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28 Jun 2010, 10:57 am

They have a version that you can color in yourself. You could get that one and some colored pencils and just say it's something to do when you are bored.



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28 Jun 2010, 1:47 pm

I found that book to be invaluable as an artist's guide. If you spend much time drawing human figures, you absolutely have to have a comprehensive understanding of the skeleton and musculature. Its just one of those books that any intelligent person should have on their bookshelf. You never know when a reference book like that will come in handy.

Hell, one day you might decide to build your own living creature from reanimated corpses. How will you know which piece to sew to what? They get so mixed up during dissection...

I also recommend keeping the Compact Edition of The Oxford English Dictionary around the house. Its great for browsing during long stays in the loo, except the weight of the volumes will cause your legs to fall asleep. Of course, once you've memorized it, crossword puzzles are no longer a challenge.



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28 Jun 2010, 1:57 pm

Willard wrote:
I also recommend keeping the Compact Edition of The Oxford English Dictionary around the house. Its great for browsing during long stays in the loo, except the weight of the volumes will cause your legs to fall asleep. Of course, once you've memorized it, crossword puzzles are no longer a challenge.


I too, recommend this one.



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28 Jun 2010, 2:18 pm

Sounds like my mother when she was alive. :roll: :roll: :roll:

"Mom, what's fun for YOU is not necessarily fun for ME! Please get that through your HEAD! Much as you would like it to be, I AM NOT YOU!!"

Too many parents think of their children as extensions of themselves and need to learn to accept that they are NOT. WE are not clones of our parents! NO child is!

Parents! Quit trying to make your kids into something they are not, and just accept them for who they are!


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28 Jun 2010, 3:31 pm

What Exclavius wrote makes a lot of sense. Showing your mom that you are mature enough to actually want to read this book completely (and not lose interest immediately) is the best thing you can do.

I also read the dictionary. :)


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28 Jun 2010, 3:44 pm

Ferdinand wrote:
My ignorant mother constantly tells me things that I like are not fun or interesting. I told her that I wanted to get Gray's Anatomy of the Human Body from the book store, and she told me to get something more interesting for my upcoming trip. She also encourages me to watch some shows other than CNN.

How can I put it through her head that I prefer these things?


What I and others did was ignore opinions about what I liked and continued liking them anyway. Teenagers get more rebellious, the more they are pushed, so it's best to let them find their own niche and explore that.



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29 Jun 2010, 7:46 pm

Hey Ferdinand.

The NT friend i mentioned in my first post, after reading it, asked me to add a bit more advice.
She is as I said and NT, and she is also a mother of four.

What you need to do, is find something that your mother doesn't like, and that most women "her age" do like. Use that in discussion with her, politely to illustrate your point. along the lines of "well, here's an example, you think I should like playing soccer with in a league with my friends, because it's the kind of thing that 15 year old boys are supposed to like, the fact is, that it is not something that I do like. It's much the same as the way you don't like to do <insert whatever it is here>, but most women (don't say "your age", that might insult her) do like. What you're telling me would imply that you should like doing that too, and that you should do it"



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29 Jun 2010, 11:04 pm

It depends on what your mom is like, but in similar situations this is what I do with my mom.

My mom doesn't encourage me to do things because they aren't fun but because they make me "think too hard" or because they "aren't relaxing." When she brings this up, I just remind her that they aren't relaxing to her, but they are to me. And just explain why it is. I would try the same with your mom. If she keeps going on "well I still don't think it's fun blah blah" you just have to ask if she is voicing her opinion, or saying you aren't allowed to do the stuff she doesn't deem 'fun.'


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30 Jun 2010, 3:26 am

astaut wrote:
It depends on what your mom is like, but in similar situations this is what I do with my mom.

My mom doesn't encourage me to do things because they aren't fun but because they make me "think too hard" or because they "aren't relaxing." When she brings this up, I just remind her that they aren't relaxing to her, but they are to me. And just explain why it is. I would try the same with your mom. If she keeps going on "well I still don't think it's fun blah blah" you just have to ask if she is voicing her opinion, or saying you aren't allowed to do the stuff she doesn't deem 'fun.'


Or, if she still says she dosen't find them fun after you've told her that, tell her "well, don't do it then"