Why Do So Many Desire An Aspergers Diagnosis?

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02 Apr 2011, 10:59 pm

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I want a diagnosis because I am already autistic, and I will likely need this information recorded for access to services.

According to another thread you posted in you said you weren't diagnosed by a professional as autistic yet. And your motives are now clear. You want to be diagnosed so you can gain assess to services. I suspect this is the motive for many.



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02 Apr 2011, 11:01 pm

It's a strong possibility that I'm an aspie, though I'm undiagnosed. If it ever comes up in conversation, I just remind people that it's not "official."

I have good reason not to get a diagnosis. Someone who I thought was my friend called Child Protective Services on me and my wife, particularly pointing out that I have AS. Meeting the social workers came as a surprise and a shock, but I did my best to keep my cool. When they asked if I'd ever been diagnosed, I told them a truthful "no." It turns out in some places a diagnosis of AS means you are automatically considered a danger to your children. I've heard some horror stories from the UK, and apparently it's not quite as bad a problem here. What's frightening is the prospect that admitting to having AS or had I gotten a diagnosis would have lent credence to what was reported about us, even though what was reported is untrue. There is no way I'll ever be able to get a diagnosis or any help.

FYI: The reasons DHS was called were completely fabricated. This was a person who was deeply disturbed, in need of medication, and held a personal grudge against my wife. We were able to demonstrate that we care for our kids by seeking medical attention when needed, prescription medications, and so forth. Our little boy suffered from chronic ear infections which we tried to fix with tubes, which meant his ears were draining fluid, we had to keep cotton in his ears, and had to work hard to keep his ears and face clean because of the fluid and bacteria, which would also cause acne-like breakouts. This mentally unstable person used this as an opportunity to get my wife thrown out of church (of all things), using my child's ears as an excuse to call social workers in order to intimidate us. What is truly sad is how often it is truly wonderful parents who just happen to not be that well-educated or bright get their kids taken away from them because of someone who harbors such ill will towards them.

For the sake of my family, I cannot get a diagnosis. But that doesn't mean I can't seek support elsewhere, such as this website in which we may not all be "official," but we have common bonds. It's entirely possible that I DON'T have AS, but I know that something is wrong with me because of the social difficulties, obsessive tendencies, hyperfocus, and so forth. This is a great place for anyone who feels they were born on the "wrong planet." Even the name describes exactly what I've felt for all my life. There's nothing wrong with being diagnosed.

And, I'm no "waspie." I don't desire to have the problems I have, and I don't desire a label that gives me an excuse for my behavior and social shortcomings. This is not "cool," and I don't respect waspies much at all. Most of the time my life is pure torture, with my wife being my only true adult friend. Doesn't matter if I'm NOT an aspie should that be the case. But there is SOMETHING different about me, and a forum that is open to other "different" people is a source of comfort and safe, generally non-threatening human interaction.



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02 Apr 2011, 11:02 pm

becuase people need servies? why would some one want servies that do not help them. this does not make sence. you are not making sence.



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02 Apr 2011, 11:02 pm

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Actually, I don't desire an Asperger's Diagnosis (it's one of the main reasons why I haven't gone - and don't intend to - to a doctor yet). The damn thing is incurable and has no advantages at all. Unfortunately, it seems to be the best way to explain how my mind works.


You are not the kind of person I'm talking about if you clearly don't want to have aspergers. But if you think you might have it you should get checked by a professional. If you don't have it that is good news. If you do at least it will be documented for future reference in the event you need help or services.



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02 Apr 2011, 11:04 pm

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It's easier for them to get services.


This.
Also, Asperger's is better than "lazy, clumsy idiot".


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02 Apr 2011, 11:05 pm

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becuase people need servies? why would some one want servies that do not help them. this does not make sence. you are not making sence.

It makes perfect sense. This individual probably wants special treatment or possibly even mental disability checks so they don't have to work. It is quite obvious at this point that they are so dead set on getting diagnosed because they can get services and special accommodations.



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02 Apr 2011, 11:07 pm

I didn't know what Asperger's was until about 3.5 weeks ago. The first time I read a list of the "symptoms" I knew that this was the reason I spent the last 30 years feeling different from my peers. Since then, I have read 7 books about Asperger's, countless websites and studies, and have been pretty much addicted to these forums. So far, the only person I have told has been my mother and as she read about Asperger's she broke into tears because she has been so pained knowing that her son has been suffering and not knowing why for so long. Trust me, nobody (except maybe a few very sick people) wants to be autistic. I haven't decided if I will get an official diagnosis or not.

Whether or not I go down that path, I KNOW I am an Aspie for the same reason you know you are not. I am, of course, assuming that you have never been diagnosed as neurotypical?



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02 Apr 2011, 11:09 pm

i do not know any person who would want that. I live in care. I do not have a job. What I want is to not live in care and to have a job. I do not have freedom like a lot of people. I do not belive any one wants that. But some people can not survie. if they need them they shoudl have them. even if diagnosed late they might need them.



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02 Apr 2011, 11:10 pm

NotCrazy wrote:
Louise8 wrote:
becuase people need servies? why would some one want servies that do not help them. this does not make sence. you are not making sence.

It makes perfect sense. This individual probably wants special treatment or possibly even mental disability checks so they don't have to work. It is quite obvious at this point that they are so dead set on getting diagnosed because they can get services and special accommodations.


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02 Apr 2011, 11:12 pm

NotCrazy wrote:
Louise8 wrote:
becuase people need servies? why would some one want servies that do not help them. this does not make sence. you are not making sence.

It makes perfect sense. This individual probably wants special treatment or possibly even mental disability checks so they don't have to work. It is quite obvious at this point that they are so dead set on getting diagnosed because they can get services and special accommodations.

In some states, you can't qualify for much even with a diagnosis. If you are high functioning and can do well on tests, there's not a lot you can qualify for.



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02 Apr 2011, 11:26 pm

NotCrazy wrote:
Verdandi wrote:
I want a diagnosis because I am already autistic, and I will likely need this information recorded for access to services.

According to another thread you posted in you said you weren't diagnosed by a professional as autistic yet. And your motives are now clear. You want to be diagnosed so you can gain assess to services. I suspect this is the motive for many.


I have to ask: So what? Have you considered the possibility we need those services?



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02 Apr 2011, 11:30 pm

An Asperger's diagnosis is not an automatic disability check. In fact, many Aspies are too high functioning to qualify.

SSA Mental Impairment Definitions - click

Bottom of the page - section 12.10 Autism...

After their own doctor's dx then they need to see the SSA's specialists to determine if they fit the criteria. It isn't the cake walk you make it sound like... and who wants to be forced to live at the poverty level if they don't have too? SSI is barely enough to live on.



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02 Apr 2011, 11:30 pm

for me getting diagnosed means i finally get to know why am i so different from everybody
because i started to think maybe i'm a sociopath or just crazy
unfortunately i can't get diagnosed, so i'm glad there's an online test :)

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02 Apr 2011, 11:32 pm

I understand you are a troll, but I will feed you for a second longer so that if anyone else reads this they need not be confused...

I happened across a video talking about aspergers and didnt realize that adults with aspergers are different then children. My son is in the process of being dxed as pervasive developmental delay, proabbly aspergers. When the video came up with an adults perspective on having it, my husband and my world came to a screeching halt. We were not looking for anything wrong with him. Now, we have always knwn something was different, weird, odd, but didnt know it had a name. Neither of us looked into this stuff before. But we realized there was a name for it. For this thing that has hindered his relationships and life and work and day to day happenings. Every description on this forum is hm with the exception of the highly sensitve persons symptoms (he is not light or sound sensitive, he has severe texture issues with food and being hugged, touched by anyone but me). It all made sense. So then we took tests, some of which are used in diagnosing aspergers on a professional level. They are not facebook quizzes, they are very accurate and a good starting place. My husband took 4 and failed, or passed, then all for having aspergers. It just makes sense. This is something that has hindered his life as long as he remembers. He feels like a child trapped in an adults body. He is random and considered weird and odd. He doesn cry when his mother dies and doesnt show he cares when people tell him things. I know he does care, he can tell me he cares, but he doesnt know how to show it. He cant read between the lines and has no common sense. He is clumsy and walks weird. I know it all sounds bad listed out, but really he is loving and to me he is attractive and handsome and sweet and loving and kind.



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02 Apr 2011, 11:33 pm

draelynn wrote:
An Asperger's diagnosis is not an automatic disability check. In fact, many Aspies are too high functioning to qualify.

SSA Mental Impairment Definitions - click

Bottom of the page - section 12.10 Autism...

After their own doctor's dx then they need to see the SSA's specialists to determine if they fit the criteria. It isn't the cake walk you make it sound like... and who wants to be forced to live at the poverty level if they don't have too? SSI is barely enough to live on.


I certainly don't. I do need the medical care and the financial assistance, however.

I am hoping once I can stop worrying about being able to pay for things I need, that I can find a way to make money on my own again. But, eh, obviously everyone who goes on the dole is in it for a free ride. Living at 75% of the poverty line is clearly the lap of luxury. :roll: