Page 1 of 3 [ 35 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3  Next

78444
Butterfly
Butterfly

User avatar

Joined: 24 Aug 2011
Gender: Male
Posts: 13

25 Aug 2011, 9:30 am

___



Last edited by 78444 on 28 Aug 2011, 5:45 am, edited 4 times in total.

purchase
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 19 Feb 2010
Age: 38
Gender: Female
Posts: 2,385

25 Aug 2011, 9:55 am

I read the report. Are you or is whoever this patient is diagnosed with Asperger's? If so... I'm not sure, that seems like a MAJOR thing to not take into account in a psychological report.



78444
Butterfly
Butterfly

User avatar

Joined: 24 Aug 2011
Gender: Male
Posts: 13

25 Aug 2011, 10:05 am

___



Last edited by 78444 on 28 Aug 2011, 5:41 am, edited 1 time in total.

Knifey
Deinonychus
Deinonychus

User avatar

Joined: 19 Aug 2011
Age: 40
Gender: Male
Posts: 324
Location: South Australia

25 Aug 2011, 10:11 am

because he entered you into a "generalized anxiety disorder treatment study". this is a specific study for people with anxiety which has criteria and guidelines you're not aware of. they probably had a list of things that disqualified you from the study and AS wasn't on the list when it should have been. that is my guess, things like that happen all the time.


_________________
Four thousand six hundred and ninety one irradiated haggis? Check.


purchase
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 19 Feb 2010
Age: 38
Gender: Female
Posts: 2,385

25 Aug 2011, 10:13 am

Hmm. Well you have cause to believe you have it though? Maybe the therapist who wrote it is not trained to diagnose Asperger's? I think one has to be a psychologist to do that (?). Did you ever ask for an official diagnosis and did this therapist say she thought you had it?



78444
Butterfly
Butterfly

User avatar

Joined: 24 Aug 2011
Gender: Male
Posts: 13

25 Aug 2011, 11:01 am

___



Last edited by 78444 on 28 Aug 2011, 5:41 am, edited 1 time in total.

Ettina
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 13 Jan 2011
Age: 35
Gender: Female
Posts: 3,971

25 Aug 2011, 11:09 am

Reading it over, I can see a number of areas where having AS may be relevant. Was this therapist told that AS was a possibility?



AardvarkGoodSwimmer
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 26 Apr 2009
Age: 61
Gender: Male
Posts: 7,665
Location: Houston, Texas

25 Aug 2011, 12:55 pm

78444 wrote:
. . . the emphasis of the report is distrust toward the therapist as well as possible delusional beliefs. . .

That's the part where you run, don't walk.

Once they start talking about distrust of the therapist, 'resistance,' something like that, fold the hand and see someone else. Which you have every right to do as both a patient and as a human being.



Fnord
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 6 May 2008
Gender: Male
Posts: 60,939
Location:      

25 Aug 2011, 1:15 pm

78444 wrote:
Psych report makes no mention of AS. How come?

I don't know ... but I'm going to go out on a limb here and take a wild guess that maybe - just maybe - your self-diagnosis is invalid and you do not have AS.

But then that would involve trusting a diagnosis from a trained expert in the field of psychology, instead of the subjective opinion of someone who lacks any relevant training.

AardvarkGoodSwimmer may be on to something, though; you do have the right to seek a second opinion ... and another ... and another ... until you find one who gives you the right diagnosis.

Sometimes, you just have to trust your own beliefs, regardless of the number of opposing professional opinions.



littlelily613
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 11 Feb 2011
Age: 40
Gender: Female
Posts: 3,608
Location: Canada

25 Aug 2011, 4:22 pm

Knifey wrote:
because he entered you into a "generalized anxiety disorder treatment study".


This is what I was going to say too.

If you were involved in a non-Aspergers-related study and do not have an official diagnosis of Aspergers, why would you EXPECT them to mention Aspergers in the report? I was recently involved with a study for autism...I would not expect them to diagnosis me with anything at all, only concur that I do indeed have autism. The purpose of research studies is not diagnose people but to--it seems in this case--provide a sort of treatment to see how effective it is on people with GAD. Again, I see no reason why you would expect mention of Aspergers. If you are looking for a diagnosis, you will likely to have to pay for one like most other people do through a private clinic.

Also, unless they gave you permission to upload that document, you may want to blot out their signatures.


_________________
Diagnosed with classic Autism
AQ score= 48
PDD assessment score= 170 (severe PDD)
EQ=8 SQ=93 (Extreme Systemizer)
Alexithymia Quiz=164/185 (high)


Apple_in_my_Eye
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 7 May 2008
Gender: Male
Posts: 4,420
Location: in my brain

25 Aug 2011, 4:40 pm

I had neuropsych testing done 10 years ago for cognitive problems, and I asked the neuropsychologist about Asperger's/PDD's. She said didn't have expertise in that and so couldn't assess for it.

So, just because someone is a psycholgist/neuropsychologist doesn't mean they have the ability to test for every possible condition. I think what most of them do is aim to be is knowledgeable about what they'll most commonly see, i.e. anxiety and depression. So, you can't expect any random shrink to automatically figure out a PDD (especially in an adult), unless you know they have specific knowledge & experience about that.

You have to find someone who is specialized if you want a proper ASD assessment, IMO. Any random shrink likely won't be good enough.



AardvarkGoodSwimmer
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 26 Apr 2009
Age: 61
Gender: Male
Posts: 7,665
Location: Houston, Texas

25 Aug 2011, 5:50 pm

Apple_in_my_Eye wrote:
I had neuropsych testing done 10 years ago for cognitive problems, and I asked the neuropsychologist about Asperger's/PDD's. She said didn't have expertise in that and so couldn't assess for it. . . .

So, they kind of treat what they know. Sometimes that's appropriate and helpful, and sometimes it isn't.

==========

I really think the movement for full inclusion and rights for those of us on the spectrum will largely be self-help and self-advocacy. Different kinds of professionals can help out, but they can't run the show.



78444
Butterfly
Butterfly

User avatar

Joined: 24 Aug 2011
Gender: Male
Posts: 13

25 Aug 2011, 7:06 pm

___



Last edited by 78444 on 28 Aug 2011, 5:41 am, edited 1 time in total.

littlelily613
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 11 Feb 2011
Age: 40
Gender: Female
Posts: 3,608
Location: Canada

25 Aug 2011, 7:31 pm

78444 wrote:
Pay attention to the emphasis of the summary: it makes a tacit diagnosis of paranoia. But there is not a single acknowledgement of the psychological torture the poor patient endured being treated by people who had no business touching him.


A tacit diagnosis? So, is this you reading between the lines? I did see a diagnosis of GAD, and some other related things near the end of the report. You took diagnostic tests RELATED TO THE STUDY prior to the therapy. So, they were looking for conditions related to those they were studying for their research. I still do not see why you think you were supposed to get an Aspergers diagnosis from them. Were you looking for a cheap way to get a diagnosis on paper or something? It doesn't seem as though they have anything to do with ASDs...maybe they CAN'T diagnose ASDs. I would suggest, if you are looking for a report with the term Aspergers in it, to go pay a private, qualified psych, and get it that way.

If you feel as though you were being "psychologically torture[d]", then why did you stay as long as you did? Participants can always leave studies whenever they want. If it was as bad as torture, maybe you should have left before seven sessions. I was "tortured" at one new type of therapy, I was tricked into trying. I did not go back for a second. Seems logical to me. After reading the report, it doesn't seem as though you were the easiest patient to deal with either.

78444 wrote:
The patient owns the content of his/her medical reports. He/she does not need permission to share that content with third parties.


Just seems like a matter of courtesy, IMO. You took the time to blot out your own name, seems it wouldn't take much time to blot out their SIGNATURES (not necessarily their names). But whatever.


_________________
Diagnosed with classic Autism
AQ score= 48
PDD assessment score= 170 (severe PDD)
EQ=8 SQ=93 (Extreme Systemizer)
Alexithymia Quiz=164/185 (high)


littlelily613
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 11 Feb 2011
Age: 40
Gender: Female
Posts: 3,608
Location: Canada

25 Aug 2011, 7:37 pm

78444 wrote:
Which boils down to: the patient should diagnose himself or herself and find a doctor who is willing to verify that self-diagnosis.


Not in response to mine, but I am responding anyway:

No, it does not boil down to that. What it boils down to is: people who have self-diagnosed themselves with Aspergers do not go to a research study for GAD and expect to get a diagnosis of an ASD. These people are researching and specializing in anxiety disorders. They are in the middle of a STUDY INVOLVING anxiety disorders. They are not there to diagnose every single person who comes into this study with every single non-related condition this person might have. That is not the point of a research study. So basically what it boils down to is, when you want an Aspergers self-diagnosis verified professionally, you save up your money, contact a clinic with a psychologist or psychiatrist who is qualifed to diagnose ASDs (many are not), and you go to him or her, have them perform the evaluations necessary for this diagnosis, then get the report you seek.


_________________
Diagnosed with classic Autism
AQ score= 48
PDD assessment score= 170 (severe PDD)
EQ=8 SQ=93 (Extreme Systemizer)
Alexithymia Quiz=164/185 (high)


78444
Butterfly
Butterfly

User avatar

Joined: 24 Aug 2011
Gender: Male
Posts: 13

25 Aug 2011, 7:41 pm

___



Last edited by 78444 on 28 Aug 2011, 5:42 am, edited 1 time in total.