Do you think the man in the film is mild, mod or severe?

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24 Aug 2011, 10:43 am

Do you think the man in the film is mild, moderate or severe?[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwnaypIzUoo[/youtube]

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24 Aug 2011, 1:05 pm

After watching five minutes of it, I would say moderate.

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24 Aug 2011, 1:27 pm

I would say mild. He can do a variety of activities well, without Autism interfering.

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24 Aug 2011, 2:40 pm

I thought severe to moderate but leaning more towards moderate.

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24 Aug 2011, 2:54 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:

I would say mild. He can do a variety of activities well, without Autism interfering.

But he still needs daily help and needs someone with him because he can't tell sense of danger and he still can't communicate all that well. That is not mild. I have never met anyone in my autism groups like that.

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24 Aug 2011, 7:54 pm

I agree and would say he is moderate. And would be more moderate-severe than mild-moderate (but still moderate), IMO.

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24 Aug 2011, 8:18 pm

This is the way I see it.

Low functioning - someone who does nothing but hit oneself constantly
Mid functioning - this guy
High functioning - someone who can live without support

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24 Aug 2011, 9:20 pm

SammichEater wrote:

This is the way I see it.

Low functioning - someone who does nothing but hit oneself constantly
Mid functioning - this guy
High functioning - someone who can live without support

Lines too easily drawn there - I'm visibly milder than this guy and most describe me as "high functioning" but I also need support. Also, I think a lot of people labeled as "LFA" are capable of more than "doing nothing but hitting one's self constantly." Anbuend mentioned some going to university (and at least one who had a doctorate), driving, and/or having a job.

But then I think functioning labels are often arbitrary and come with a lot of assumptions about people's capabilities. The video itself discusses autistic skill scatter - where we can be really good at some things and really bad at others. I tend to think that certain patterns of scatter tend to be interpreted as LFA or HFA or MFA (although the last more rarely) on the basis of a few traits without a full understanding of what people may be dealing with.

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24 Aug 2011, 9:20 pm

If he did not have help he would die. That's not mild.

Let's be brutal and define functioning levels by how long you could survive unassisted. The stereotypical, headbanging, non-verbal would starve to death in a few weeks, perhaps less if dehydration takes hold. Zack might step in front of a car on the first day.

My point? As stated many times before by many others, functioning levels are meaningless. High, medium and low are so dependent on circumstance and support networks that even someone as high functioning as myself would be homeless with just a few changes in my life, a few different decisions along the way.

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25 Aug 2011, 2:02 am

SammichEater wrote:

This is the way I see it.

Low functioning - someone who does nothing but hit oneself constantly
Mid functioning - this guy
High functioning - someone who can live without support

I know these are meaningless terms, but if he had to be classed as either high functioning or low functioning, what do you think he'd be, since MFA is rarely used.

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25 Aug 2011, 2:23 am

AlexWelshman wrote:

SammichEater wrote:

This is the way I see it.

Low functioning - someone who does nothing but hit oneself constantly
Mid functioning - this guy
High functioning - someone who can live without support

I know these are meaningless terms, but if he had to be classed as either high functioning or low functioning, what do you think he'd be, since MFA is rarely used.

Different professionals might consider him to fit into HFA or LFA for whatever reasons. There's not really a hard and fast rule at the borders, and these labels aren't even part of a formal diagnosis.

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25 Aug 2011, 4:44 am

I wouldn't say he's severe at all. Possibly mild to moderate.

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25 Aug 2011, 6:42 am

He seems to be worse than me at some things and better at others. I get told I'm HF so he might be called HF too by at least some people.

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25 Aug 2011, 10:02 am

Moderate.

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25 Aug 2011, 10:03 am

AlexWelshman wrote:

SammichEater wrote:

This is the way I see it.

Low functioning - someone who does nothing but hit oneself constantly
Mid functioning - this guy
High functioning - someone who can live without support

I know these are meaningless terms, but if he had to be classed as either high functioning or low functioning, what do you think he'd be, since MFA is rarely used.

If given the choice between those two, I would say high functioning based on what he is capable of. He's still disabled, but he can still do a variety of tasks quite well.

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