Oh, there is nothing wrong with you.

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The simpler an idea is, the longer it takes you to think of it.

True true...tis weird how the world works huh

People just don't expect an easy answer for anything, so they usually skip everything that's easy and try to find some really complex answer to all their problems.

Everyone has something wrong with them tis part of being human

Too right, many people in my life didn't believe me, but i stuck with my convictions, pursued what I know, and proved it to them in every way I know how, if still they fail to see what I am may they just stay out of my way

Only my sister and my best friend believe I have AS.

My mom accepted it, but she doesn't really understand what AS implies, and sometimes I have problems with her because of our different ways of thinking.

My dad has ADHD, and he doesnt accept it, also he thinks my problem is adolescence. He knows I am different of other people, but he can't see the true situation.

I started reading the book, I'm on page 151. I really like it, it's very intersting. Thanks for telling me about it.

Also on the theme of 'oh there is nothing wrong with you' I've got a meeting with a teacher at college tomorrow. She said there are tests that she has to predict whether I have aspergers or not (not a proper diagnosis but if she thinks I have it she will help me get a diagnosis). I'm really nervous, I dont know what she is going to do and just hope she doesn't treat me like 'oh there is nothing wrong with you'. Sometimes I have a hard time explaining how I feel and I just have the feeling that she wont believe me.

Page 151, eh? *whips out book to see where in the story that is* Oh, right, that part! Yeah, that was one of my favourite parts to read the first time around, but I found that when I started reading the book for a second time, I kept putting the book down because I wasn't enjoying it, it was really weird.



I can understand where you're coming from. It's a bit like trying to tell a psychiatrist that you're not insane. You just have to trust them. It's times like these that you wish you had a Ponit-of-view gun . This also depends on the point of veiw and opinion of the person testing you. I would try and say it in a way that yes, there something up, but it's not neccesarily wrong. This could be of NO help from me, however, as I have no idea how to express that. But if the teacher did come up with the idea, she's obviously concerned about it. Not concerned as in 'Oh, gosh, that's horrible!' but more concerned as in 'Oh, that explains it'. I hope this helps.

Oh, and I like your sig. I love that movie!

yeah, i'm not too sure about the diagnosis on my behalf/ or from the standpoint of a professional. I'm aware of my oddities and peculiarities regarding repetition and behavioral "problems". On the surface I appear to function quite "normal". I'm taking in to account my years of interaction with people, placing myself in social situations that otherwise might not be deemed as healthy or useful. I have been described as being "weird" or "distant" by those who know me well. My family members assume that I am "normal" despite what evidence I have provided for them in the past. Doctors have diagnosed me as having bi-polarism, depression, anxiety, and possible adhd. no one in my immediate family admits to me having any problems, well, at least like this. But I have noticed that people "friends" do. Well, I suppose these "friends" would be considered as NT. from what I have read on this site, they seem to act that way, and they seem to find me "interesting" or "strange". In fact, that was always what category I fell under. I see a lot of myself in my father. He perhaps has Aspergers, either that or he has shizophrenia. I can't tell. He is highly intelligent but definatly eccentric and unusual in his manner of dress and conduct. My "friends" always treated me differently. I never felt that any of them really understood me, or even cared enough too. When I was younger, I kept journals. I re-read these journals several years back, and saw that my "friends" were actually not friendly at all. I (despite my hopeful efforts to think otherwise) always had a good idea where my "friendships" were going, and what these people were "up to". I'm also paranoid by nature. I wonder if this is a common "aspie" trait, or if it is just a personal, individual problem. I am inclined to find out what is "wrong" with me. I have always felt different. Even if I must live in the NT world, and function accordingly, I want some understanding of why, and how this condition has been swept under the rug for so long. I read a post from, another forum regarding the differences of childhood diagnosis and adult diagnosis. (perhaps it was this forum) the reaction I had was pretty strong because it seems to me that if a child has autism/aspergers its cute, endearing, to be concerned about, helped, what have you. but if an adult discovers that they have it (undiagnosed from earlier years) then it's too bad, tough luck. see you wouldn't want to be you. something like that. It almost seems like the adult aspie/autie poplulation has been mental slaves to the world of NTs for so long. Prescribed to thier modes of thinking, thier way of playing the game...etc. I apologize if this makes little to no sense. If anything, this diagnosis/condition, if handled properly, used correctly,could prove itself to be a useful tool, if known what to do with. Another question I present is, "why" must aspergers/autie people feel the need to be like NT's? Why can't these NT's be more like * us (soto speak). My frustration lies in the belief that somehow, someway this community appears to have been "lied" to, in such a devastating way that the damage done is almost irrevocable. I think my major concern for this, and other communities alike, is, where will these insights take us? I think that if there were enough attention givin to this then there could be more strength with numbers. Thoughts float and they are powerful. The mind is a tool that can be used effectively if used correctly. But what is correctly. This world is mad. The media is mad. The industry is mad. Logic cannot be the only answer. Divergent thinking could readily make change possible. I take a closer step to my truth/untruth one day at a time. I suppose that is the best way I could describe my perception of thinking like an NT. NT's from what I've learned, do not live in a "normal" world. Thier world is a complex game of rules and regulations. The layers of reality are relative to what they are willing to share/spend. If anyone has seen the "matrix" then to some degree does it explain my theories. I see this condition, and the diagnosis of it, as being a debilitating thing. If you think it will enlighten you by knowing you have it, so be it. But whenever I think of the word "condition" it is closely followed by restriction, and limitations. Communication is the most difficult thing to face when working in the NT world. NT's are interested in appearances, role playing, and status seeking. The levels of difficulty only grow deeper the more involved you become once "accepted" into this world. An asperger/autie person may be able to "appear" as an NT, but for how long, how far before thier "problems" start arising? I would be curious to see what would happen if "aspie/auties" banned together and proclaimed thier frustrations of living in an NT world. in some ways though, i think it is almost more embarrassing to draw attention to this condition. It fuels the burning fire of discouragement/rejection from within. I've read somewhere that aspie/autie people don't understand social rules (this I believe is true) but if these rules are unwritten or not spoken/explained how would one come about knowing such things.

In my view. The reality that is in front of you does not exist, and your best bet in life is to work hard, try and be a decent human being, and avoid conflict. find things that interest you and let them entertain you, and never allow yourself to be controlled by your fear. people lie. that's thier job, deal with it. I say this partly because i'm a liar, and partly because i'm a truth-seeker. It's contradictory, then again so is this world. to "make sense" of a persons brain is almost nonsense. I want to believe in medicine, and all the rules and names that are prescribed to conditions etc. The world is full of NT's. they will always have an advantage over you. complaining can't change it. i know this, i've done it my whole life. now as i've overcome personal difficulties before, it's just hard work. but my advantage is my actual appreciation of personal growth, that most nt's will never find that.

my school doesn't want to think i have asperger's

my parents know i have aspergers but they don't seem to do much about it

you said your parents know about this condition, but they don't want to do anything about it? why doesn't your school want to think that you have aspergers? how old are you?

Ask someone, a professional, what you can do to go about treating yourself and helping yourself. start early. my advice is to find out as much as you can now to deflect any negetive attention later.

The only thing society wants to DO FOR people with AS id make them more NT.In many ways,I feel lucky that I asnt given a DX when I was a kid and couldnt make my own choices.ABA therapy for 8 hours instead of reading or walking in the woods looking for my rocks...no thanks.This "condition" isnt a curse its simply a different way of experiencing the world...its societies reaction that is the "curse".
The DX it self isnt any thing more then an "explaination" for why I experience things different then the "majority.I always knew I did...now I know the name someone gave it and that I am not the only one.Thats more comfort then I had before I heard the word.

Now that I dont think my difference is a mental illness that I have had no luck "talking" my way out of,I can get on with what I have always done when faced with chalenges.Educate myself about it and learn what other people do/have done to function at their full potential.I dont want to be "normal"..I have seen what "normal" people do to each other,animals and the planet.I think there are a lot more people
in this world who think it is "dysfunctional" and they arent all "aspie".

I know from just talking to Mik that he is about 14 or 15 (sorry, I can't be bothered to go check the topic! ). He also lives in Hawaii, so that may contribute to the amount of professionals he can actually see, as well as how good they are.



In many ways I agree with you krex, they do want us to be more NT. I've been fortunate enough to have had a group of friends during Primary school years who wanted me to be more NT, but fortunately they had the common sense that most other NT's lack to see that without my Aspie traits, I just wouldn't be the same, so instead of teaching me it like "These are the rules, and there's no other way", it was more like "These are the guidelines". If those friends hadn't taught me those 'guidlines', I would not currently know how to pick up sarcasm, walk with acceptable movement, come up with and intepret metaphors and small talk (to a certain degree), and a whole range of other stuff. But I also know that maybe, if they hadn't done that, I may be more 'me' than I already am. I don't mind or care now, I'm happy the way I am. I have still retained my Aspie traits, though. I have switching obsessions, have a bit of trouble making eye contact and get uneasy around crowds of people compacted into a small space, among other things.

I wasn't stating anything directly negative about aspie/autism characteristics in and of themselves. I just wanted to make clear mention of that first. I myself, am uncertain as to whether I am or not within the spectrum. I think that if I were diagnosed as being such, it wouldn't really matter so much at this point. I am already old enough to take care of myself, and no doctor will be able to convince me that I have such and such a condition, take meds etc. I've tired that out long ago. The most I can do at this point is educate myself about this condition, and to make note of my behavioural problems and try and change them. I've struggled with social acceptance my whole life. I have known a lot of people socially, but it was more for function then deep connection. A string of aquaintances from my personal timeline. My main concern, as described in a previous post, is my ability to function well in Normal society. I don't think it should be necessary for me to walk around with a red flag or button stating my "condition". yes, i want to "fit in" with society. I want to be normal. I want to have access to the same things that other people have access to. And to do so w/out discrimination, publicly or privately. If I need to put more time into my appearance before I leave the house for the day, so be it. If I need to spend more time at work to get that so and so just right, i'll do it. In my life, I've always been drivin to prove my worth, and if it requires more energy and effort to achieve what I want to, even if it means, pretending to "fit into normal functional society" then i must do it. After feeling a lifetime of rejection, there is nothing more in this world that I want to have than be loved and to be normal. but the reality is that no one is normal, but there are set standards which are agreed to be attractive or appealing to all. hence the complex social system as it is. NT's will stop at nothing to continue prescribing to thier own impenetrable myths. why can't we?

I dunno, I have no idea what you mean by impenetrable myths!

I've had my mother tell me that it's "all in my mind"... until I flooded her with articles about it.