Do Asian Countries even bother about ASD?

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Are there any efforts by asian governments to address ASD?
Yes 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
None 9%  9%  [ 1 ]
Some, but not enough 18%  18%  [ 2 ]
Dunno 64%  64%  [ 7 ]
Why should I care? 9%  9%  [ 1 ]
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21 Jun 2011, 8:26 am

Even though I am a new member here, I realised that there are more posts relating to problems faced by us with ASD in the western countries. Hence I decided to start one on ASIAN COUNTRIES!! ! :wink:

question: do you think that advanced or rapid developing asian countries did enough for people with ASD? If not, are there suggestions to improve?

i might be start a new thread on problems faced by ASD people in advanced or rapid developing Asian countries if this has enough responses =)

hope you have something to share :D


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21 Jun 2011, 8:46 am

AFAIK Japan has the largest % of AS people, which can somewhat explain why looking people in the eyes there is an insult.



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21 Jun 2011, 9:08 am

Chummy wrote:
AFAIK Japan has the largest % of AS people, which can somewhat explain why looking people in the eyes there is an insult.

I believe it is their culture :D I went to japan twice and they do not stare at you regardless whether the person is an NT or ASD person :)


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21 Jun 2011, 9:17 am

There are definitely efforts to help people with ASDs in Asian countries, but it really depends on the country. The different countries have very different cultures and are set up very differently. I've heard that in Japan there are a lot of people with AS; but they are dealing with mental illness and disability related stigma that seems to be somewhat worse than what we deal with in the US. In other places, North Korea and the rural parts of China for example, there isn't adequate medical care and people with ASDs don't get a lot of therapy, if any, and it all depends on how much the family can help them. Other places are highly advanced and the medical care is as good as it gets. I mean, Asia is an entire continent; how could you make a statement about all of it at once? That just doesn't make sense.

BTW, one of the reasons we aren't hearing much from Asia here on WP is probably the language barrier--English is pretty much required to participate on WP, and I don't think there are a lot of countries in Asia where it's the dominant language... the Philippines, maybe? More likely we would get people who learned it in school.


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21 Jun 2011, 9:24 am

Callista wrote:
There are definitely efforts to help people with ASDs in Asian countries, but it really depends on the country. The different countries have very different cultures and are set up very differently. I've heard that in Japan there are a lot of people with AS; but they are dealing with mental illness and disability related stigma that seems to be somewhat worse than what we deal with in the US. In other places, North Korea and the rural parts of China for example, there isn't adequate medical care and people with ASDs don't get a lot of therapy, if any, and it all depends on how much the family can help them. Other places are highly advanced and the medical care is as good as it gets. I mean, Asia is an entire continent; how could you make a statement about all of it at once? That just doesn't make sense.

BTW, one of the reasons we aren't hearing much from Asia here on WP is probably the language barrier--English is pretty much required to participate on WP, and I don't think there are a lot of countries in Asia where it's the dominant language... the Philippines, maybe? More likely we would get people who learned it in school.


okay.. then i should change to developed or rapid developing asain countries :D


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21 Jun 2011, 9:32 am

Heh, even then there are differences! Maybe focus on just one.


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21 Jun 2011, 9:33 am

Merly_merlyn wrote:
Chummy wrote:
AFAIK Japan has the largest % of AS people, which can somewhat explain why looking people in the eyes there is an insult.

I believe it is their culture :D I went to japan twice and they do not stare at you regardless whether the person is an NT or ASD person :)


You missed the point. It might be possible that their culture was influenced by the relatively high percent of AS people in Japan that is higher than other countries. We will never know if that's true though.



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21 Jun 2011, 9:41 am

Chummy wrote:
Merly_merlyn wrote:
Chummy wrote:
AFAIK Japan has the largest % of AS people, which can somewhat explain why looking people in the eyes there is an insult.

I believe it is their culture :D I went to japan twice and they do not stare at you regardless whether the person is an NT or ASD person :)


You missed the point. It might be possible that their culture was influenced by the relatively high percent of AS people in Japan that is higher than other countries. We will never know if that's true though.


check your facts..... I highly doubt that it is the culture that got influenced (sorry for the sudden general paper format, i am a VERY skeptical person)


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21 Jun 2011, 9:51 am

Merly_merlyn wrote:
Chummy wrote:
Merly_merlyn wrote:
Chummy wrote:
AFAIK Japan has the largest % of AS people, which can somewhat explain why looking people in the eyes there is an insult.

I believe it is their culture :D I went to japan twice and they do not stare at you regardless whether the person is an NT or ASD person :)


You missed the point. It might be possible that their culture was influenced by the relatively high percent of AS people in Japan that is higher than other countries. We will never know if that's true though.


check your facts..... I highly doubt that it is the culture that got influenced (sorry for the sudden general paper format, i am a VERY skeptical person)


Did you even read my post? Let me rephrase it to you. Here are the facts:

1) Japan has the largest % of AS people.
2) It's an insult to look in people's eyes in Japan.

As I said, we will NEVER know if their culture was influenced or not. I was just making an interesting point.



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21 Jun 2011, 12:10 pm

And they have taken unusually well to careers in technology and science, too, which is one place where an Aspie with a talent in that area can generally fit in pretty well... Living on islands, their gene pool has probably been isolated for a while; it's not unlikely that perhaps this particular ethinic group had a slightly increased autism rate. After all, many genetically-related groups of people have higher rates of one thing or another.

Check this article--
Researchers Track Down Autism Rates Across the Globe

Apparently in South Korea it's so shameful to have autism in the family that kids often don't get diagnosed, or get diagnosed with reactive attachment disorder instead.

Oh, and it has an autism rate for Japan: 181 per 10,000, which is nearly double the 1:100 rate in the US. Interesting, but not conclusive: In many other areas, rates have increased similarly thanks to new diagnosis.


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21 Jun 2011, 12:49 pm

Chummy wrote:
1) Japan has the largest % of AS people.
2) It's an insult to look in people's eyes in Japan.

As I said, we will NEVER know if their culture was influenced or not. I was just making an interesting point.


It's also an insult to use blunt, direct language, which goes against your point.



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21 Jun 2011, 2:04 pm

Janissy wrote:
Chummy wrote:
1) Japan has the largest % of AS people.
2) It's an insult to look in people's eyes in Japan.

As I said, we will NEVER know if their culture was influenced or not. I was just making an interesting point.


It's also an insult to use blunt, direct language, which goes against your point.


Excuse me? Since when I was blunt here? I was just helping the OP to understand my point of view. Your post is completely inappropriate.



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21 Jun 2011, 2:17 pm

Chummy wrote:
Janissy wrote:
Chummy wrote:
1) Japan has the largest % of AS people.
2) It's an insult to look in people's eyes in Japan.

As I said, we will NEVER know if their culture was influenced or not. I was just making an interesting point.


It's also an insult[ in Japan ]to use blunt, direct language, which goes against your point [that Japanese culture reflects AS traits].


Excuse me? Since when I was blunt here? I was just helping the OP to understand my point of view. Your post is completely inappropriate.


Uh oh. I can see I need to edit my post for clarity. I'll put my edits in brackets.

I didn't mean you were making a blunt insult. I meant Japanese culture favors indirect language and it is considered an insult to be blunt when speaking with a Japanese person. So although direct eye contact is considered an insult (which makes it seem like a rule that would have been made by and for Aspies), the use of direct and blunt language is also considered an insult (a rule seemingly by and for NTs).

Sorry for being confusing. :oops:



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21 Jun 2011, 2:26 pm

Janissy wrote:
Chummy wrote:
Janissy wrote:
Chummy wrote:
1) Japan has the largest % of AS people.
2) It's an insult to look in people's eyes in Japan.

As I said, we will NEVER know if their culture was influenced or not. I was just making an interesting point.


It's also an insult[ in Japan ]to use blunt, direct language, which goes against your point [that Japanese culture reflects AS traits].


Excuse me? Since when I was blunt here? I was just helping the OP to understand my point of view. Your post is completely inappropriate.


Uh oh. I can see I need to edit my post for clarity. I'll put my edits in brackets.

I didn't mean you were making a blunt insult. I meant Japanese culture favors indirect language and it is considered an insult to be blunt when speaking with a Japanese person. So although direct eye contact is considered an insult (which makes it seem like a rule that would have been made by and for Aspies), the use of direct and blunt language is also considered an insult (a rule seemingly by and for NTs).

Sorry for being confusing. :oops:


:lol: LOL

only an aspie would take things literally like that.



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12 Nov 2011, 9:20 am

I'm Taiwanese, and I have AS...