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17 May 2010, 12:54 am

yeah in junior high I was by teachers and fello students.



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17 May 2010, 1:00 am

Some people think I'm on the downers. I'm not :lol:


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17 May 2010, 1:23 am

People think I'm on drugs, no matter where I go. I've even been told, that I look like a pill popper. :lol:


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17 May 2010, 4:10 am

Yeah everyone used to call me stoner boy when I was about 12 before I even smoked the stuff. I started smoking weed when I was 14 and many a time my friends parents thought I was on heroin.



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17 May 2010, 4:24 am

Sometimes my boss asks me what drugs I'm on, usually when I'm trying to explain something. He's joking...or is he :?



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17 May 2010, 7:21 am

Aspie-B wrote:
So I just wonder if people think, accuse, or indicate, that you are on drugs?


Parents seemed to think I was once and a while. I'd be questioned and my answer was always a no. I didn't actually understand what "drugs," were beyond something I had swallowed or smoked that was not from the fridge :) Lying was a concept that didn't make sense to me for quite a while, and there was some magic moment born from numerous times of accusation and in fact was not responsible or aware of what they were interrogating me about.

Whoa, you just helped me trigger some clarity on some s**t from the past (this happens times to time, especially with LSD as it's always with such intent and set and setting all geared in that direction)! I had some of these pieces, a few more just manifested and fell in like puzzle pieces.

So, here's what I think is close enough to your topic and question:

I know there were other times from middle school that teachers/staff/etc did that accusation that I was on somethin, which to note was not true. My father was a boozer at times and surely that assisted to have me conclude it's yucky and no want to be like what didn't seem very nice (trying to pull the description from then btw) or even fun. I do recall refusing to even take vitamins up till a point and it was obviously a side effect of all that being accused of being high or a touch drunk. Yet again, not sure when exactly, perhaps 19-20, my little brain had processed some information or had some mini-epiphany that slowly broke that repulsive and world ending "just say no to drugs" mentality. That's a possible example of the Aspergery literal/absolute taking that slogan to a logical conclusion, once "drugs," is understood to overall mean near everything out there ;)



The one specific memory that remains (god damn s**t memory when it comes to recall of most child-teen bits) fairly clear was coming home and being accused of stealing some item (can't remember what) from my sisters room. I stated that I didn't do it - Them unaware I was absent from the house for however long it was kids play kickball for a couple games (haha no idea how to even play now or if there were teams or what!) worth.

What I have is a kind of recall on a few of these times not visually or anything except my body language/emotions during my responses. It turned into where I already could detect they were about to accuse me of something... I would start to feel odd, perhaps a very slight tingle (I'd wager anxiety/stress type crap) and this realization nothing I could say would make any difference - That started to become the formula passing through my mind and it caused me to become very giggly and uneasy, which then made any eye contact utterly overwhelming and it'd work to trigger more laughing fits while in the head having the child mind then take the sense of SELF/I, trapped it in the head so to speak and then whammo --- Whatever oddity that brought me to find it odd that one would lie to parents or pretty much anyone was being drained of the dominance to become just another voice of self and controllable and silenced.


If the above seems to hold continuity for a day or two, it should be accurate enough that it's not false memory creation (they tend to go blurry and not hold enough mental imagery to connect to other parts). weee.


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P.S. LSD (correct dose range in mind) does many things, and one of them is take my already near visual only thinking, amp the resolution, bring visual thoughts at least 70% closer to what is experienced within the mind as sight within (i.e. activating another stream of conscious thought to be experienced rather close to what we are experiencing now and this is where those who freak out and fight against their own brain can run into issues. I felt the need to add this just to clarify that those LSD experiences first are: Crystal clear and most remember it all, and sometimes even with more accuracy than in the ordinary state experience they experience

Hmm. It's rare that people take the time to read up on this, yet, just in case an easy to digest book:
LSD, Spirituality, and the Creative Process: Based on the Groundbreaking Research of Oscar Janiger, M.D

Fck spirituality to be frank, perhaps the nonmetaphysical version or something... anyways



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17 May 2010, 8:00 am

When I was in high school I had the reputation of being the class druggie, even though I wasn't.. it was easier to explain than weirdly-dressed-spaced-out person with strange interests.



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17 May 2010, 8:34 am

I cannot say that I do not drink or that I have never taken drugs...the illegal kind...
I am against drug prohibition and the drug war and so on and so on..

I also know spectrumy folk who have been self-medicating for most of their lives, and far be it for me to judge them...

I feel a little sad that one of my closest friends had to spend so much of his youth hurting himself and his brain...and that certain substances are the only gateway fro him to come out of his shell and relate to other people...but I certainly unsterstand how it came about...

I am just sort of a lightweight.
I cannot smoke pot without crying for 3 days....one drag= 3 days of emotional instablility...more or less...
When I drink...I am easily prone to meltdowns....at the same time, I am surrounded by it...and often feel compelled or even pressured to...it comes with running a venue and having to deal with masses of people to whom I relate very little.

I have had positive experiences on hallucinogens....but I do not actively seek them out, because it is too unpredictable.
On hallucinogens I have made voluntary eye contact...I have had unforced lucid reciprocal conversations...and during the time in my life when I was using hallucinogens on a more frequent basis....I was more social that I have ever been during any other period of my life. They really helped me break out of a very rigid mental shell.

Of course there have been the times when I have also gone completely mute and spent hours hiding behind a couch...and that is why i avoid them...I am not sure whether the experience will be positive or negative.



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17 May 2010, 9:01 am

That's happened to me ever since my high school days, but then I can't honestly say that there's never been any truth in it. I have nothing against marijuana to this day, and I've also necked various hallucinogens and pills in my time. Some of my experiences on drugs have been positive, others negative.

Nonetheless, that's all by the by in the sense that people thought I was using drugs even before I started experimenting due to my ever-active mind making me appear spaced-out. I would imagine this is a label that apsies commonly get saddled with owing to NTs not knowing about our condition and how it makes us think and act.


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17 May 2010, 9:07 am

throughout life I have been accused of being on drugs

then I tried various drugs (including prescription meds)

none of them made me neurotypical (including nasal oxytocin)

or made me look any more or any less like I was on drugs

people have accused me of being high, low, tripping, on another planet...

if you don't fit in a category people are often confused

even though they have no idea what AS is, some people seem to have a relieved AH response whenever I tell them about my diagnosis

one person said "oh right, I just thought you were weird"

most of my friends weren't at all surprised

some of them hate it when I tell people and think I should keep it to myself

others announce it for me because they love it I am this way

sorry that was a very long way of saying YES

it happens to me a lot

it's a gift :-)


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17 May 2010, 11:55 am

No...I've been told that people are afraid to approach me, so I don't think anyone would approach to ask anyway. In my later years of high school I had some people jokingly call me a druggie. I hauled around a bunch of prescription drugs because I had an undiagnosed medical problem and I kept everything with me just in case. I had some people trying to buy drugs off me, but they were people I was pretty familiar with.



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17 May 2010, 12:46 pm

nanoda wrote:
People have made fun of me for looking "high" and I suspect that they think I am "high" often. The worst part is that random strangers and even teachers have been vocal about.it. I suspect now that lots of people just assume that about me and I deal with it. I don't touch any drugs, not even alcohol. I also rarely take prescription drugs. The only conclusion I've come to is that it seems to be something in my eyes, maybe the "aspie eyes" thing.

Edit: I forgot to mention that one of the few situations with people that I've recently had conversations with was a group of obvious druggies. I didn't actually realize it until after a few times, but I assumed the whole time that they thought I was one of them.


This is definitely to do with autism. I always look stoned too and when I actually am stoned (on weed) I look like I'm on heroin. When I'm on heroin I look sober haha. Apart from the snake eyes that is.



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17 May 2010, 12:48 pm

I constantly forget names, faces, and sometimes words mid sentance. Everytime I did this there was one guy at work who would always say I hope you had a good time loosing those brain cells, Cheech. :x



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17 May 2010, 3:23 pm

I just love the BLANK these days...


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17 May 2010, 4:29 pm

I've never been told I look like I'm on drugs.


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17 May 2010, 9:44 pm

YES, and I never have used drugs. Police, when stopping me for any routine traffic issue, will always ask me if I'm on something, and ask me if I've been arrested & why, and treat me as if I'm acting like I just robbed a bank. I hate it, because I respect and appreciate the police in general. They shine the lights in my eyes, and I can't take that. I get rude and jerk away from the light, and that scares them. I wish the police would get educated on Autism and Asperger's!! !! !! !

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