I have a theory about why God created Aspies.

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09 Nov 2010, 7:25 pm

And look at the controversy go. Whee!

Religion is only useful to me when I can observe the psychology of the people behind it.

Oh, and so I can say things like "God damnit!"



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09 Nov 2010, 7:43 pm

In answer to the OP, I think God appreciates diversity in his creation. I don't know any diagnosed Aspies other than my son. He is an awesome person. My favorite person. Not just because he's my son, but because he is so much *person* in a single body. He inspires me. He is full of joy and wonder. He wants to learn for the sake of knowledge. He is not bitter or cynical. He does not put down others and he does not realize when others are putting him down. While many of his qualities are that of a child, I have met many children his age that are already vindictive jerks. Speaking of...

The only fundamentalists on this thread are the atheists. Wow. :(



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09 Nov 2010, 7:54 pm

tooty wrote:
The only fundamentalists on this thread are the atheists. Wow. :(

I noticed this too.

Some people are atheists for all the wrong reasons. But I suppose that is to be expected.



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09 Nov 2010, 8:28 pm

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I do love how this turned into a religious semi flame war.
Oh wow. Are you kidding me? You make the second thread in the post starting the ever-generic, ever-present "religion vs. atheism" conflict in the thread, and you think you have the right to now step back and believe you didn't start it?

For f**** sake, your post was almost irrelevant to the topic post. This topic is about theorizing what a hypothetical God would do. Which had nothing to do with existence of a God. You could basically be calling the thread creator


Actually I found his post to be reasonable in nature. He disputed the premise of the question which - while hypothetical in focus - was worded in such a way as to suggest that 'God' exists.

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I do love how (some) Atheists apply their thought process the same as (some) Christians do: "(Ignores topic at hand) I have the absolute truth.


Atheists do not require absolute truth of anything. The onus is on believers to prove their claims.

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Allow me to state it; I will now criticize something about you or your beliefs. Oh, now I'm offended that you defended yourself and I'm going to call you an arrogant idiot for it."


I see this as an issue of age and of AS. We're hardly renowned for our geniality when our views are challenged, though age tends to bring a degree of relaxation.

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I mean, come on. Let's grow up. It's not just you, though.


Pointing out youth or youthful behaviour as a negative will bite you on the backside when you're regretting the things you can no longer do, further down the line.

Enjoy life. Be childish. Make mistakes. Just try to be decent while you're about it, including respecting that everyone has their own definition of 'maturity'. By demanding everyone hold firm to your version of maturity, you're no better than someone claiming an absolute truth - by your own standards you're a hypocrite, by mine you're just sharpening your claws.

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Autism was created because god (assuming a god exists) decided that humans needed technology and science.


This was a more proper post. Staying on the topic at hand rather than going into a tangent that's been "debated" to death; regardless of the poster's belief.


A tangent such as what the correct way to respond to a forum thread is? I'm afraid that the world isn't just going to fall into line and react to statements that make strong claims which include assumptions that are not commonly held views with blind acceptance.

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God doesn't exist, dipshit :nerdy:
And obviously, the example of what not to do. Complete with personal insults and everything! Just add people.


Did you recently apply for a position as a Mod?

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(Goes over to corner and has a hissy-fit that Aspies are just as misunderstanding and judgmental as Neurotypicals)


Everybody is judgmental and everyone is capable of misunderstanding. Why would you have believed otherwise?



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09 Nov 2010, 10:23 pm

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The only fundamentalists on this thread are the atheists. Wow. :(

I'm tired of those with religious ideas projecting their own traits onto atheists.



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10 Nov 2010, 4:44 am

Ah, the famous WP 'strident' atheists. Yeah, they are hardcore.


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10 Nov 2010, 8:35 am

dalurker wrote:
tooty wrote:
The only fundamentalists on this thread are the atheists. Wow. :(

I'm tired of those with religious ideas projecting their own traits onto atheists.


The projecting goes both ways, so don't just blame those with religious ideas. Non-theists can get just as bad, and from what Ive witnessed on numerous forums, even worse.

The religious should stop their proselytizing and villainizing those who don't believe. Those who don't believe should just let believers f*****g believe as long as they themselves as a person aren't forcing their beliefs.

Seriously, both theists and atheists get way out of line. The only groups I have noticed throughout the internet that really don't are Agnostics, Buddhists (really though its more of a philosophy than anything), Unitarians, and neopagans. People on both sides need to grow the hell up and not be a douchebag to those who don't follow their opinions/beliefs/etc


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10 Nov 2010, 9:16 am

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Ah, the famous WP 'strident' atheists. Yeah, they are hardcore.


LOL. I've run into some strident atheists. I don't see it too much on WP. A little intensity sometimes. But nothing close to what you find at Rational Response Squad.



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10 Nov 2010, 9:29 am

Dnuos wrote:
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I do love how this turned into a religious semi flame war.
Oh wow. Are you kidding me? You make the second thread in the post starting the ever-generic, ever-present "religion vs. atheism" conflict in the thread, and you think you have the right to now step back and believe you didn't start it?

For f**** sake, your post was almost irrelevant to the topic post. This topic is about theorizing what a hypothetical God would do. Which had nothing to do with existence of a God. You could basically be calling the thread creator

I do love how (some) Atheists apply their thought process the same as (some) Christians do: "(Ignores topic at hand) I have the absolute truth. Allow me to state it; I will now criticize something about you or your beliefs. Oh, now I'm offended that you defended yourself and I'm going to call you an arrogant idiot for it."

I mean, come on. Let's grow up. It's not just you, though.

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Autism was created because god (assuming a god exists) decided that humans needed technology and science.
This was a more proper post. Staying on the topic at hand rather than going into a tangent that's been "debated" to death; regardless of the poster's belief.

Smike wrote:
God doesn't exist, dipshit :nerdy:
And obviously, the example of what not to do. Complete with personal insults and everything! Just add people.


(Goes over to corner and has a hissy-fit that Aspies are just as misunderstanding and judgmental as Neurotypicals)


:lol: If you were a child in the school playground I would pick you for my team mate.



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10 Nov 2010, 11:43 am

I probably overreacted a little bit in retrospect. It's just that these kinds of things are annoying. :/ And they never go anywhere. It's always the same. I know routine is common for Aspies, but... meh.

Not hilarious, it's depressing. Maybe the first few times it's hilarious because of how stupid the argument is, but after a while it just gets old. And it's old. It's been beaten into the ground.

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dalurker wrote:
tooty wrote:
The only fundamentalists on this thread are the atheists. Wow. :(

I'm tired of those with religious ideas projecting their own traits onto atheists.


The projecting goes both ways, so don't just blame those with religious ideas. Non-theists can get just as bad, and from what Ive witnessed on numerous forums, even worse.

The religious should stop their proselytizing and villainizing those who don't believe. Those who don't believe should just let believers f***ing believe as long as they themselves as a person aren't forcing their beliefs.

Seriously, both theists and atheists get way out of line. The only groups I have noticed throughout the internet that really don't are Agnostics, Buddhists (really though its more of a philosophy than anything), Unitarians, and neopagans. People on both sides need to grow the hell up and not be a douchebag to those who don't follow their opinions/beliefs/etc
This is exactly what I'm trying to say. It seems nearly impossible for anyone with a single firm belief to say anything without causing a scene.

I can understand the motives behind any anger from atheists - Christians don't have the cleanest slate, as goes for some other religions. Prime example, The Crusades. But speak to any Christian nowadays, and you'll either get a response of "The cru-whats?" or "I wouldn't have done something like that". For various reasons, Atheists see Christians as not only "wrong" in a logical sense, but wrong in a moral sense.

Vice versa as well; many people raised as Christians are taught that Atheists are wrong morally. There are also occasions where the Christian has done nothing to cause a fight - the Atheist starts it because of their assumptions - and now the Christian believes that Atheists are also morally wrong, not because of their teachings as much, but because they generalize Atheists to all appear aggressive. They have the motivation, but it's not usually clearly stated; Thus, Christians view Atheists as "against them" from the get-go and well, yeah. For various reasons, the same applies.

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