POLL!! ! Asperger's and god!! !!

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Yes, society works! not perfectly but it works
oh yeah, just like I have to work on not patronizing people, you need to work on not being rude Both things are wrong, difference is I acknowledge that and try to control myself. Wont happen again

Wow, this got ugly

Lecturing people is polite?

Freedom of speech does not imply "attack", and I wasn't referring to conflicts between countries.. I was talking about conflicts between people.. They do occur when people do not seem to understand the need for respect

Dawkins has said a number of times he isn't sure, he just doubt it's, he more focused on showing that we are simply better off not believing. But you get this endless parade of peolle claiming he's actually sure and he;s a zealot and dogmatic, and he;s said himself "i really don't know" in a lot of his books he brings it up, it's absurd that people bring this up to insult him.

There's this cottage industry of showing how atheism is actually a belief system, or a religion itself, and they believe in non believe and such, I live my life assuming theres no god and I don't think about the question often anymore since it doesn't affect me anymore, I lack a belief in something and I don't find many things more patronising then when the agnostic (and it's always the self professed "only sane group" the agnostic atheists/theists) claims I believe there's no God, it's so childish to me.

I don't believe in anything, zilch, nadda, so please don't tell me I do.

No it is not polite! as I said, wont happen again!

This is a interesting thought, can be this be applied to other groups like the Futurist movement in the early 20th century or any other artistic movement in history? The Futurists believed in the destruction of the past, practiced their beliefs through art practice (painting, scuplture, theatre etc) and had a manifesto to tell the public about mentioned beliefs. Just a random interesting thought, art as a religion hahaha

There is certainly a difference between having a good discussion on religious or political beliefs, and attacking them. I think we should all try to be respectful in how we approach other's beliefs, even if we believe they are dead wrong. I know this is something that aspies struggle with. I'm on a Christian forum where we discuss different christian things and I know when I was younger I out my foot in my mouth and made people mad more times than I can count. I still do sometimes.

You say they should be debated just like politics and other things, so I will use a political example instead of a religious one.

If you wish to change people's minds on things, you need to approach things with tact. Otherwise you are just solidifying their position. There is a difference between;
"Oh my gosh! Obama is such an IDIOT!! His economic policies are bull sh** and don't get me started on so called "health care reform." He is sending America to h***! ! Everyone who voted for him had to be a MORON!! I can't believe how STUPID the American people had to be to elect that dumbo."
And
"Obama is certainly not my favorite president. I disagree with his economic policies and health care reform and think that they may have detrimental effects on America's future. I think that the majority of America was mislead by his charisma when they voted him into office."

Note: This example is NOT meant to be a political statement, I am just using Obama because he is the current president.

The reply to the first example will most likely be along the lines of "Whatever! You are a right wing fascist! What do you do all day? Listen to that IDIOT Rush Limbaugh?"
While the second example may get an intelligible reply, if the person on the other end is also willing to enter the debate, such as: "There may have been some bumps in the road, but I think that Obama is doing a wonderful job getting us out of this depression. The economy is coming back, and those poor people who didn't have health care are now saved from dying a painful and preventable death. Why do you think his economic policies are so bad?"

And thus, we may actually get somewhere in a discussion instead of just yelling at eachother and getting nothing accomplished except riling the other person up.

Meh.

Looks like PPR in here now. Somebody should clean up this mess.

*wanders off.

What is PPR you all speak of?

http://www.wrongplanet.net/forum20.html

Stands for politics, philosophy, and religion.

Disclaimer: enter at your own risk. Debates can get heated at times.

I've disallowed myself from entering the PPR section, I'm a communist utiltiarian atheist, I don't need more stress

LOL.

I am an atypical theist, libertarian ideologically, but pragmatic in actual practice (libertarianism presumes a level of personal responsibility that seems impossible to achieve on large scale). I too avoid the stress of PPR.

Just posting to note something rather important:

"Aspergers" or "NT" is a false dichotomy. There are a lot of other NNT people out there aside from Aspies.

Well you would be a very strange christian indeed if you did not believe in god

I'm an atheist. I simply can't accept the idea of a supernatural being. It's not logical.