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03 Apr 2010, 12:54 pm

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Apologies pumibel, and not at all. I value your input and your post is clear - my thoughts are parallel to your own.

But this thread is somewhat peculiar where I may have concern. In any case, diagnostics are to be approached seriously, as stated. Too many confounding factors have been presented. BTW, I am female. I am uncertain if OPster is posing a question. I suggest this thread may not be prudent if OP is contentious.
look i had a drug problem, i know it has nothing to do with AS but in this thread i am asking a question!! am i realy autistic or did compounding factors and drug use cause traits that mimick AS, like i said my only trait as a kid was fixating and not being very socail and ld classes due to my lack of intrest in the subjects projected to me. i feel like i might be a target due to the fact it seems to me the drug issue was projected to this thread! drug use can cause many problems also i would like to note my sister has ocd and scizoaffective anxiety, i am told by my mom im not autistic but i have borderline personality and i fixate ! fixating is not just an autisic thing its just a symtome of it. Not to be rude but why would you insult my thread mam? im crazy i mean im not right in the head and i came here for advice not war and little rules that i must keep! i speak my thoughts, im honest with you and with myself , im just getting a vibe your against what i posted or mby im jut not in the loop.


:D Hiya, having just read the OP again and please understand I am not a doctor and so therefore cannot diagnose. However what I would say is that in my opinion it does sound very much as though you could be on the spectrum. Non prescriptive drug use could be said to be used as a 'self medication' and I have heard many many others on the AS admit to having dabbled in drugs, some more so than others. Who is anyone to judge the actions of others, certainly not me.

Did you have any speech delays in your early childhood? All you say in your OP sounds textbook to me! And if you are WELCOME! :D

The mimicing you describe is Echolalia, I am really naughty, I go into any accent, even if someone is getting offended I don't notice! 8O And I would suggest that noone on the spectrum is pure anything. It may be that you are Aspergers with some ADHD or even some ADD? I have never met a pure asperger, adher or autie yet. There is always something else to confuse us! Most have signs of other conditons such as OCD, Dyslexia, Dyspraxia, Dyscalculia, Semantic Pragmatic Disorder, Central Auditory Processing Disorder, Oppositional Defiance Disorder....the list goes on and on...so even if you look up Aspergers and see some likeness, check out other spectrum conditions and there will be some traits that you identify with too! So we are all DIFFERENT but unique too.

What you are telling us is that you experience a lot of things that most of us on the spectrum do, some more so than others of us. I hope you find some comfort and identity soon, you deserve that. :)

www.jelibean.com
no i had no speech delays infact i was full of odd qwstions that were beyond most people or kids my age yet i did have and still do have a very bad ld in mathmatics due to the fact i learn through unfolding picters in my head not by hearing alone, wen i try to do math i see black and white numbers in my head and nothin stands out, wen i think about sceintific things i see them in my head exaple uranium is denser than lead ! ! i see a lead sinker in one hand and uranium in the other and the hand with the uranium is lower due to the uranium being dencer than the lead, this is the way i learn and remeber through vivid image



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03 Apr 2010, 1:39 pm

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Apologies pumibel, and not at all. I value your input and your post is clear - my thoughts are parallel to your own.

But this thread is somewhat peculiar where I may have concern. In any case, diagnostics are to be approached seriously, as stated. Too many confounding factors have been presented. BTW, I am female. I am uncertain if OPster is posing a question. I suggest this thread may not be prudent if OP is contentious.
look i had a drug problem, i know it has nothing to do with AS but in this thread i am asking a question!! am i realy autistic or did compounding factors and drug use cause traits that mimick AS, like i said my only trait as a kid was fixating and not being very socail and ld classes due to my lack of intrest in the subjects projected to me. i feel like i might be a target due to the fact it seems to me the drug issue was projected to this thread! drug use can cause many problems also i would like to note my sister has ocd and scizoaffective anxiety, i am told by my mom im not autistic but i have borderline personality and i fixate ! fixating is not just an autisic thing its just a symtome of it. Not to be rude but why would you insult my thread mam? im crazy i mean im not right in the head and i came here for advice not war and little rules that i must keep! i speak my thoughts, im honest with you and with myself , im just getting a vibe your against what i posted or mby im jut not in the loop.


:D Hiya, having just read the OP again and please understand I am not a doctor and so therefore cannot diagnose. However what I would say is that in my opinion it does sound very much as though you could be on the spectrum. Non prescriptive drug use could be said to be used as a 'self medication' and I have heard many many others on the AS admit to having dabbled in drugs, some more so than others. Who is anyone to judge the actions of others, certainly not me.

Did you have any speech delays in your early childhood? All you say in your OP sounds textbook to me! And if you are WELCOME! :D

The mimicing you describe is Echolalia, I am really naughty, I go into any accent, even if someone is getting offended I don't notice! 8O And I would suggest that noone on the spectrum is pure anything. It may be that you are Aspergers with some ADHD or even some ADD? I have never met a pure asperger, adher or autie yet. There is always something else to confuse us! Most have signs of other conditons such as OCD, Dyslexia, Dyspraxia, Dyscalculia, Semantic Pragmatic Disorder, Central Auditory Processing Disorder, Oppositional Defiance Disorder....the list goes on and on...so even if you look up Aspergers and see some likeness, check out other spectrum conditions and there will be some traits that you identify with too! So we are all DIFFERENT but unique too.

What you are telling us is that you experience a lot of things that most of us on the spectrum do, some more so than others of us. I hope you find some comfort and identity soon, you deserve that. :)

www.jelibean.com
no i had no speech delays infact i was full of odd qwstions that were beyond most people or kids my age yet i did have and still do have a very bad ld in mathmatics due to the fact i learn through unfolding picters in my head not by hearing alone, wen i try to do math i see black and white numbers in my head and nothin stands out, wen i think about sceintific things i see them in my head exaple uranium is denser than lead ! ! i see a lead sinker in one hand and uranium in the other and the hand with the uranium is lower due to the uranium being dencer than the lead, this is the way i learn and remeber through vivid image


Well the side of the brain most used for visual thinkers is the right hemisphere, I believe. The left side is the mathematical logical side. It would make sense to me that your would have trouble with math if you are a strong visual thinker.

I don't know if you are going to get a definite answer for your question just from replies to this thread. You should spend some time in the forum looking at other posts and using the search function. I did that for a couple weeks before I joined last month. It gave me an idea of whether I may be on the spectrum and educated me quite a bit about AS and autism. I hope that your research gives you some answers and a little peace of mind.

Your original post was very confusing and there was so much to read through and put together that I am sure it confused people, and that is why I could see what Labpet was talking about. The real crux of the matter was that you believe a personality disorder could explain the symptoms that got you the Asperger's dx. If you look around a little more you will see that Asperger's is often misdiagnosed as BPD and other personality disorders. I don't know how often the opposite is true.



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03 Apr 2010, 2:08 pm

pumibel wrote:
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jelibean wrote:
slikk03 wrote:
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Apologies pumibel, and not at all. I value your input and your post is clear - my thoughts are parallel to your own.

But this thread is somewhat peculiar where I may have concern. In any case, diagnostics are to be approached seriously, as stated. Too many confounding factors have been presented. BTW, I am female. I am uncertain if OPster is posing a question. I suggest this thread may not be prudent if OP is contentious.
look i had a drug problem, i know it has nothing to do with AS but in this thread i am asking a question!! am i realy autistic or did compounding factors and drug use cause traits that mimick AS, like i said my only trait as a kid was fixating and not being very socail and ld classes due to my lack of intrest in the subjects projected to me. i feel like i might be a target due to the fact it seems to me the drug issue was projected to this thread! drug use can cause many problems also i would like to note my sister has ocd and scizoaffective anxiety, i am told by my mom im not autistic but i have borderline personality and i fixate ! fixating is not just an autisic thing its just a symtome of it. Not to be rude but why would you insult my thread mam? im crazy i mean im not right in the head and i came here for advice not war and little rules that i must keep! i speak my thoughts, im honest with you and with myself , im just getting a vibe your against what i posted or mby im jut not in the loop.
yea i guess your right, its very hard for people to understand what im projecting to them ! ! that post was a prime example . its very hard on you wen even the autisic people think your weird lol. i very odd and im on here to get help, i feel ive been dealt a bad hand due to autism or what ever else i have with it. not saying it does not have its up sides becouse i an see things others will never see in my head

:D Hiya, having just read the OP again and please understand I am not a doctor and so therefore cannot diagnose. However what I would say is that in my opinion it does sound very much as though you could be on the spectrum. Non prescriptive drug use could be said to be used as a 'self medication' and I have heard many many others on the AS admit to having dabbled in drugs, some more so than others. Who is anyone to judge the actions of others, certainly not me.

Did you have any speech delays in your early childhood? All you say in your OP sounds textbook to me! And if you are WELCOME! :D

The mimicing you describe is Echolalia, I am really naughty, I go into any accent, even if someone is getting offended I don't notice! 8O And I would suggest that noone on the spectrum is pure anything. It may be that you are Aspergers with some ADHD or even some ADD? I have never met a pure asperger, adher or autie yet. There is always something else to confuse us! Most have signs of other conditons such as OCD, Dyslexia, Dyspraxia, Dyscalculia, Semantic Pragmatic Disorder, Central Auditory Processing Disorder, Oppositional Defiance Disorder....the list goes on and on...so even if you look up Aspergers and see some likeness, check out other spectrum conditions and there will be some traits that you identify with too! So we are all DIFFERENT but unique too.

What you are telling us is that you experience a lot of things that most of us on the spectrum do, some more so than others of us. I hope you find some comfort and identity soon, you deserve that. :)

www.jelibean.com
no i had no speech delays infact i was full of odd qwstions that were beyond most people or kids my age yet i did have and still do have a very bad ld in mathmatics due to the fact i learn through unfolding picters in my head not by hearing alone, wen i try to do math i see black and white numbers in my head and nothin stands out, wen i think about sceintific things i see them in my head exaple uranium is denser than lead ! ! i see a lead sinker in one hand and uranium in the other and the hand with the uranium is lower due to the uranium being dencer than the lead, this is the way i learn and remeber through vivid image


Well the side of the brain most used for visual thinkers is the right hemisphere, I believe. The left side is the mathematical logical side. It would make sense to me that your would have trouble with math if you are a strong visual thinker.

I don't know if you are going to get a definite answer for your question just from replies to this thread. You should spend some time in the forum looking at other posts and using the search function. I did that for a couple weeks before I joined last month. It gave me an idea of whether I may be on the spectrum and educated me quite a bit about AS and autism. I hope that your research gives you some answers and a little peace of mind.

Your original post was very confusing and there was so much to read through and put together that I am sure it confused people, and that is why I could see what Labpet was talking about. The real crux of the matter was that you believe a personality disorder could explain the symptoms that got you the Asperger's dx. If you look around a little more you will see that Asperger's is often misdiagnosed as BPD and other personality disorders. I don't know how often the opposite is true.



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03 Apr 2010, 2:22 pm

slikk03 wrote:
jelibean wrote:
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Apologies pumibel, and not at all. I value your input and your post is clear - my thoughts are parallel to your own.

But this thread is somewhat peculiar where I may have concern. In any case, diagnostics are to be approached seriously, as stated. Too many confounding factors have been presented. BTW, I am female. I am uncertain if OPster is posing a question. I suggest this thread may not be prudent if OP is contentious.
look i had a drug problem, i know it has nothing to do with AS but in this thread i am asking a question!! am i realy autistic or did compounding factors and drug use cause traits that mimick AS, like i said my only trait as a kid was fixating and not being very socail and ld classes due to my lack of intrest in the subjects projected to me. i feel like i might be a target due to the fact it seems to me the drug issue was projected to this thread! drug use can cause many problems also i would like to note my sister has ocd and scizoaffective anxiety, i am told by my mom im not autistic but i have borderline personality and i fixate ! fixating is not just an autisic thing its just a symtome of it. Not to be rude but why would you insult my thread mam? im crazy i mean im not right in the head and i came here for advice not war and little rules that i must keep! i speak my thoughts, im honest with you and with myself , im just getting a vibe your against what i posted or mby im jut not in the loop.


:D Hiya, having just read the OP again and please understand I am not a doctor and so therefore cannot diagnose. However what I would say is that in my opinion it does sound very much as though you could be on the spectrum. Non prescriptive drug use could be said to be used as a 'self medication' and I have heard many many others on the AS admit to having dabbled in drugs, some more so than others. Who is anyone to judge the actions of others, certainly not me.

Did you have any speech delays in your early childhood? All you say in your OP sounds textbook to me! And if you are WELCOME! :D

The mimicing you describe is Echolalia, I am really naughty, I go into any accent, even if someone is getting offended I don't notice! 8O And I would suggest that noone on the spectrum is pure anything. It may be that you are Aspergers with some ADHD or even some ADD? I have never met a pure asperger, adher or autie yet. There is always something else to confuse us! Most have signs of other conditons such as OCD, Dyslexia, Dyspraxia, Dyscalculia, Semantic Pragmatic Disorder, Central Auditory Processing Disorder, Oppositional Defiance Disorder....the list goes on and on...so even if you look up Aspergers and see some likeness, check out other spectrum conditions and there will be some traits that you identify with too! So we are all DIFFERENT but unique too.

What you are telling us is that you experience a lot of things that most of us on the spectrum do, some more so than others of us. I hope you find some comfort and identity soon, you deserve that. :)

www.jelibean.com
no i had no speech delays infact i was full of odd qwstions that were beyond most people or kids my age yet i did have and still do have a very bad ld in mathmatics due to the fact i learn through unfolding picters in my head not by hearing alone, wen i try to do math i see black and white numbers in my head and nothin stands out, wen i think about sceintific things i see them in my head exaple uranium is denser than lead ! ! i see a lead sinker in one hand and uranium in the other and the hand with the uranium is lower due to the uranium being dencer than the lead, this is the way i learn and remeber through vivid image


:D Hiya slikk, well the fact that you had no speech delay and a fairly precocious speech would indicate to me (remember I can't diagnose but I do have a professional qualification in Autism) the perhaps your foundation (meant in the nicest way :wink: ) would be Aspergers Syndrome.

Remember that the diagnosis is young and has only been in DSM 1V (that is the diagnostic manual for doctors, gives them all the criteria to diagnose!) since 1993/4. You could perhaps find that before that many could have been misdiagnosed as Schizophrenia. Often with ADHD especially ring of fire rapid cycling it gets mistaken for Bi-polar. Indeed I was diagnosed as this before I kicked up a stink and demanded they rethink!

It is interesting that you think in weight. My colleague also sees letters as weights so it is not uncommon. Thinking in pictures is a topic very familiar to Temple Grandin, check it out! So for me anyway (my opinion!!) its a big warm welcome to the spectrum. :wink:



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03 Apr 2010, 8:25 pm

jelibean wrote:
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Apologies pumibel, and not at all. I value your input and your post is clear - my thoughts are parallel to your own.

But this thread is somewhat peculiar where I may have concern. In any case, diagnostics are to be approached seriously, as stated. Too many confounding factors have been presented. BTW, I am female. I am uncertain if OPster is posing a question. I suggest this thread may not be prudent if OP is contentious.
look i had a drug problem, i know it has nothing to do with AS but in this thread i am asking a question!! am i realy autistic or did compounding factors and drug use cause traits that mimick AS, like i said my only trait as a kid was fixating and not being very socail and ld classes due to my lack of intrest in the subjects projected to me. i feel like i might be a target due to the fact it seems to me the drug issue was projected to this thread! drug use can cause many problems also i would like to note my sister has ocd and scizoaffective anxiety, i am told by my mom im not autistic but i have borderline personality and i fixate ! fixating is not just an autisic thing its just a symtome of it. Not to be rude but why would you insult my thread mam? im crazy i mean im not right in the head and i came here for advice not war and little rules that i must keep! i speak my thoughts, im honest with you and with myself , im just getting a vibe your against what i posted or mby im jut not in the loop.


:D Hiya, having just read the OP again and please understand I am not a doctor and so therefore cannot diagnose. However what I would say is that in my opinion it does sound very much as though you could be on the spectrum. Non prescriptive drug use could be said to be used as a 'self medication' and I have heard many many others on the AS admit to having dabbled in drugs, some more so than others. Who is anyone to judge the actions of others, certainly not me.

Did you have any speech delays in your early childhood? All you say in your OP sounds textbook to me! And if you are WELCOME! :D

The mimicing you describe is Echolalia, I am really naughty, I go into any accent, even if someone is getting offended I don't notice! 8O And I would suggest that noone on the spectrum is pure anything. It may be that you are Aspergers with some ADHD or even some ADD? I have never met a pure asperger, adher or autie yet. There is always something else to confuse us! Most have signs of other conditons such as OCD, Dyslexia, Dyspraxia, Dyscalculia, Semantic Pragmatic Disorder, Central Auditory Processing Disorder, Oppositional Defiance Disorder....the list goes on and on...so even if you look up Aspergers and see some likeness, check out other spectrum conditions and there will be some traits that you identify with too! So we are all DIFFERENT but unique too.

What you are telling us is that you experience a lot of things that most of us on the spectrum do, some more so than others of us. I hope you find some comfort and identity soon, you deserve that. :)

www.jelibean.com
no i had no speech delays infact i was full of odd qwstions that were beyond most people or kids my age yet i did have and still do have a very bad ld in mathmatics due to the fact i learn through unfolding picters in my head not by hearing alone, wen i try to do math i see black and white numbers in my head and nothin stands out, wen i think about sceintific things i see them in my head exaple uranium is denser than lead ! ! i see a lead sinker in one hand and uranium in the other and the hand with the uranium is lower due to the uranium being dencer than the lead, this is the way i learn and remeber through vivid image


:D Hiya slikk, well the fact that you had no speech delay and a fairly precocious speech would indicate to me (remember I can't diagnose but I do have a professional qualification in Autism) the perhaps your foundation (meant in the nicest way :wink: ) would be Aspergers Syndrome.

Remember that the diagnosis is young and has only been in DSM 1V (that is the diagnostic manual for doctors, gives them all the criteria to diagnose!) since 1993/4. You could perhaps find that before that many could have been misdiagnosed as Schizophrenia. Often with ADHD especially ring of fire rapid cycling it gets mistaken for Bi-polar. Indeed I was diagnosed as this before I kicked up a stink and demanded they rethink!

It is interesting that you think in weight. My colleague also sees letters as weights so it is not uncommon. Thinking in pictures is a topic very familiar to Temple Grandin, check it out! So for me anyway (my opinion!!) its a big warm welcome to the spectrum. :wink:
well another thing is wen i want to know something i will find out the anwser to what i want to know, sometimes i will even risk my life to solve the mytery, exaple i have a cicada fixation. i had a goal to document every species in illinois and study them so i would be out at night with a headlamp looking for theese rare species of cicadas called tibicen dorsata and i found them all and i finaly put it to rest but i still to this day will go hunting for them. as of now my fixation is on trees and documenting every illinois species, and catfish, plus im a singer songwritter and thats my mainstay obseesion. but the problem is if i fail to find the awners i wont sleep and i get very moody and snap, however i do not fit an aspie look as its said to be the nerd syndrome lol, shure im a nerd but i look like a hippie with tattos and beads ect, i flip out if someone tries to change my dress code such as looser thinner clothing long hair and a red rag on my head!! the mind is a magic box and if we had the keys to unlock it the knolege we would gain it would scare us



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04 Apr 2010, 7:52 am

I think you fit the bill perfectly. As far as the nerd thing goes I think you are one in the sense of having really intense narrow interests that are unrelated to any social benefits. Forget what you think about the way nerds dress. That's just a stereotype. I've always been a nerd, but learned not to dress like one and in fact had certain fashions as a special interest for a while. I still act and talk like a nerd ("actually, as a matter of fact, that is not quite true, here's the research blahblahblah..." in the middle of people's chit chat), but I don't look like one.



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I think you fit the bill perfectly. As far as the nerd thing goes I think you are one in the sense of having really intense narrow interests that are unrelated to any social benefits. Forget what you think about the way nerds dress. That's just a stereotype. I've always been a nerd, but learned not to dress like one and in fact had certain fashions as a special interest for a while. I still act and talk like a nerd ("actually, as a matter of fact, that is not quite true, here's the research blahblahblah..." in the middle of people's chit chat), but I don't look like one.
well my fashion is camo tattoos and hippie clothing since im a hippie and all. i have been a nerd yes! but also very violent wen messed with or insulted so if i am a nerd im no pocket protecter type looking or let people mess with me type lol, infact im a very aggressive person like i say. i look a bit like kurt cobain at times. the speail intrest thing was my symtome that got me my dx of AS along with my bad interaction skills and the fact i hate to be touched, so my fixation at the moment is do i have AS? and i will not rest until i find out by compairing myself to others with AS. so far i feel i only have half AS traits and half borderline traits!!



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04 Apr 2010, 12:39 pm

You're talking like AS is some kind of thing that exists all on its own! It's not; it's just a description of the way a rough group of people's brains work. It's not like having a cold or something, where the cold virus exists as a separate entity; it's more like being male or female, where the trait is a part of who you are. So you look at the list of traits; you ask yourself to what degree you match it; and you decide whether "Asperger's" (or "Autistic", which is the broader category) is a good name for what you already are.


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You're talking like AS is some kind of thing that exists all on its own! It's not; it's just a description of the way a rough group of people's brains work. It's not like having a cold or something, where the cold virus exists as a separate entity; it's more like being male or female, where the trait is a part of who you are. So you look at the list of traits; you ask yourself to what degree you match it; and you decide whether "Asperger's" (or "Autistic", which is the broader category) is a good name for what you already are.
i understand what you are saying 100 percent since i have researched this qwite a bit!! i understand the list of symtomes but dont you ever feel like you need to know more about what this is? i have worked with many kanners people at my old job and they were very interesting in the way one might think their just a retarted person and then sit down and fix a computer that the staff could not do!! it was very amazing. i worked with the down syndrome people also and what i found so amazing about them was the fact some of the people that are to smart overlook the simple things that the downs people had the anwser to!! i have yet to meet an adult besides meastro meeks with aspergers syndrome thats diagnosed, now meastro meeks is days of the new.