Every Aspie is a math/techo genius

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13 Apr 2011, 9:46 am

wavefreak58 wrote:

That said, it is still HUGE, because I cannot seem to determine any path through the labyrinthine morass of corporate life. 1+1= whatever the boss says and that doesn't work for me.

Yep, social dynamics intrinsic to the corporate hierarchy pervades just about every place of employment, no matter how technical the job. So any type of social deficits will impact ones employment (Including communication deficits).

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13 Apr 2011, 10:16 am

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I am SICK of the idea that ALL Aspies are these math/techno savants! I have dyscalculia (dyslexia's sister). I CAN'T do numbers, but I was reading Shakespeare in elementary school, and some Aspie's have average IQ's. We're not all math/techno super geniuses. Grrrrrrr. Sorry, but I keep seeing this implication (or worse, this stereotype stated as fact) everywhere that all of us are math/techno geniuses, so I felt like ranting for a second.

Albert Einstein, possibly the most famous man with aspergers ever, SUCKED at math! So I'm not sure why people associate great math skill with AS.

My IQ is above average and my math skills are HORRID!

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13 Apr 2011, 10:22 am

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JustEmbers wrote:

First, the autistic status of Einstein is nothing but speculation.

Second, he did NOT suck at math. This is a popular myth, but not at all true.

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Legend has it that Einstein was a poor student who flunked out of school, but this was not the case. He excelled at math and science, though he often got only mediocre grades in other classes.

found at:
http://www.amnh.org/learn/pd/physical_science/profiles/aeinstein.html

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13 Apr 2011, 11:38 am

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Well...it just seems that the math/science Aspies have a much easier time getting a decent job than those of us who you are liberal arts/social science types.

This is definitely true, meaning finding a job in their field. I guess it's much easier to prove your skills if they are technical. I get asked all the time by people to fix their computer, stereo, toaster, etc. I sometimes make money on the deal, but because of my lacking social skills, usually not. I'm hoping to one day land an electronic engineering job when I get my BS.

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13 Apr 2011, 11:41 am

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I found this on a website:

Nonverbal learning disorder is a learning disorder that has many traits commonly associated with Asperger's syndrome. Like those with Asperger's syndrome, children with nonverbal learning disorder usually start to talk around 2 years of age (the age at which speech normally develops). They often have excellent memorization skills needed for reading and spelling. Also, they share a desire to form relationships but often fail because of poor social skills.

But these conditions are not the same. Children with nonverbal learning disorder have some distinguishing characteristics. A hallmark trait of the disorder is difficulty learning from the visual environment. Although they are poor visual learners, children with nonverbal learning disorder often excel at remembering information they hear. Children with Asperger's syndrome are also good at remembering information they hear.

Children with nonverbal learning disorder often have difficulty with math, because math is often explained in a visual context and these children lack nonverbal reasoning skills.

While many people with Asperger's syndrome have nonverbal learning disorder, not all do. Likewise, many people with nonverbal learning disorder do not have Asperger's syndrome. Although these disorders are separate, they both involve similar differences in processing information and those affected may benefit from the same types of treatment

Thanks for posting that, it shows that not all of us DO have great math skills. I am, however, very good with visual learning (I can actually "see" a page I've read the night before while completing an essay test, and can therefore make direct, and exact quotes from relevant sources, and can accurately, and precisely, site the source... because I can see it) as long as there are no numeric formulas. The numbers, the calculations, are what get me. I can't retain what I've learned in this one area. I can do basic math, but I can't do any math in my head. Before diagnosis of AS (after which I found out about dyscalculia) I spent the previous 3 or so years trying (in secret-- I was ashamed and didn't want anyone to know; I hid flash cards like drugs, terrified that someone would find them) to memorize my addition and times tables. Don't get me wrong, I can do them, I just can't memorize them. I have to use my fingers. Many people with NVLD have dyscalculia but not all, and many, like me, just have dyscalculia. I have an easy time with all other subjects, but maths like pre-algebra/algebra are hell come to life in a class room for me. I also can't budget, can't balance a check book (I only seem like I'm better with money than some with dyscalculia simply because I'm not very materialistic so I'm usually only buying the bare necessities, I like to shop at dollar stores, and I've NEVER had a credit card).

Here is a great paper on Dyscalculia: The Dyscalculia Syndrome

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13 Apr 2011, 11:55 am

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SadAspy wrote:

Well...it just seems that the math/science Aspies have a much easier time getting a decent job than those of us who you are liberal arts/social science types.

True, true. Also, when people with dyscalculia enter university, our choices are severely limited because almost every single degree program has some math (even if it is basic) as a requirement, and I CAN NOT pass those classes without intense assistance... much more than what most universities are willing to give a student. Oh, and I'm actually excellent at science until someone sticks an equation in front of me. I wanted to be a scientist as a child, and was constantly creating my own experiments, but math is a necessary part of a career in science. I can easily (very, very easily) grasp all of the concepts in a subject like physics, for example (in part because I can play videos in my head of what this or that object will do in this or that set of circumstances, like virtual reality, and can therefore quite literally SEE what I'm learning), but at some point there will be an equation and I will not be able to do it.

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13 Apr 2011, 11:58 am

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i guess even aspies have multiple intelligents...

Not sure why you say "even". I would say that our multiple intelligence is much more magnified in both directions than that of NTs. I would even regard that as much more fundamental than the so-called triad of impairments ;-)

Basically, our bright bits are brighter and our dull bits are duller.

yeah i always assume someone with autism/asperger is a math genius and that multiple intelligence only apply to NT, that's why i never suspect of being an aspie, because my math suck :p

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13 Apr 2011, 12:09 pm

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This is what I'm afraid of, I suck at math, but I want to be an engineer. I can grasp math if it's taught to me well, and if I do a lot of problems, but it's still never difficult. I always get jealous of people who find math easy.

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13 Apr 2011, 1:05 pm

I agree with you..... I have always had issues with math and despise it even to this day but I excel in the Humanities.

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13 Apr 2011, 5:32 pm

wavefreak58 wrote:

Legend has it that Einstein was a poor student who flunked out of school, but this was not the case. He excelled at math and science, though he often got only mediocre grades in other classes.

As I heard it, he was reasonably good at maths - physicists have to be - but not the sort of person who delights in the stuff. Working maths, rather than artistic maths, basically.

Heh. Never thought to look up the etymology of mathematics before. Kinda funny - to me, at least - to see its original meaning expresses a more sensible aim - physics, even - but was soon pinned down into the study of the unreal construct we now use it for.

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13 Apr 2011, 6:07 pm

I'm passable at math, but not much of a tech geek (anymore). More of a voguish existentialism student type

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13 Apr 2011, 6:42 pm

@OP. Join the club, man! I have dyscalculia myself.

Technology is a necessary evil, however, as I cannot record music without it.

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13 Apr 2011, 6:46 pm

I barely passed maths and science in school. I was always good at languages. I took some AP foreign language classes... one I got into with very little study. I wish the stereotype were true!! !

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13 Apr 2011, 7:23 pm

I'm also sick of it. I was never any good at math.

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13 Apr 2011, 7:54 pm

there are three types of aspie in this world, one that can count and one that can't

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13 Apr 2011, 8:37 pm

bucephalus wrote:

there are three types of aspie in this world, one that can count and one that can't

Whats the other type?

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