"Mozart and the Whale" - Rubbish!

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15 Dec 2006, 11:11 pm

I just saw it-rented it at blockbuster actually. I liked it, but it wasn't a WOW movie. I hated izzy's laugh and her smoking. I thought the main guy's character was cute. (can't remember his name). some of the characters in the group annoyed me. i did like how the girl and the guy were almost completely opposite in the asperger traits they presented. it made it very interesting. i do wish there was something more to the movie, but i can't figure out exactly what.

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15 Dec 2006, 11:25 pm

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I see the movie as a compilation of almost all aspie traits I have identified. Of course they exaggerated the behaviors, but what did you expect? If they made a movie about aspies who manage to look normal, it would look like a movie full of normal people, and there's plenty of those already. I think this movie was a great gift to us all, especially considering it didn't make enough money to cover it's budget. If you don't see yourself in this movie, maybe it's because you haven't realized how weird you actually look from the outside.

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Agreed.

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16 Dec 2006, 10:43 am

http://www.amazon.com/Mozart-Whale-Wide ... UTF8&s=dvd

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16 Dec 2006, 11:12 pm

While I agree it was exagerrated at times, I liked the film overall...I posted my full review in another thread.

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17 Dec 2006, 5:29 am

I really must see this film, then I'll give my view, I saw a trailer and it looked dire.

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17 Dec 2006, 4:55 pm

walk-in-the-rain wrote:

Since the movie was based on a real couple - the important factor should be whether THEY feel like they were stereotyped.

Whale: We were but not nearly as much as we feared when we saw the original script. Both Donald and Isabelle are watered-down versions of me and my wife but since they didn´t use our real names, we can live with it.

Otherwise if it is an accurate portrayal and seems overdone or cartoonish that is a perception issue about allowing Aspies/auties to be themselves.

Whale: Every one of the aspergers and mostly autistic people in the movie was inspired by a real-life person on the spectrum. Most of them in fact weren´t savants.
Most of them were given different quirks for the sake of the story and to show the diversity within the autism community.

Sort of like no one wanting a black person to be shown in a stereotypical role shining shoes. Well if the movie was biographical/autobiographical about a black man who shined shoes than it would be silly to give him another profession because no one wanted to show sterotypes. All groups of people have certain stereotypes - some positive, some negative. I have not seen the movie either or even really read the reviews so I don't know how the people who were supposed to be represented feel about it.

Whale: My major problem with the movie is the soundtrack which sucked and the length which was too short to give the subject the depth it deserved. OTOH, it is the first movie to show a spectrum of adults and show them attempting to deal with a lot of adult issues. Hopefully, better movies will be made but it is a big step forward from the incredibly narrow and stereotypical view of autism rendered by previous movies.

Thanks to all for your comments.

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18 Dec 2006, 7:03 am

What kind of music was on the soundtrack. Somebody said they didn't like the wife's laugh or her smoking. I think some people do have very annoying laughs but they probably can't really help.

Smoking is very smelly but it's so easy to get hooked on cigarettes and hard to give them up once you're hooked. I don't think smoking is an attractive habit but the people who manufacture the ciggies don't care if their product ages people prematurely or makes them look silly as look as they make heaps of money.

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18 Dec 2006, 11:20 am

Pandora wrote:

What kind of music was on the soundtrack.

Whale: Most pop crap. The only good stuff was actually Mozart music which should have been the only music used.

Somebody said they didn't like the wife's laugh or her smoking. I think some people do have very annoying laughs but they probably can't really help.

Whale: My wife laughs like that and smokes. BTW, both leads were deliberately cast as attractive physically because the writer and director wanted to show that AS can occur in ANYONE. They deliberately avoided stereotypical casting of the leads.

Smoking is very smelly but it's so easy to get hooked on cigarettes and hard to give them up once you're hooked. I don't think smoking is an attractive habit but the people who manufacture the ciggies don't care if their product ages people prematurely or makes them look silly as look as they make heaps of money.

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18 Dec 2006, 6:43 pm

"If you don't see yourself in this movie, maybe it's because you haven't realized how weird you actually look from the outside. "

Fernando, that is great - made me laugh. True.

I loved the movie. I could see myself a lot in this movie, as could two Aspie friends of mine who also saw it. It ain't gonna be perfect but it was pretty good.

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18 Dec 2006, 10:40 pm

Hyperbole is illustrative.

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18 Dec 2006, 11:21 pm

Well, Jerry, I just saw the movie and loved it. I cried like a baby in several parts because I like romantic tearjerker stories. It reminded me of my relationship with my ex who was my soulmate in many ways...Thanks for sharing your story with the world.

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22 Dec 2006, 8:12 pm

i liked it but it was very off. my wife and best friend are aspies too. i am sure that some aspies are like the folks in the movie but it was a movie not fact or real. it is base off a guy but it was not exact. i was a romance movie.

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22 Dec 2006, 8:25 pm

CanyonWind wrote:

If they made a movie based on my life, it would have no plot and no characters, and the hero would always lose.

Some stunning visuals and a few good action scenes, though.

I would watch it! Mine could be edited to seem like a good movie but my live has been
99% me alone in the corner doing nothing.

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30 Dec 2006, 12:21 am

I don't think it was rubbish

I really enjoyed watching this movie and thought is was pretty good.

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01 Jan 2007, 4:20 pm

I haven't watched it yet because I have difficulty sitting through anything that isn't an action film. Relationship films bore me.

That said the dvd is one of the top renters in town. Now I wonder who is renting it ...if its moms of autistic kids, adults Aspies or just all of the University sociology dept.

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01 Jan 2007, 5:42 pm

Well I liked the movie, and I understand what you're saying about it being stereotyped. I think that was probably to be expected. I don't know that a movie on AS can ever be accurately be portrayed since everyone on the spectrum is different. I think the support group people were probably more autistic than AS. I did see a bit of myself in both Donald and Isabelle, but I'm probably more inbetween as far as functioning goes. Some things were not me at all as well.

I did like the movie a lot though.

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