A real partial cure for as and autism

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21 Oct 2006, 9:04 pm

A real partial cure for as and autism. its safe non toxic and cheap. the reason for autism is that certain parts of the brain develope localy dense but dont crosslink regionally.

its called acetly-l-carnitne. it was orignally given to alzheimers and parkisons patients. what it does
is cause the brains latent stem cells to rev up and form new connections and reroute around damaged areas. If an aspie or autie takes
thier brain will cross link across those areas which have poor communication. I have done it myself
each time i took it i got this massive headache, but afterwords i was thinking faster clearer than ever have been. It also made me left handed for about two weeks wich regressed back into being abidextrous.

Its about 10 bucks otc in a pharamacy. just in case any one is interested



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21 Oct 2006, 9:07 pm

Why would it cause a headache?



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21 Oct 2006, 9:19 pm

I imagine rapid brain growth will be interprited as a headache



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21 Oct 2006, 9:52 pm

Yeah Acetyl-L-Carnitine is very expensive. It must still be under patent protection?

It should be taken with Alpha-lipoic acid. Someone has a patent on the combo
of the two.

Its reported to increase vivid dreams. I can confirm that. No question it has atleast
a mild effect on the mind but your not going to treat ASD with it. I think RDOS
mentions how man used to eat alot more meat and thus consumed much larger amounts
of l-carnitine (natural amino acid) so its theorized that ASD decended from these heavy
meat eaters and that high levels of l-carnitine reduce problems for modern man with
ASD.



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21 Oct 2006, 9:56 pm

This is good news. I have anencephaly, so my brain has plenty of room for expansion.

By the way, if you don't want to be grossed out, do look for any pictures of anencephaly sufferers.


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21 Oct 2006, 10:08 pm

I read up over at wikipedia. They say that taking it in oral pill form isn't optimal. They didn't say that eating the foods high in l-Carnitine is effective, but I would guess it couldn't hurt.
Kind of just goes back to eating the old "meat and potatoes" with greens and other miscellaneous veggies is the best diet.



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22 Oct 2006, 1:11 am

I prefer to get my medical advice from someone who can spell, use apostrophes correctly, and knows the difference between upper and lower case.

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22 Oct 2006, 3:41 am

Personally, I'd want to stay Aspie. It could be handy for things such as week-long buisness meetings, though.



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22 Oct 2006, 7:26 am

Drugs? Cures? No thanks.


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22 Oct 2006, 9:09 am

A cure you meen I could be going to Church, watching foot ball matches and cussing drivers on the road in less the two weeks.

Bring it on but :( I have not been formally dignosed with AS, so my GP is not going to give me any pilll anyway. How am I going to get a hold of some :twisted: I will get them though.

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22 Oct 2006, 9:56 am

They sell them in Halland and Barratts. I am going to swallow enough tablets to make my blood turn pink.



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22 Oct 2006, 10:05 am

Given the poorer connectivity of the autistic's brain, yes, it will improve those functions which require a great deal of cooperation from various brain regions to be carried out (i.e., Executive Functioning, language, social skills, etc.); HOWEVER, with the same token, it will likely also decline the functioning levels of any talents or skills the person has, as these are almost always based on local connections and short-distance, low-energy neural communications.

Unfortunately with the human brain, it's one or the other. Greater long-distance neural communicative networks (EDF, language, social skills), or greater short-distance neural communicative networks (obsessions, splinter skills, talents, etc.).

It's your choice, but the brain does not work both ways. That is the limitation of neuronal matter.

I, personally, am staying as I am.


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22 Oct 2006, 12:22 pm

Well, I have to tell you if it works, it will be strange. I think I will always be more Aspie then NT. I have bought the pills and I have taken double the dose to speed things up a little.



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22 Oct 2006, 12:36 pm

Sophist wrote:
Given the poorer connectivity of the autistic's brain, yes, it will improve those functions which require a great deal of cooperation from various brain regions to be carried out (i.e., Executive Functioning, language, social skills, etc.); HOWEVER, with the same token, it will likely also decline the functioning levels of any talents or skills the person has, as these are almost always based on local connections and short-distance, low-energy neural communications.

Unfortunately with the human brain, it's one or the other. Greater long-distance neural communicative networks (EDF, language, social skills), or greater short-distance neural communicative networks (obsessions, splinter skills, talents, etc.).

It's your choice, but the brain does not work both ways. That is the limitation of neuronal matter.

I, personally, am staying as I am.


Agreed totally. If it comes to it, we have a choice between being Aspie or NT. We can't have both, it's one or the other. Can we honestly say we'd like to live in a world where there were/are fewer computer geniuses, inventors etc? Are we so embarrassed of being different that we have to blend in to the accepted 'normal?' I see why some people might want to take drugs to lessen the effect of certain problems associated with AS, but do we really want to throw everything out of the window, and will we be any happier for it? No way am I saying living with AS is easy, but we got given it for some reason or another.

Phew. Had to get that out of my system.


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22 Oct 2006, 1:10 pm

Aspie_Chav wrote:
Well, I have to tell you if it works, it will be strange. I think I will always be more Aspie then NT. I have bought the pills and I have taken double the dose to speed things up a little.


Biochemistry does not necessarily work like mathematics. "Twice as much" does not necessarily equal "twice as fast" or "twice as well". And even supplements can have their negative side effects.

I'd recommend taking the dose as suggested by the manufacturer.


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22 Oct 2006, 1:16 pm

I know what the effect of taking just double the amount of anti-depressants can do. Sure, you act happy enough, but you also act partly drunk-like and open up, and things you talk about become more private. And the worst of it is, when you wake up after it, you have basically 'lost yourself' and have no idea where you are and what day it is, and you feel as if you had a hangover. So yeah, double sucks.