Did your parents ever train your social skills?

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16 Apr 2010, 2:28 pm

They were very careful that we were to be careful about other people's feelings. Never mind our own. It took me a while to figure out that sometimes people dump on you for no particular reason. If I complained to my father that someone at school had been mean to me, his first response would be "I wonder what you did to deserve that."



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16 Apr 2010, 2:59 pm

Yeah I grew up being taught all the basic social skills and the dos and don'ts and stuff. And I've grown up being taught the importance of having company and seeing people and not becoming a shut in (which I end up doing anyway if left to my own devices, being a shut in.)
A lot of the more complex social stuff I've learned from experience or reading up on it.


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16 Apr 2010, 4:32 pm

I'm 42 and am still being trained. Nt's are very confusing.


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16 Apr 2010, 6:55 pm

Yes,becuase I would fight with most "therapists" and refused to cooraperate with them. The only one who could reach me was my mum. My parents relaised there was nothing they could do about my special intrests and was talking about meerkats 24/7 really that bad? My parents taught me about "true friends" and if they truely were my friends they wouldn't give a s**t about my weirdness. My mum said I didn't have to care how the other person felt or be intrested in what the other person was intrested in but I could pretend or fake it. They didn't try to change me and make me normal (which is what the therapists wanted) they just helped me so I could function. If I didn't want to do something you COULD NOT make me do it. Sticker charts and rewards just taught me to focus on the reward and if no reward was offered or I did not like what as offered or it took too long to earn it, I would not do what was wanted of me. For a while I wasn't allowed to "have" anything, I had to earn it and never knew when I would actualy get it.



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16 Apr 2010, 6:56 pm

jc6chan wrote:
Its weird because I can say quite a bit on certain topics of interest, but then when I'm done what I needed to say, I'm done for the day. I can't be flexible and keep responding with long answers regardless of what the other person says. So pretty much my thoughts come in "spurts" and when I've expressed my thoughts, it may take a few hours before more thoughts come to my mind.

Yeah, that's like me too.
Lately I can fake having a very short small talk with somebody. Ugh, but it is ever so pointless.

No one ever tried to train me socially. They just expect me to be good at it even when they all know I have AS.
When I was a kid they never pressured me to talk to other people, though I did get forced to hang around my sister and her friends, but now they expect me to socialise when they didn't care when I was younger.


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16 Apr 2010, 7:06 pm

lol...i was very lucky the way i grew up

my dads side was very shy and quiet which is what i inherited

however my moms side is a big italian social network, lol....i grew up with a lot of people around all the time, socializing, large dinners, noise, kais, emotions

my mother is the most social person i know...she easily makes friends and they are for life

i thank god i grew up in that strict, noisy, social, and VERY LOVING family.it helped me immenseley on learning the social nuances we find so hard...................i was a very weird little fellow but was accepted fpor who i was


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16 Apr 2010, 7:06 pm

Willard wrote:
When I was a kid, the social rule of thumb was : Children are to be seen and not heard, so any child who prattled nonstop at an adult for 30 seconds or more would usually have been told to STFU. My folks did, however, stress things like eye contact, firm handshakes, terms of respect like 'Sir' and 'Ma'am', common 'please' and 'thank you' etiquette and that neither tantrums and/or meltdowns in public would not be tolerated - period.

As far as friend-making strategies, not so much, but like you with the stream-of-consciousness talking exercise, I don't think that would have made any significant changes in my behavior.


Totally Willard.......me too.

My father also bought me "How to win friends and influence people"(Dale Carnegie, I think), encouraged public speaking and I was captain of the debating team in high school. I have often been told that I have better social skills and social etiquette than some without AS. It is all just a formula to me.......the skills are there, but the understanding still ain't. :wink:

Nothing like good manners to get you what you want sometimes. Good manners and social etiquette are good survival tools. But a life lived CONSTANTLY in this state with no rest leads to big burnout.......as I am currently experiencing. I am learning when to balance my AS brain with practicing behaving NT.......I spend a lot of time on my own.

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16 Apr 2010, 7:11 pm

brilliant mitch.....being polite and respectful of people will get you far.....if you are socially awkward but act like a gentlemen, you're in the club


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16 Apr 2010, 7:18 pm

AnAutisticMind wrote:
brilliant mitch.....being polite and respectful of people will get you far.....if you are socially awkward but act like a gentlemen, you're in the club

True, very true. I am always very polite and respectful and that has served me well in the past. However it seems that being polite and respectful is something that is now looked down upon. Being a douche bag, as long as you are very social, seems to be the new standard of behavior.


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16 Apr 2010, 8:05 pm

No. my social skills were pretty bad but my parents never noticed. One s pretty blunt and the other is a mild aspie so it was normal in my household to be blunt and outspoken and lecture people. I was taught manners but that was about it. I had no idea what was going wrong with my interactions with people until I was 25.

I think I have ok self esteem because I grew up wth my parents not knowing about AS. I think it is very hard on a kid to know their parents are not pleased with how they are. My parents were most concerned about my poor spatial awareness, sporting performance, handwriting and concentration span.


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17 Apr 2010, 2:06 am

jc6chan wrote:
I forgot exactly when, I think it was less than a year ago, my mom would train me to talk for at least 30 seconds without stopping. Sometimes she would ask me to randomly start talking about stuff and other times she would say something and then she will be like "ok, at least a 30 second response".

For some reason I found it really tricky. My mind would always be blank without anything to say. Sometimes I would only have 1-word answers. She even went as far as saying "doesn't matter how foolish your statements are, just start talking."

Its weird because I can say quite a bit on certain topics of interest, but then when I'm done what I needed to say, I'm done for the day. I can't be flexible and keep responding with long answers regardless of what the other person says. So pretty much my thoughts come in "spurts" and when I've expressed my thoughts, it may take a few hours before more thoughts come to my mind.


I asked my father for pointers, and it may have saved my life. My mom was next to useless... and it's sad to say so, because I know she tried so darn hard.



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17 Apr 2010, 2:25 am

My mother's as unsocial as I am, so she never saw any need to change me.

My father told me that I should talk to people more but never gave any idea of how I might do that.


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17 Apr 2010, 5:55 am

My Canadian parents tried to get me to lose my Cockney accent, and discourage me from talking about my special interests. The two things that make me, who I am.


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17 Apr 2010, 8:06 am

Not much. My mom would explode at anything that didn't please her we often lied to avoid getting beaten. My dad just ignored everybody. I never told them much about my life, school or friends, and they didn't ask either. It's very lucky they were not the only adults in my life.



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17 Apr 2010, 8:44 am

Willard wrote:
When I was a kid, the social rule of thumb was : Children are to be seen and not heard, so any child who prattled nonstop at an adult for 30 seconds or more would usually have been told to STFU. My folks did, however, stress things like eye contact, firm handshakes, terms of respect like 'Sir' and 'Ma'am', common 'please' and 'thank you' etiquette and that neither tantrums and/or meltdowns in public would not be tolerated - period.


I was 'drug-up' pretty much the same way. I think those restrictions are what prevented my autism from showing up for diagnoses for so long. I learned young how to present myself to people, what to hide, without really even knowing I was hiding it - or what 'it' was for that matter.



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17 Apr 2010, 10:05 am

My mum teaches people how to communicate effectively, so she kept reminding me to "make eye contact" and "don't interrupt someone when they're speaking". It definitely helped a bit although I still don't like eye contact and occasionally interrupt people. But my ramblings about things (continuously talking about something I want) hasn't stopped, my mum actually encourages me to do that because she can keep up with me.

And she encourages me to go out with my classmates so that I can socialize. I don't socialize too well with girls, but when boys are around I find myself being very social because it's so much easier because I can speak their "language" better than I speak "girl language". But talking to boys = you have a boyfriend because a lot of people in my school are very immature, so I rarely get the opportunity to actually have a situation where I'm socializing in a fairly normal manner.