaminor wrote:
Why do people care so much about the causes of autism?
Really?



Because they want to eliminate us. If you know what causes Autism, you can remove the causes (if the causes are external), or attempt to create a 'cure' - eliminating the existing Autism, then an in utero test, so Autistic babies can be eliminated before they contaminate the Neurotypical world with their 'alternate viewpoints' and annoying behaviors.

Its Eugenics - remove the undesirables from the gene pool, to create a world of perfect, identical clones.


Of course, if it turns out that Autism is a randomly occurring natural mutation, that would mean that nature has a purpose for the occasional 'special edition' and they'll have a hard time keeping that from happening. :wink:


So true! So true...


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22 Mar 2010, 2:55 pm

Agnieszka wrote:
Willard wrote:
ursaminor wrote:
Why do people care so much about the causes of autism?
Really?



Because they want to eliminate us. If you know what causes Autism, you can remove the causes (if the causes are external), or attempt to create a 'cure' - eliminating the existing Autism, then an in utero test, so Autistic babies can be eliminated before they contaminate the Neurotypical world with their 'alternate viewpoints' and annoying behaviors.

Its Eugenics - remove the undesirables from the gene pool, to create a world of perfect, identical clones.


Of course, if it turns out that Autism is a randomly occurring natural mutation, that would mean that nature has a purpose for the occasional 'special edition' and they'll have a hard time keeping that from happening. :wink:


So true! So true...


That's because they're a bunch of Jenny followers, who preach the brainwashings of Autism Speaks.


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22 Mar 2010, 2:56 pm

I think the problem here is conditions which induce similar symptoms to autism, and are caused by external factors, being misidentified as the same type of brain development variations which are actually the cause of autism.

You can exhibit autistic traits due to a toxic reaction from some environmental factor, and those traits could possibly be curable, but you weren't actually autistic if your brain structure was not altered during your pre-natal, and post-natal development by said chemicals.

My mother suffered from Toxemia during her pregnancy with me, caused by the water pipes in Denton County becoming contaminated and leeching salt into the drinking water.

Numerous women were affected by this at the same period, and I can definitely state that my sternum being "pigeon chested" is a result of it impairing my bone calcification while I developed.

There were numerous children in school with me who also had mothers that suffered from this, yet I can honestly say that I never met someone who I was certain had the same type of wiring I did, though there are a couple of friends that exhibited semi-autistic traits, I've universally been disconnected on a different level than they were.


Were there a huge number of autistic children born in Denton County in the 1980's, I am sure I would have learned what Asperger's is before I did, I would probably have been diagnosed due to the condition showing up enough for people to take notice of the "similar differences" we exhibit among a wide sample of children in the same grade.

As it was, I was just a really really smart kid who never quite "got" some really simple things, and as such spent lots of time bucking against the system which everyone just expected me to fit in naturally.


I do however see aspects of Aspie traits in my mom, her uncle, her mother, my great grandmother on my dads side, to various degrees. I suspect that the only man I ever felt a truly paternal love from/towards, my dads grandfather, was on the spectrum. We identified with each other immediately, in a different way from our other relatives, and I was always as fascinated by the termites eating the rotten tree by the garden as he was. He was a 70 year old kid, and I cried when he died the same way I cry for my cats.



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22 Mar 2010, 3:50 pm

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Somebody farted and gave us all Autism! :eew:


That was full of win.



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22 Mar 2010, 4:11 pm

CockneyRebel wrote:
Agnieszka wrote:
Willard wrote:
ursaminor wrote:
Why do people care so much about the causes of autism?
Really?



Because they want to eliminate us. If you know what causes Autism, you can remove the causes (if the causes are external), or attempt to create a 'cure' - eliminating the existing Autism, then an in utero test, so Autistic babies can be eliminated before they contaminate the Neurotypical world with their 'alternate viewpoints' and annoying behaviors.

Its Eugenics - remove the undesirables from the gene pool, to create a world of perfect, identical clones.


Of course, if it turns out that Autism is a randomly occurring natural mutation, that would mean that nature has a purpose for the occasional 'special edition' and they'll have a hard time keeping that from happening. :wink:


So true! So true...


That's because they're a bunch of Jenny followers, who preach the brainwashings of Autism Speaks.


Here's a question, does anyone have links of what sparks these discussions? I'm afraid of it from hearing about it, but apparently I'm not looking in the right places on Autism Speaks.



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23 Mar 2010, 9:43 am

Come on now. There is a world of difference between using genetic markers of autistic mental traits and identifying environmental triggers for the bad effects that cause severe autism.

It may be that our general genetic profile that gives us our peculiar AS strengths leaves us with certain vulnerabilities that, if they occur, can leave us in a severely damaged state. What if the only thing that differentiates you and me from one of our severly handicapped cousins is exposure to a specific toxin which we have a sensitivity too?

I am happy to be me with my peculiar way of thinking, but I DO have a number of ways that I have been damaged by environmental and sometimes social events and I would certainly be happy to have avoided those thank you very much.