Is it alright to Smoke weed, if you have Autism?

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05 Sep 2011, 12:22 pm

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I have smoked and not smoked for long periods for the last 40 years. When I don't smoke, I am LESS motivated to do work and want to just sit around and stare. As soon as I smoke again, I become very enthusiastic about doing active things and get busy. Also, smoking definitely increases creative and associative thinking for me. Those are the up sides.

Here are the down sides: I am less able to connect with other people when stoned. Since this is a problem area due to AS, smoke does not help me in this regard. I also do not recall dreams when I smoke. Dreams can provide important insight into what I am feeling so not recalling them is a loss to me. And smoking can cause coughing.

When I was a teenager and smoked, I used to get very parinoid. I stopped smoking for a long time because of this. Now I never feel paranoid when smoking. I think the weed makes me more aware of what is going on inside myself and is not the cause of the paranoia. Although this may be different for other people. I am only taking about my own personal experience here.

Overall, I think that most pharmesutical drugs are dangerous or potentially dangerous. They cause diabetes, liver damage and heart problems. Weed is relatively harmless compared to these other drugs.

My advice is to use your own judgement. If it makes you feel better in some situations, use it. If it makes things worse or if you don't like the effect, then don't use it.
Thank you for the word of advice, I will use my judgment wisely. But yeah, I don't rely on it or anything, but it does make me feel better sometimes. Thanks again.



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05 Sep 2011, 12:28 pm

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Not so Sincerely yours,
OD Obviously, you think that I need a grip on reality, no argument there. So thanks for the blatant insult to my perception of my own thoughts in a different format of sorts. You also seemed to make exaggerated illusions to my own thoughts as if they were unachievable, or beyond my abilities. Thanks for insulting my intelligence as well. And the fact that you had to make up a fake story to combat my points, indicates, that you've never experienced something along the lines of what I described. So this indicates, that you meant this post as mostly insulting. And to say the least, your insults don't phase me.


Totally agree with you on this one. There are a few stories on here I have to say horses**t to. :wink:

Cannabis has done what perscription meds have not been able to do for me and that is make me more sociable. When I am not high I am a hermit that mistrust everyone I have not gotten high since 1995 and suprise suprise I have not really left the house with the exception of work and going to the store. When I take cannabis I am able to open up to people and I smile more I also loose all of my social anxiety. I also am able to focus better on what I am doing without going off on tagents and other distractions. If you want to listen to the people on here whose only cannabis experience is watching Reefer Madness or one just as exaggerated Cheech and Chong movie then go ahead. But you are missing out on a viable treatment. Do some research before you let the story tellers lead you from the truth.

I have several cannabis strain guides on PDF that I took from different magazines if anyone would like to see them send me a message with your email address and I will send you several of them.
Thank you on this, I already know a fairly good amount about Cannabis , and its many products. So I won't be easily influenced by certain crap. So thanks for the support in this forum, and hopefully it did some good.



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05 Sep 2011, 2:20 pm

As someone mentioned earlier, it is certainly a case by case situation. It also depends on whether you smoke for pleasure, stress relief, or medication. For me to take any amount of pleasure from a high, I tend to require a rather large dose. If, however, I just need to take the edge of my anxiety, am having difficulty breathing, or have a pain in my bad leg, a few hits is usually enough to quell the symptoms without producing noticeable intoxication. I find when I smoke I am better able to verbalize complex or emotional thoughts, ( Typically, I am an image/concept thinker. I have to imagine 'conversations' in order to verbalize a thought. ) I am much less anxious, and take greater amounts of pleasure from the little things, and tend to hyperfocus more. That isn't to say that there are not negatives that go along with it as well. I find that when I am high, I am much more 'sensory sensitive'; sounds lights and smells tend to bother me more than they normally would. I am also paranoid, but I believe this is purely situational. I've always been paranoid about my parents finding out that I smoke, and since I'm living in a small town that is a very republican community, I'm terrified of anyone finding out that I smoke less word make its way around to my employers, the local hospital.

Contrarily, I have also read and met a few individuals in which marijuana increases anxiety. Whether or not these individuals were on the spectrum or not, I can't say. As far as the chemistry goes, our brains are 'hard wired' with THC receptors. This suggests that marijuana has played a role in our evolution, and that in the appropriate doses is completely safe.

Whether or not it is a good thing for you, well, only experience can answer that. If you're new to any drug, prescribed or not, It's best to start with low, measured doses to see how things will ultimately affect you.



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05 Sep 2011, 2:51 pm

I smoked consistently for around 5 years and it is the thing in my past I regret the most.

That whole part of my life is a distorted warped mess. If you can avoid it then please do, I can speak from experience.



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05 Sep 2011, 3:18 pm

Its fine otherwise, being an aspie, its beneficial. Lol.



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05 Sep 2011, 4:55 pm

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I smoked consistently for around 5 years and it is the thing in my past I regret the most.

That whole part of my life is a distorted warped mess. If you can avoid it then please do, I can speak from experience.


+1

This was my experience as well....



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06 Sep 2011, 7:45 am

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I smoked consistently for around 5 years and it is the thing in my past I regret the most.

That whole part of my life is a distorted warped mess. If you can avoid it then please do, I can speak from experience.


I may be assuming too much here, but by that statement I believe you probably spent the majority of your time stoned or high. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

That is -not- a good thing. The important thing in any situation, not just drugs, but virtually any situation, is moderation. If you do nothing but smoke and stay stoned for the majority of your time, you probably wont be enjoying life. That's not healthy and it's not good for you. I have been smoking marijuana for a good eight or nine years. I used to smoke every day, all the time. Most of that year or two is a complete cloud in my memory, and looking back I cant say I enjoyed it.

After a while, I figured out that you need your sober time as well as your high time, otherwise there is no point, no benefit to smoking at all. (With the exception of any medicinal benefits, but that of course leaves the dosage issue.) Right now I don't smoke much, but that's just because it isn't financially feasible for me to maintain a constant supply, and it's very difficult to find in my new community. There's more anxiety involved in finding it than it relives.

Under normal circumstances, as in that past, I would smoke once a day, in the evening, shortly before bedtime. I have had no adverse affects to report during this time.

Forgive my rambling; my point is this. Like any other substance that affects our body, marijuana is a drug. It can be beneficial. It can be abused.



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06 Sep 2011, 9:28 am

I tried it twice and didn't really experience anything to out of the ordinary. My aunt was a big pot head and nothing to bad has come out of that. (She didnt have any brain cells to begin with :p)



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06 Sep 2011, 9:31 am

Cannabis is the only thing that turns off my thoughts so I can focus. I wouldn't have gone to college orgott a good job without cannabis because my social anxiety vanishes when I'm high. I stopped my meds and have only smoked for the past 3 years. As long as you have a head on your shoulders and don't abuse it rock on... For all those who say you're gonna be a loser are just repeating what they learned in school and have no idea about the reality. You live once and if pot makes life more enjoyable do it up bro. If you can do it the legal way threw medical places but they are few and far between.



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06 Sep 2011, 9:38 am

MisterJ wrote:
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I smoked consistently for around 5 years and it is the thing in my past I regret the most.

That whole part of my life is a distorted warped mess. If you can avoid it then please do, I can speak from experience.


I may be assuming too much here, but by that statement I believe you probably spent the majority of your time stoned or high. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

That is -not- a good thing. The important thing in any situation, not just drugs, but virtually any situation, is moderation. If you do nothing but smoke and stay stoned for the majority of your time, you probably wont be enjoying life. That's not healthy and it's not good for you. I have been smoking marijuana for a good eight or nine years. I used to smoke every day, all the time. Most of that year or two is a complete cloud in my memory, and looking back I cant say I enjoyed it.

After a while, I figured out that you need your sober time as well as your high time, otherwise there is no point, no benefit to smoking at all. (With the exception of any medicinal benefits, but that of course leaves the dosage issue.) Right now I don't smoke much, but that's just because it isn't financially feasible for me to maintain a constant supply, and it's very difficult to find in my new community. There's more anxiety involved in finding it than it relives.

Under normal circumstances, as in that past, I would smoke once a day, in the evening, shortly before bedtime. I have had no adverse affects to report during this time.

Forgive my rambling; my point is this. Like any other substance that affects our body, marijuana is a drug. It can be beneficial. It can be abused.


Ok but you are forgetting one key element. Is the OP smoking by himself with his own supply or is his toking with buddies?

Smoking is supposed to be a kind of social event. Nothing against smoking by yourself.

I wasn't exactly pressured into doing it, but it started because a few friends of mine at the time were doing it. From then on, I started smoking with people, and when there is a group present, the etiquette and the number of bowls changes.

Had I smoked by myself, I would have taken 1 drag, and been ok for a few hours or even gotten out of the house.

But being high in public doesn't work unless you have those buddies around to have a good time, or else you will feel paranoid as f**k. So whenever I smoked by myself, I became so paranoid, I catatonically couldn't leave my house.

Anyways I think it boils down to levels of anxiety, depression, paranoia among others.

OP if you can get high by yourself, and still manage to get out of your house, then I think that is the test as to whether you can comfortably.



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06 Sep 2011, 5:59 pm

I've been told by an autistic pen-pal that smoking weed helps him relax. I'm all the more curious to try it now, as I am extremely irritable and have very bad anxiety.


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06 Sep 2011, 6:46 pm

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I smoked consistently for around 5 years and it is the thing in my past I regret the most.

That whole part of my life is a distorted warped mess. If you can avoid it then please do, I can speak from experience.


I may be assuming too much here, but by that statement I believe you probably spent the majority of your time stoned or high. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

That is -not- a good thing. The important thing in any situation, not just drugs, but virtually any situation, is moderation. If you do nothing but smoke and stay stoned for the majority of your time, you probably wont be enjoying life. That's not healthy and it's not good for you. I have been smoking marijuana for a good eight or nine years. I used to smoke every day, all the time. Most of that year or two is a complete cloud in my memory, and looking back I cant say I enjoyed it.

After a while, I figured out that you need your sober time as well as your high time, otherwise there is no point, no benefit to smoking at all. (With the exception of any medicinal benefits, but that of course leaves the dosage issue.) Right now I don't smoke much, but that's just because it isn't financially feasible for me to maintain a constant supply, and it's very difficult to find in my new community. There's more anxiety involved in finding it than it relives.

Under normal circumstances, as in that past, I would smoke once a day, in the evening, shortly before bedtime. I have had no adverse affects to report during this time.

Forgive my rambling; my point is this. Like any other substance that affects our body, marijuana is a drug. It can be beneficial. It can be abused.


Ok but you are forgetting one key element. Is the OP smoking by himself with his own supply or is his toking with buddies?

Smoking is supposed to be a kind of social event. Nothing against smoking by yourself.

I wasn't exactly pressured into doing it, but it started because a few friends of mine at the time were doing it. From then on, I started smoking with people, and when there is a group present, the etiquette and the number of bowls changes.

Had I smoked by myself, I would have taken 1 drag, and been ok for a few hours or even gotten out of the house.

But being high in public doesn't work unless you have those buddies around to have a good time, or else you will feel paranoid as f**k. So whenever I smoked by myself, I became so paranoid, I catatonically couldn't leave my house.

Anyways I think it boils down to levels of anxiety, depression, paranoia among others.

OP if you can get high by yourself, and still manage to get out of your house, then I think that is the test as to whether you can comfortably.


You raise some valid points, however, I think the paranoia is situation. I think paranoia is more of a side effect of consequence than the actual drug itself. I cannot speak with certainty, because everywhere I have lived has been very hard on marijuana smokers and/or produces, so paranoia has always been an issue. However, in situations where I was comfortable, with no chance of being caught by family or lawn enforcement, I find that I don't experience paranoia.

It should also be noted, that just as with any other intoxication, a person with more than the mildest buzz shouldn't be running around in public anyway.

It only takes small doses to deal with the average levels of anxiety, and in doses strong enough to cause a powerful feeling of paranoia, it defeats the purpose because the anxiety is just gonna come right back tenfold.



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06 Sep 2011, 6:46 pm

i dont think its for me but what ever floats your boat if you must be careful with weed its a powerful drug and i would be very sad if something horrbile happened to my fellow aspies



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06 Sep 2011, 6:47 pm

Nothing bad about weed. For me it gets rid of the social anxiety I normally have when around people and I actually have a good time instead of being slumped in the corner listening to music.


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06 Sep 2011, 6:53 pm

glad it helps you whatever makes us feel better isnt weed legal in canada?



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06 Sep 2011, 6:56 pm

Helps with anxiety, but also you can get stuck in your head.

I don't think it would really improving your socializing, unless you want to socialize with potheads. Then it works great.