"fake aspies" and self diagnosis. DISLIKE, sorry.

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im 16 and there's a difference between hoping you don;t annoy people and caring for them.
To all the people saying a diagnosis isn;t worth it in my honest opinion it is. withpout my diagnosis I wouldn't have been prescribed prozac for my mood and anxiety and this has greaty helped me. My school is now giving me more support for it and I can now take exams in a room on its own for my GCSE's. Given I'd have a meltdown in the hall with anyone else the fact that I;ve got my diagnosis means I can do my exams to the appropriate skill level and thus obtain my future whereas if I was in the hall I couldn;t do the exams and thus would have no future. This is just but one example.

Also did anyone read the forum rules. It says its okay to critiscise a beleif but not the person themselves. It's like the second rule I think. I critiscise a FEW of the self diagnosees beleifs and in turn I get insulted.

I'm getting insulted by people double my own age in there 40s, just seems harsh. :/
Am I really that hated?

You know what is funny about this post? If I were faking my autism (and really, I still can't wrap my head around why I would want to do that), I wouldn't say that I am self-diagnosed. I would claim to have an official diagnosis and probably say things against the self-diagnosers.

Not everyone with Asperger's will need drugs or treatment. I was treated for anxiety (with therapy and Paxil) when I was in my 20s, and I do recommend therapy to people who need it. And a diagnosis will likely be part of that therapy. But I'm 30 now, and I'm good. I'm OK being a mostly hermit. I have a friend in my husband, who understands me, and my cat. I work online, for myself. I don't make a fortune, but the bills get paid.

I never said you were faking. Just go onto youtube aspergianstar did a video about people who pretend to have aspergers so they do exist, not many ofcourse but they do exist. I have only met one and I knew he didn't have it as he didn't fit any of the criteria. It made me upset because I really struggle with it and he was like "yeah I have Aspergers Im cool and individual"...just no!

That guy is a scary individual, and you'd do well to stay away from him, and not listen to a word he says. I'm being serious.

youv'e got my interest peaked. what he do to become scary. I thought he was nice but then I've been told I'm way to trusting and Naieve.

A lot of things. He likes to get people worked up just to see what they'll do, no matter what the consequences are for that person, among other things that I won't go into right now.

AphexSam--

You have to understand that you struck a nerve here. You knew you would, which is why you apologized in your thread title!

I think it's your youth that makes you think you can express whatever you want and then control the outcome by apologizing for your thoughts.

It doesn't work that way.

It's not YOU, personally, that is hated Ok? People are responding to what you SAID.

Perhaps if you were more specific, and less generalizing then you wouldn't have offended so many people.

Good communication is a skill that can be developed!

No one hates you AphexSam, it's just that your 'question' has piqued a lot of ill feeling. Hopefully you've learned something.

I'm thinking this is a reply to my post. If so, maybe you should reread your own words more carefully. You said people who self diagnose annoy you. (Nothing about you or anyone else having thoughts about annoying others.) And you said you don't care what the self-diagnosed think, not that you don't care for them.



Prozac is NOT an autism drug and one does NOT need an autism diagnosis for it. While I suppose some sort of diagnosis is needed to get it, not one for autism. You even say it's for mood and anxiety, not autism. So, if someone needs that, a diagnosis of depression or another mood disorder, or an anxiety disorder is what would be appropriate AND it's much easier to find someone to diagnose that than finding someone to diagnose autism. Evenmoreso if we are talking about someone who can diagnose and adult with autism or Asperger's.

As for help in school, well, most of us on this forum aren't in school. So, that doesn't apply, for us.

We don't hate you but we're annoyed at you for attitude of 'get a diagnosis or shut up'.

You shouldn't assume that your experience pertains to everyone else. You found that a diagnosis was useful. A good few others of us find that it's not feasible to go get one. I probably will at some point. I currently have the little issue of getting to a far off clinic and paying for the damn thing.

I've seen Youtube videos about Slenderman. Does he exist?

I have never once said get a diagnosis or shut up in this topic or ever so your;e point doesn't make sense :/

This point probably has been beaten to death, but I'd like to iterate it in my own words an experiences!

Asperger's Syndrome was not officially announced in the United States until 1994. My mother had twice taken me to doctors in the late 80s suggesting to them I had a mild form of autism, and they told her that there is no such thing. A lot of people go by what they were taught (minimal amount of work required to do their job).

I had grown up seeing councilors and psychiatrists. I had even been held back a year of school because they said I was too "socially immature". How many of these professionals that I saw even suggested Asperger's Syndrome? None. Why? Because they didn't know about it.

I got my diagnosis in 2009. I go to see a some therapist, who told me herself she has worked with autistic people. I told her what I wanted from the therapy: to be able to effectively deal with people. You know what she asked me? She asked, "How would I know when you can do that?" Okay, first off, I hadn't even made eye contact with this woman, and we were at least 30 mins in when she asked me that. This woman hardly knew anything about AS, and from what I could tell she apparently doesn't consider absolutely no eye contact abnormal, either.


Anyway, even today there are too many professionals who don't know enough or anything about Asperger's Syndrome who are in the position to say, "Yes" or "No". Also, you can't just accept a diagnosis as "true" or "false". People get misdiagnosed all the time. Not everyone goes through "months of testing" for a diagnosis. Some psychiatrists will do it in under an hour (serious here) on a first visit (still serious), and some want a very thorough examination. How much credibility can you put on professionals who still don't understand this syndrome as well as they should by now (and still develop whacked out theories for us)?

Before I got my diagnosis, I was very certain I had AS. After my diagnosis, I'm not as certain. What does that tell you about the credibility of HUMANS?


edit: minor typos

I didn't say you used those exact words. I said it was the attitude you expressed towards the self diagnosed.

At times, I have struggled to figure out what hate is.

Respectfully, I was seeing lots of examples of emotionality in all of your posts, and I wasn't sure how to address that.

(It's taken me a long time to come up with this answer.)

I have to assume I'm one of the ones this is meant for. For clarity's sake, I reiterate my only other post before now:



That in no way is saying that I don't care what you (or others) think in general. What it does say is that "I don't care if you dislike my self diagnosis". There is a difference. You (or anyone else here presently) don't know anything about me or how I came to my conclusions or what I've lived through, so you can't possibly have an informed opinion regarding anything when it comes to me (or anybody else you don't know).

It's when I hear generalizations about a set of people that I get annoyed. I was "Meathead" to my dad's "Archie Bunker". (Those are characters from a 70's show I grew up with called "All in the Family" centered around a bigoted man and his family.) I admit, I sometimes even hear generalizations where there was none. I believe you that there might be a few people that fake it, but why that is, I don't know! I don't come into contact, IRL or online, with people who fake having an ASD, at least not that I'm aware of. You do, apparently.

I'm not angry with you or hate you. I don't "hate" people. More sad than anything. Mom always said I need to work on that thick skin, however, I don't mean to say it's ruining my day or anything, because it's not. Just felt it was proper to respond since I made the mistake of posting in this thread in the first place.