Another proof that I've outgrown my diagnosis.

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ruveyn
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14 Apr 2011, 7:45 pm

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I got a 28. You know, I thought about whether one could ever fully outgrow Asperger's, and I decided that I don't think someone can. The only thing the eye test proves is that you can read facial expressions. It doesn't measure whether you can interpret expressions instinctively or had to learn them another way. There's a bit more to Asperger's than that.

wavefreak: People in real life only have the more subtle expressions from the test anyways. People don't turn their head 45 degrees away from you when they look at you suspiciously.

I know that I have improved a hell lot and I can easily pass off as a NT.


I can do that with my eyes shut now. 40-50 years of practice helps. But I am still an Aspie.

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14 Apr 2011, 7:46 pm

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Due to my hyperactive nature, I've ADHD, and intelligence I used to, and still, make witty comments about people without knowing their, what I call, local meaning(see my signature) and social implications(I will post my ToM rules this year) which would be very insulting. Then people(NTs) will reply in a similar manner and this would get me more trouble. After few years of hard retrospection I first realized what I call local language rules, at the age of 26 and half, and Theory of Mind rules, at the age of 27.
This is my score on face reading:
Your score 28
Total possible score 36
An average score for this test is 26.2, or 21.9 for an adult with asperger's syndrome. Of course I did undergo this test, that may have had a positive effect but still the score is above average.
This is the link http://www.questionwritertracker.com/in ... n=Z4MK3TKB


daspie, due to your continuing obsession with this notion has proven to me that you have not outgrown it. :lol: :P


And the fact you had figured out the NT language wrong. :lol:

I read parts of that other thread to see this.

And what about Nostromos who independently came up with same understanding although not as refined as that of mine? Please see this link. Also how easily I figured out the faux pas in that picture. Those rules should be applied with ToM, which I will post later this year then you will be convinced :).



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14 Apr 2011, 7:48 pm

TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:
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daspie, due to your continuing obsession with this notion has proven to me that you have not outgrown it. :lol: :P


:lmao:

You will know it when I will post my ToM rules then you will do :Imao: to me.



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14 Apr 2011, 8:05 pm

25

I think I've taken versions of this test at least seven times.

I remember the correct answers for many of the questions because of having remembered the correct answers of the ones I've gotten wrong previously.



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14 Apr 2011, 9:40 pm

Dude, you can't outgrow Asperger's. :roll: You can make yourself appear not to have it, and you can train your mind to work more like a NT's, but you'll never completely get rid of it. I don't want to sound harsh, but you're more oblivious than many Aspies, let alone a NT. There's so much to social interaction that you could never make a post outlining all of it. And you think you should be the one to make that post because you've "outgrown Asperger's so much that you could pass as a NT?" Passing as a NT isn't that hard; people aren't on the lookout for mental retardation in someone with advanced linguistic skills. Being the leader of your friends, never having to call people because you're always invited out, fearlessly breaking social rules....that's a bit more difficult.



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14 Apr 2011, 9:41 pm

I scored above average on this test..........I think I got 28 too actually. I took this test a year and a half ago or so and I was so surprised................but with no time limit and nothing else to focus on my problems reading non-verbal social cues suddenly disappear. In real life my whole family will often talk about how someone looked or sounded nervous , upset (my family tends to gossip about other family members when they aren't there) and I will wonder how they could tell.



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14 Apr 2011, 10:39 pm

I got a 25 on the first try. On the first few questions, I was getting them incorrect and thought my score would be really super low. Then, I started enlarging the eyes and that helped. It also helped trying to picture what the mouth was doing. A few times, I couldn't believe the eyes meant what the answer was.
I wonder how accurate the test is? Some of the pictures were kind of blurry. I wonder how many NTs get lower scores? That test seemed really difficult because all you had to go on were a pair of eyes with no mouth or anything, the photos were in black and white and many of the people were looking to the side. Do NTs instinctively know what looking to the side means? I didn't know on most of those, just guessed and some of my guesses were correct while others were not.



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14 Apr 2011, 11:42 pm

@Louise18: I disagree because the test doesn't take into account how you got to the answer. Giving 2 people tests in either
english or math doesn't tell you how good either of them are at it if you don't look at how they got the answers. If one can
do the test unaided and one uses a dictionary or calculator both can have a high score. That doesn't mean both are equally
good at it.

If you give an "NT" and an "AS" the same eyes test and watch how readily they get their answers I'm pretty sure there would
be a pretty noticeable difference even if both scored about the same.



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15 Apr 2011, 2:07 am

aha, 28



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15 Apr 2011, 2:07 am

rabchild wrote:
@Louise18: I disagree because the test doesn't take into account how you got to the answer. Giving 2 people tests in either
english or math doesn't tell you how good either of them are at it if you don't look at how they got the answers. If one can
do the test unaided and one uses a dictionary or calculator both can have a high score. That doesn't mean both are equally
good at it.

If you give an "NT" and an "AS" the same eyes test and watch how readily they get their answers I'm pretty sure there would
be a pretty noticeable difference even if both scored about the same.

It is expected that the respondents do not guess :).



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19 Oct 2011, 6:42 pm

daspie, you really want to be proven right, isn't it?

just letting you know that, that kind of behavior is typical for people with autism. :lol:

so like.... IN YOUR FACE!



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19 Oct 2011, 7:51 pm

I got through this mainly through process of elimination. For a lot of them I narrow it down to two, and I feel that one is right, but then I over think and choose the wrong one. Ehh. It doesn't help that I sometimes have trouble deducing what the difference between some of the emotions that are listed are or exactly what they mean, at least one word I didn't know what it meant at all, and I selected it and got it right as none of the other things listed fit. I got one of them just because it looked almost exactly like the one before it, and even though I got the first one wrong I got the second one right. I really don't see how this skill could help IRL as I find it difficult to look someone in the eye as closely as in the test (just taking the test stressed me out a bit) and I find it a lot easier to deduce their feelings through the rest of their body language (I need to try to imagine the entire faces in these images in order to deduce anything) and the situation they are in (I also sort of thought of a microstory/situation while answering).

I got 26. Somehow.



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20 Oct 2011, 12:57 am

Yah, I got 14. :)
What is really sad was some of these were guesses. Also I noticed that on a few of them 3 of the 4 words were closer in meaning than the other so this helped a little. That was an incredible frustrating test.

And looking through the thread I got a lower score than anyone else--I wonder what that means.
Lower scores are good, just like golf-- right! :)



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20 Oct 2011, 4:39 am

I got 33. My neurotypical brother got 29. I am amused.