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chuninabun
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01 Nov 2010, 10:54 pm

yea, most of you do what i do. Thats good to know! hehe, that's exactly how it happens too, i usually give a back story from an answer to an unrelated question. In this case it was for my kung fu class, one of the elder brother's i was talking to. I had to announce a certain medical condition, so they knew of it because it would effect my performance some days. And then on top of that i of course had to tell them i had social anxiety and blah blah blah. Now i definitely won't announce my new diagnoses lol, but i emailed him telling him i was sorry for saying so much information, and i realize it makes things weird and blah blah blah. I feel like a complete tool :(, i will of course still go! nothing will ever stop me from doing kung fu, its the only thing that keeps me alive, but it makes it more awkward :(



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01 Nov 2010, 10:55 pm

i mean if i heard my story, i would be like, oh this guy has been threw a lot. And i would listen, take what applies if anything, but regardless out of respect i would listen and i would generally care. And i like to hear peoples stories, everyone has a life story. But i guess i really don't think like most people, other people i think view it as complaining or just weird i guess. The fact is a lot of us have been through some crazy lives. And even if it does not sound crazy to another, they can't imagine the emotional intenseness of every situation or the way we feel and or suffer. I was in the army, and i had friends that got back from the war. I almost went off myself, but i was lucky and got hurt 1 month before hand. Anyway, these guys showed less symptoms then i did, i showed most of the ptsd symptoms as well and i did not go anywhere. I respect them of course, just using this as a sort of analogy. But one of my friends came back, and i had to push him away because he got very arrogant after wards. He only went off for 1 year, his war was for 1 year, he signed up for it, and he got paid for it, he will be a hero. My war has been 15 years, i do not get paid for it, and i am not allowed to tell anyone about it, the suffering lasted 24 hours a day 7 days a week. People can never understand what we go threw, i have the thousand yard stare, and i didn't leave home. People are so linear in thinking, that if you did not get shot at or are starving or have no money that you can not suffer or have not been through anything. I think mental anguish is by far one of the worst kinds of trials to go through. Even regular people can learn something from others with illnesses, experience is everything, everything. Well i guess that is how it has felt to me, like a true battle. Boot camp was a joke, the military survivle school i went to when i was 16 ( i was sent there because i was a screw up, we now know i was having melt downs not tantrums), it was 10x harder then boot camp, and even that was a joke compared to any of the mental anguish i was feeling. Anyway, point is, being normal is not all its cracked up to be and most normal people i have met have a lack of depth and ability to connect and go into another's depth and see the individual as the special individual he or she might be.



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01 Nov 2010, 11:12 pm

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Nope. It takes YEARS of knowing a person to feel comfortable to open up just a little bit to a certain person.

Yeah, I have some of this aspect, too. In large part from hiding OCD starting age 16 and esp age 17.

Also I find I open up to people to an extent and just stop. It's like I've realized I've given a long paragraph of information instead of letting it ping-pong back and forth (which is why I write well. Long interesting paragraphs make for very good writing. But face-to-face it's better to have shorter dialogue)



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02 Nov 2010, 2:42 am

I have the same underlying problem (inability to determine what is too personal/intimate to share), but I tend to go to the other extreme and share very little.


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02 Nov 2010, 5:27 am

I do this. I am unable to be comfortable with the natural pacing of a conversation and I blurt if I'm anxious.



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02 Nov 2010, 5:39 am

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I do this. I am unable to be comfortable with the natural pacing of a conversation and I blurt if I'm anxious.


I do that too, not as much as a I used to though. I find now that it depends who I'm with, but I either don't say anything or say too much, need to work on the balance. I hate the feeling when you realize you've said too much but don't know how to take it back.



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02 Nov 2010, 5:54 am

Yes, I have this problem too. If I know someone for like 4 days, I tell them a lot of things I shouln't tell.
I'm also working on the ''how are you'' thing. Sometimes, if someone ask me this question, I take it literally and tell exactly how I feel. That scares a lot off people from having more contact with me :(
I'm just not good at small talk, so I get personally fast. I also tend to talk about dogs ( my obsession) all the time and don't notice that this is boring for some people.
But I'm working on it.



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02 Nov 2010, 6:13 am

Yes, this is a huge problem for me.

I tell people I havn't really known that long every detail. It seems like I almost feel obliged to. I know I shouldn't be telling people so much, but I really struggle to control it. I suspect it is a trate born of being perceived and treated as inferior.


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02 Nov 2010, 1:15 pm

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. . . I suspect it is a trate born of being perceived and treated as inferior.
Yeah, I feel some of that, too, a need to overcompensate. And, hey, I don't need to. I'm just where I need to be.



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02 Nov 2010, 1:56 pm

oh yea well i definitely have 0 self esteem, its completely non existant, even tho i have done enough in my life to be arrogant as hell. I spent the last 3 days obsessing over my conversation with them lol. Unreasonable i know!, im starting to like being different tho.



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02 Nov 2010, 2:00 pm

I do this, but usually only with people I intuit can handle it.


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02 Nov 2010, 6:18 pm

yeah i have opened up to ppl a few days after knowing them but i wait for them to go first just in silence just in case i look awkward


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02 Nov 2010, 6:41 pm

i do this but there is a reason we do it in my opinion. it has something to do with "establishing a connection"....Nts establish connections through social chit chat, and i know they share. but they take more time to start sharing than we do, because maybe we are less patient and more impulsive. If i want to establish a connection and befriend someone, i will share, because i can feel strictly no connection forming itself from the meaningless conversation we are having. And i don't have the patience to wait a month that we know each other a bit better to start sharing: if i have been having superficial conversations with a NT for a month, he might feel the bond tightening slowly because that's how they are, but for me they are stuck in "hello how are the kids goodbye "zone, we will never be friends unless he suddently tells me about his hard childhood or same sex interests which might make me see him in a different way , and i would then "give him another chance"as a friend.
after a month of no sharing, i see people as aquaintances. that's why i push for friendship in the first week and end up alone and being called weird :lol:



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02 Nov 2010, 6:56 pm

Yes. This used to be a huge problem for me when I was younger, and I still continue to struggle with it to this day, but (hopefully) to a lesser degree.



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02 Nov 2010, 7:01 pm

ediself wrote:
i do this but there is a reason we do it in my opinion. it has something to do with "establishing a connection"....Nts establish connections through social chit chat, and i know they share. but they take more time to start sharing than we do, because maybe we are less patient and more impulsive. If i want to establish a connection and befriend someone, i will share, because i can feel strictly no connection forming itself from the meaningless conversation we are having. And i don't have the patience to wait a month that we know each other a bit better to start sharing: if i have been having superficial conversations with a NT for a month, he might feel the bond tightening slowly because that's how they are, but for me they are stuck in "hello how are the kids goodbye "zone, we will never be friends unless he suddently tells me about his hard childhood or same sex interests which might make me see him in a different way , and i would then "give him another chance"as a friend.
after a month of no sharing, i see people as aquaintances. that's why i push for friendship in the first week and end up alone and being called weird :lol:


Yes, I think this is true for me too.



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02 Nov 2010, 7:02 pm

Unfortunately yes. I am working on it, but so far there's not much improvement.