Aspergers mentioned in the Daily Mail

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17 Aug 2011, 2:48 am

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LOTS of couples undergo artificial insemination, not just women who have female partners. It's a difficult process in the Netherlands because of costs and time but women should not be so desparate as to put themselves at great risk by interviewing dubious characters on the internet hoping they will perhaps provide them a means to a baby. Perhaps the system needs reviewing and overhauling so women can go to clinics and go that route, even though it's true, someone with Asperger's can always lie on their application at clinics. Then, there's the issue of people with AS who don't even know it. What if they donate sperms or eggs? It's not just a matter of knowing one is an Aspie then lying on the application. Sometimes people honestly don't know. Whenever someone has a child, there's no guarantee said child will be perfect. It's part of the unconditional love thing. You have to accept the cards you have been given and make the best of your hand.


There are clinics, the problem is that there are not enough sperm donors.


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17 Aug 2011, 4:12 am

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What exactly is there to be mad about?

I think mainly it's the word "infected"......the article seems to fly in the face of all our efforts to get the world to see us as different rather than subnormal. It's likely to make people see us simply as a reproductive liability. The same paper would probably say that Aspies are all perfectly fit for work, and would recommend we didn't get incapacity benefits. The Mail has a right-wing agenda, so it's hardly surprising that marginalised minorities and Lefties such as myself hate it so much.



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17 Aug 2011, 4:19 am

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The same paper would probably say that Aspies are all perfectly fit for work, and would recommend we didn't get incapacity benefits.


Do you live in the UK?

I don't read the Mail that often because it's often completely contradictory, playing to the base prejudices of its readers. A lot of conservatives and libertarians know the paper is a liability and a laughing stock and treat it with disdain.



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17 Aug 2011, 5:45 am

Tequila wrote:
ToughDiamond wrote:
The same paper would probably say that Aspies are all perfectly fit for work, and would recommend we didn't get incapacity benefits.


Do you live in the UK?

I don't read the Mail that often because it's often completely contradictory, playing to the base prejudices of its readers. A lot of conservatives and libertarians know the paper is a liability and a laughing stock and treat it with disdain.


Yes I live in the UK. I don't read the Mail, but I've studied it sometimes. Back in the day, there were these feminists who protested at RAF Greenham:

http://www.greenhamwpc.org.uk/

Rather than concocting a credible intellectual argument against what those women were doing, the Mail resorted to criticising their clothes and labelling the women "drabbies" (their own word, presumably derived from "hippies," whom they also despised of course). Go back a few more decades and there are headlines such as "hooray for the blackshirts!" :roll:

What really cracks me up is the string of "headlines" on the right-hand side of their webpage. It's nearly all soft-core celebrity porn. Could it be that there's something cynical going on?



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17 Aug 2011, 6:08 am

That article seems as though it's written with human poo instead of blue ink and keyboards.


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17 Aug 2011, 7:26 am

He had to be honest for sure. But please do not go too far with the "autistc gene(s)" being a curse, or we jump to the conclusion all Aspies should be aborted for their own sake.
I just think that the mother had the right to be informed if possible, period.



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17 Aug 2011, 2:50 pm

In my view the daily mail is the worst newspaper everything they write is a load of rubbish.



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17 Aug 2011, 3:23 pm

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In my view the daily mail is the worst newspaper everything they write is a load of rubbish.
Yes. It is remarkable only for the quantity of unmitigated crap and bile that one rag can generate. Nothing published in it is worthy of attention, let alone discussion.
For example:
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2 ... noscript=1
(scroll down a bit to "Recent News" for links to the headlines)


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28 Aug 2011, 2:48 am

My mum has read the Daily Mail all her life - I've stated my policy to her that if she needs me to buy something from the shop it can't be the Daily Mail as I point blank refuse to buy it for her.

I'm trying to get an asperger's diagnosis at the moment, which is difficult as I'm an adult (I'm 31) - and my mum isn't being very co-operative with the specialists I've been seeing.

I wonder if there's a link between that and her devotion to the Daily Mail?



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28 Aug 2011, 11:03 am

Phonic wrote:
newspaper writer is insensetive and sensationalist

male donor is a moron

female recipients are morons for doing this

those kids are doomed to a sub par quality of life now because of this.
Don't tell me it isn't true, don't give me that crap about little autistic professors and finding a job in your special interest, we all know that's uncommon - for the most part we are an unhappy unemployed harrassed bunch and I wouldn't wish it on 22 babies on the off chance that one of them turns out to be a prodigy and the rest live confusing meaningless lonely hard lives.

That's..just how it is


I work with lots of scientists and it's probably more common than you think. I work in an area of my subinterest, yes I've been bullied but that's certainly not my fault as the behaviour was unacceptable by anyone's standards. Maybe the little autistic professors and those who've found a job in their interest are too busy doing that than getting diagnoses or chatting on forums :)

I think a vast majority of the problems exist as a result of trying to fit into the NT world, everything is geared towards NT's, their behaviour and presentation, their responses to job interview questions. If society were tweaked a little to be a bit more accepting many of the issues would disappear IMO.



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28 Aug 2011, 12:20 pm

Infect??! No imagination?! Unhealthy man?!



Disgusting article.



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01 Sep 2011, 5:37 am

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Maybe the little autistic professors and those who've found a job in their interest are too busy doing that than getting diagnoses or chatting on forums :).


Good point. Seriously, this is the reason why I suspect the stats on Aspies and jobs to be flawed - because those who seek for an adult diagnosis are largely those who need more support. I am not saying it's not difficult but the most desperate data might be exaggerated.