Alternative dress, and open mindedness of others

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Well I would say that, if they are that shallow minded to dislike me based on what I wear, then they aren't worth being my friend anyway!

The Statue of Liberty is liked all over the place - she is generally known as a symbol of freedom and an icon at the gateway to the New World.

Rocky - yea thats right - i do get a lot of smiles, and approval. Many on the street that come up and say Hi to me are happy I am being who I want to be.. and they way I can make little kids smile makes my day too!
Some people think I am weird and voice it but they are generally youths that are hanging around together doing nothing particular. Its people that dont understand me that automatically pass me off as weird.. but its fine with me - I would rather be weird and be myself, than to copy other people for the sake of fitting in.

I am also a big girl (300lbs) and my costume looks great on me, and its also great at hiding all my wobbly bits too!

People can be so cruel, and i find people pick at what is there in front of them, like how somebody looks... People that do that are shallow minded, and arent worth listening to anyway

I live in the US and quite frankly, if the thing rotted and fell into the ocean, I could care less. I find it hard to believe that there are that many people abroad that would care either. You are obviously an exception.

Think about the extreme example I gave with a guy dressed as a nazi visiting a jewish temple. We have a lot of jews here in the US and I can tell you for a fact that they don't really like nazis that well. They are sworn enemies. I mean, most people in the US hate nazis too, but jews hate them more. Now picture yourself going to a jewish temple on statue of liberty day. Everyone is dressed in a SOL costume like you. Then the nazi guy walks in and sits down. Do you think its OK for him to come to temple dressed like that on SOL day? Or are you too narrow minded to accept his choice? How do you think your other temple-mates will react? Are they being too narrow minded?

You may be a big girl, but there are lots of less offensive outfits you can wear in public.

Now YOU are being narrow minded.

My ancestors came here on the mayflower long before the SOL got here. As far as I'm concerned, its just a piece of junk that some french guy lugged over here to help illegals find their way. Seriously, its just a big hunk of rotting brass located on a little island that could be used for more important things. If you think its that important, why not convince your government to buy it from my government - we could really use the money right now. Its an eyesore.

If people treat you bad when you wear that in public, then YOU are offending them. You can't blame them for disrespecting you. You are asking for it.

With that said, you are a nice looking girl that would look a lot better dressed more normally.

I know how you feel flaggy. I have these old taco bell shirts, I hate the restaurant but the t-shirts are comfortable, and I wear them all the time. I used to have 4 of them, but one got lost somehow. I'm convinced my dad tossed it because he always complains about me wearing them, despite the fact that he's the one who got them for me. So, now I have 3 and each of them has a tear or hole in them somewhere, just small ones, because I've been wearing the shirts for at least 15 years now.

Anyway, everyone who knows me complains about me wearing those shirts, they always are asking me to wear something else. It would be nice if they would just shut the hell up and let me wear what I find comfortable. I don't tell them what to wear, I don't see why they think they have the right to tell me what to wear.

I confess that I did the same thing. My work shirts were all yellow polo shirts. They had the company logo on them, but it was barely visible after a wash with bleach.

Just so you know, if "Taco Bell" or their logo is visible, you are technically breaking the law if you wear the shirt in public. Its unlikely they would do anything to you, but if you are at some kind of political event and get photographed, they could come after you. The reason is that you don't have rights to display their logo without their permission and most companies don't want to be associated with political events.

However, there is a difference between wearing a taco bell employee work shirt and wearing a T-shirt that says "I Love Taco Bell". If you are seen at a political event wearing a taco bell work shirt, it implies that "Taco Bell" supports that event and not you personally. That's when companies get upset.

As for my yellow work shirts, I wore them all the time until they got so thin that stores refused to let me in because of their "No Shirts - No Service" policies. Some people are really picky. I offered my trusty old work shirts to a friend to cut them up for mechanic's rags, but he refused saying that his wife's nylon stockings would make better rags.

PS - This reminds me of another incident with a store that pissed me off but taught me a valuable lesson. I live in Florida and I always go barefoot everywhere. One day when I was about 16 I went to a store and the store personnel immediately swarmed me and told me to get out and come back when I had some shoes on. I was fuming mad that they would discriminate against me like that. However, it taught me that people WILL discriminate against you because of how you dress. Its just human nature.

@Flaggy: You should make a poll of people here about this topic. I would wager that there would be only a handful who would criticize you for dressing the way you do.

I like the Statue of Liberty. My grandparents came here in the 1920s and I am glad they were welcomed (no they were not illegals).

And no, she is not "asking for it". There is nothing inherently offensive about the Statue of Liberty. Comparing it to the Nazis is just ludicrous. The Nazis committed genocide, while the US government, to my knowledge, is guilty of no such atrocity. Waterboarding...well, we won't get into that outside the politics forum, but not genocide, and still, the Statue of Liberty has nothing to do with that. And if she likes the way it looks and feels, that's what counts, not someone else's perception of what's "normal".

~Kate

When you dress that way, most people will think that you are trying to advertise your strangeness, or that you want people to know that you are different and special.

That's not necessarily a bad thing, but it won't be accepted by most people. Adults are generally expected to have an appearance that isn't distracting and doesn't make other people uncomfortable, if they want to function in society.

It's just a personal choice though. If you have no issues with being viewed as strange and possibly even untrustworthy by the vast majority of people than you should dress however you like. Juts know that most people are shallow and they will judge you for it.

I had some unconventional styles as a teenager but as an adult I am no longer interested in advertising my strangeness, I think I do that well enough without even trying.

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n4mwd - Please stop trolling on my thread. ]
It is NOT a political or hate thread. Go somewhere else to do that,.

Just for your information, Lady Liberty was completely funded by donations from people from both France and the US. The French made the statue, and the Americans made the pedestal

Kate - thanks for liking Lady Liberty.. there is nothing to not like about her.. she is beautiful and a symbol of good things She is also very interesting once you get into researching her

MotownDangerPants - I do not mind at all. As far as I see it, if people are going to think negative things about me, based on what I wear, they aren't worth my time anyway! One thing I really cant stand is closed mindedness, and ignorance.

I think people should wear what they feel comfortable in. If people feel OK with wearing the stuff on sale in the high street - that have all been specifically chosen to be there based on what a few people say about what fashion should look like - then thats fine by me, and their porogotive. Its not something I want to indulge in. Under my costume, or when I dont have it on, I wear cotton round neck t shirts, with something statue of liberty, or american flag related on the front, and usually tracksuit bottoms, or black trousers. Special occasions - when my usual wear isnt appropriate I will wear jeans and a slightly 'posher' t shirt, that still has no frills on.
I dont feel theres any need to be closed minded.

Sadly, I discovered I can't walk around in the world without thinking about how I look unless I don't care about being stared at. I hate being noticed. The best way to be able to walk around and not be noticed is to not look like something to stare at. If I had my way I would wear huge old clothes, giant rubber zip up boots in sloppy rain or snow, and in the summer write words all over my torn up canvas shoes. I wouldn't ever brush my hair.

But, I hate being starred at so I found my own 'secret' uniform, secret meaning that only I know it is a uniform and my family and friends know. It does satisfy that need inside me for consistency, expression, and comforts the inside me. I pay strict attention to texture, fabric blend, fit, color, temperature adjustments that allow additions or subtractions.......... The point is all in all it is no longer an issue, I am happy and no one stares at me unless I guess they think I look nice.

If I am honest - I like being looked at... one thing above all else I hate, is to be ignored.. and I definatly dont get ignored wearing what I wear!! Thats not the reason why I wear it, but its a nice bonus. I get alot of good attention from it aswell as the odd bit of bad attention.. but as I said before.. those who dont like me based on my dress style arent worth knowing or talking to anyway!

Flaggy, I am trying to help you not hurt you and I am not trolling. You are obviously oblivious to the harm that you are doing to yourself dressing like that on a constant basis. I am trying, to no avail, to get you to see the light. If you just wore it to costume parties then it wouldn't be a problem at all, but you claim you go everywhere in it - not wearing normal clothes at all.

So basically I wash my hands of you and you will simply have to get used to being referred to as "the fool girl in the statue of liberty costume" by your neighbors. I have tried to make you understand what you are doing is wrong, and I have failed.

So go do what you want to and lose all respect your neighbors had for you, I don't care anymore.

I see it differently. Maybe you (Flaggy) are doing yourself harm in some ways by dressing like that all the time, but that doesn't make it wrong.

There's nothing wrong, objectively, with dressing that way. Yes, it goes against social standards. That doesn't make it wrong. That means that, doing it will have certain consequences. So, a choice to dress that way, is a choice to accept the consequences, both bad and good.

exactly- and I do accept those consequences..
Ive got plenty of friends, and I have nice neighbours, and dont get any problems from wearing what I choose from them.
I have support from some members of my family too, and my boyfriend, and his family

It just seems that a few people cant stand it, and I think thats their problem because they are closed minded

You rock!

I never understood "fashion" in the first place.

I dress "like a dude" because "feminine" clothing is disgusting and uncomfortable. People act pretty stupid when you don't conform to their expectations. But I'd totally hang out with you in your Lady Liberty costume. Wouldn't trouble me a bit.

Hey! - well thank you! - I too have not understood fashion ever either.. at the end of the day, the high street sells what it thinks people will buy, and thats based upon what celebrities wear and whats on the catwalk and stuff like that.. so at the end of the day, its a few people 'deciding' what is fashionable and consumers buying it cos it was there...

I choose not to buy into that, and choose to do my own thing instead

Patricia from page one, in the copy and pasted facebook text, has only met me one time for 5 minutes, and met me in june.
I am adopted, and I recently found 2 people from my birth family- my brother and sister, and this lady is their adoptive Mom.

She seems like a nice lady, but her views on this subject dont make any sense to me
It doesnt make any sense to me why people feel the need to be like eachother.
I just want to be able to express myself, and not have people tell me they prefer me without my costume on... I dont tell other people what to wear.