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27 Apr 2011, 12:28 pm

Sometimes I have trouble speaking when out in public. It's total trouble communicating to strangers, sometimes it takes me like 3 to 5 seconds to actually be able to tell a cashier what I want. It's like I stall for those 3 to 5 seconds... I'm guessing this is related to autism. It's nothing major but these things add up to a strange pattern of behavior that makes it difficult sometimes. I guess my question is whether this is related to autism... it certainly sounds like a problem someone on the spectrum could have. Hard to tell where it ends and begins sometimes..



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27 Apr 2011, 12:43 pm

I have a very hard time speaking sometimes. There are periods when I stutter. I've slowed my speaking back down to my natural laid back pace and I don't seem to have that problem as often anymore.


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27 Apr 2011, 12:55 pm

I have the same stalling problem when speaking to people...I fill the gap by gesturing with my hand as though I am trying to think of something so that they wait for me to actually say it. Life would be easier if I could either always communicate in written format or in sign language I think lol. I am ok with hand gestures...its one thing I can read and know how to use myself. Probably because I had a mother who 'talked with her hands' so to speak (not in the sense of using sign language but she had a hand gesture for everything lol). So much so people used to ask if she was Italian lol.



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27 Apr 2011, 1:12 pm

Yup. In fact, right now I'm in middle of having lots of problems speaking. I either can't start, or in middle of the sentence I will forget what words I wanted to use. It is annoying as hell!! ! If I slow down and think about what I wanted to say sometimes it gets better, but not all the time. Yesterday I wanted to just quit talking altogether because of it.



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27 Apr 2011, 1:24 pm

CockneyRebel wrote:
I've slowed my speaking back down to my natural laid back pace and I don't seem to have that problem as often anymore.


I kind of have to do the same thing.

I sometimes do the stalling even when it's quiet, but if it's noisy it's more likely occur.



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27 Apr 2011, 1:25 pm

Daina wrote:
Yup. In fact, right now I'm in middle of having lots of problems speaking. I either can't start, or in middle of the sentence I will forget what words I wanted to use. It is annoying as hell!! ! If I slow down and think about what I wanted to say sometimes it gets better, but not all the time. Yesterday I wanted to just quit talking altogether because of it.

I know how that is.

In the case of cashiers and such, I always plan what I'm going to say before I go up to them, so it's less of a problem. If I'm supposed to say something I haven't planned, though, I have a lot of difficulty.



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27 Apr 2011, 1:39 pm

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In the case of cashiers and such, I always plan what I'm going to say before I go up to them, so it's less of a problem. If I'm supposed to say something I haven't planned, though, I have a lot of difficulty.


I do it even when I know what to say. Kind of an awkward stall.

I always talk about the same subjects or I'm generally kind of quiet too. I'd rather not have ASD, it makes life difficult.



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27 Apr 2011, 1:40 pm

Zen wrote:
In the case of cashiers and such, I always plan what I'm going to say before I go up to them, so it's less of a problem. If I'm supposed to say something I haven't planned, though, I have a lot of difficulty.


I agree. I found reading this a bit strange, because long before I figured out I was on the spectrum - heck, before I knew there was a spectrum anyone could be on - I had to work this strategy out by instinct. If I don't go over what I'm going to say in my head first, or if the interaction goes "off script", I usually end up looking like an idiot. :oops:


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27 Apr 2011, 2:02 pm

As long as I am talking about something specific to my task at hand, you can't shut me up.

If I have to talk about something that I haven't had any preparation for, then I can have more trouble. I don't actually stutter, but my rhythm gets choppy and I lose track of what I'm trying to say.

I'm a very verbal autistic now. In school I would say very little.


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27 Apr 2011, 2:37 pm

Yes, but mostly now when I'm either ~ stressed~ or in really deep thought.....anyhow, good topic! And it fits nicely into this forum:

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt73273.html

I'm reading John Elder Robison's latest book, Be Different: Adventures of a Free-Range Aspergian. 5 stars (!), plus Mr. Robison is a Wrong Planet member. Significantly, he writes very early in the book that all forms of autism (yes, us Aspies) exhibit communication difficulties. Indeed; that's one of our triads of impairments. Now, from my Wrong Planet experience 8) I regard those who talk a lot (you know who you are :) ) are in fact displaying a communication difference.

I guess it's more of a communication difference and how it's expressed depends upon the individual. I've wondered too if I'm selectively mute. I watched a BBC programme about selective mutism - a little girl was featured that could speak, physically, but in certain situations (i.e. school!) she could not speak a word. She was NOT faking it and her mutism was all too real. Instead, mutism can be an anxiety response. I imagine plenty of Aspies fall into this category as well. In 3rd grade I stopped talking entirely for ~ 9 months. Now I sometimes just cannot........trying to do better, really, and I am. Other times I point and I really do prefer to write. If I plan what I am to say or have a purpose then I'm OK. At times I'll say, 'wait, let me start over.'


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28 Apr 2011, 1:29 am

I generally have to rehearse what I have to say in advance. A sudden change of topic will cause problems for me, and it takes me a couple of seconds to figure out what I want to say.


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28 Apr 2011, 2:03 am

I'm similar to wavefreak58:

If I know the topic and have written/talked/read about it before, I can probably speak at length.

Otherwise, I find it difficult to collect and translate my thoughts, and I end up with a lot of choppy rhythm, long pauses, and lose track.



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28 Apr 2011, 10:00 am

Zen wrote:
In the case of cashiers and such, I always plan what I'm going to say before I go up to them, so it's less of a problem. If I'm supposed to say something I haven't planned, though, I have a lot of difficulty.


This. If I'm not expecting a question, my brain sometimes stops working and I give the wrong answer. I even do this with obvious things like my age or where I live. I send most motorists in the wrong direction if they ask me for directions.



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28 Apr 2011, 10:11 am

When I was younger I covered this with alot of UMMMMMMMMMM...

Not quite as acceptable when you are older. I now practice all sorts of canned responses for all occassions.



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28 Apr 2011, 10:16 am

Indy wrote:
Zen wrote:
In the case of cashiers and such, I always plan what I'm going to say before I go up to them, so it's less of a problem. If I'm supposed to say something I haven't planned, though, I have a lot of difficulty.


This. If I'm not expecting a question, my brain sometimes stops working and I give the wrong answer. I even do this with obvious things like my age or where I live. I send most motorists in the wrong direction if they ask me for directions.

Yes! I do those things too. :lol: I feel pressured to answer, so I say something that I guess I quickly relate to what I'm being asked, even if it isn't the right answer.



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28 Apr 2011, 10:29 am

Zen wrote:
Indy wrote:
Zen wrote:
In the case of cashiers and such, I always plan what I'm going to say before I go up to them, so it's less of a problem. If I'm supposed to say something I haven't planned, though, I have a lot of difficulty.


This. If I'm not expecting a question, my brain sometimes stops working and I give the wrong answer. I even do this with obvious things like my age or where I live. I send most motorists in the wrong direction if they ask me for directions.

Yes! I do those things too. :lol: I feel pressured to answer, so I say something that I guess I quickly relate to what I'm being asked, even if it isn't the right answer.

:lol: Exactly! It reminds me of Homer Simpson talking to his brain: "Better say something or they'll think you're stupid."