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N0tYetDeadFred
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24 Sep 2011, 8:44 am

My experiences are similar to the OP. When I started teaching, I was really shocked...all of the kids lie! While some of the other teachers give kids lunch detention I give mine "lie detention" instead, because it annoys me so much. But maybe I need to rethink that, because it might be due to a physical difference.



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24 Sep 2011, 2:51 pm

N0tYetDeadFred wrote:
My experiences are similar to the OP. When I started teaching, I was really shocked...all of the kids lie! While some of the other teachers give kids lunch detention I give mine "lie detention" instead, because it annoys me so much. But maybe I need to rethink that, because it might be due to a physical difference.


It's so hard to get your head around isn't it? Lieing being a natural thing. I was told it was bad so I believed it was. No-one ever said actually it's perfectly normal I do it all the time. Maybe it is time for a rethink about those detentions.



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24 Sep 2011, 9:29 pm

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So she didn't say it in front of the person good. So what's wrong with saying it to herself alone? But yet you turn around and told your friend she doesn't like Barbies anymore. That doesn't make any sense because you just broke your own rule.


No, she did not said it in front of the person, but just because she didnot open the present in front of the person. But it is not like she said it to herself. It was a very loud expression of disgust when she opened the present. The only reaxon why my friend did not listen was because she was in another room. And she was planning to tell my friend she did not like the present. I convinced her not to and just say "thank you". My friend was going through financial troubles back the and it was very difficult for her to buy the present, but she did it anyway because we are dear friends.

I did not break my rule. The rule is not hurting the other person's feelings. I did not tell her my daughter did not like her present. I just told her she was not into barbies anymore. I just did that to avoid future problems with that kind of gifts.



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25 Sep 2011, 3:43 am

I have no problem lying if it is to put people off my back.

I would rather lie than to be annoyed constantly. However if someone asked me something on the lines of "do I have a great singing voice?" I would give them my honest opinion and spare them from humiliation later in life.



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25 Sep 2011, 5:11 am

proxybear wrote:
I have no problem lying if it is to put people off my back.

I would rather lie than to be annoyed constantly. However if someone asked me something on the lines of "do I have a great singing voice?" I would give them my honest opinion and spare them from humiliation later in life.


Have you just been watching X Factor? :D



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25 Sep 2011, 10:20 am

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I generally will be honest and tell people the truth and what I actually think. In the past I was more cautious about speaking out, but now, at my age of 66, I could care less if I offend someone. If honesty and truth is offensive to someone, then that's their problem and not mine.


Great words to live by!



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25 Sep 2011, 1:05 pm

I seem to find the "little white lies" people use every day to be hard and make me feel physically nauseas. It's not really a lack of ability to lie, it's more a lack of ability to judge when I'm socially expected to lie.

In my mind at least, I seem to believe there's the truth and there's a lie, there is no grey area. My instinct says lying about how someones haircut looks carries the same weight as cheating on someone in a relationship, even though I know the world doesnt work that way.



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26 Sep 2011, 2:27 am

It's very hard for me to lie, though I am capable. I don't do it well or convincingly though. I just choose not to comment when a topic arises that I know telling the truth would be rude to others. BUT, if they specifically ask me to give my opinion or view on the issue. I am completely honest, and I think that people respect that even if they don't especially like it.



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26 Sep 2011, 3:21 pm

I can't help wondering what it is about our wiring that makes us feel this way?! ! :scratch:



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26 Sep 2011, 5:21 pm

My mom calls me 'Honest Abe'. She says she can't run a light while I'm in the car because I'll tell the officer,"Yep, it was red!" :?



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27 Sep 2011, 11:09 am

AspieWolf wrote:
I generally will be honest and tell people the truth and what I actually think. In the past I was more cautious about speaking out, but now, at my age of 66, I could care less if I offend someone. If honesty and truth is offensive to someone, then that's their problem and not mine.


Damn straight, wolf. If you can only handle one possible answer, then don't ask the question in the first damn place, and if you do, don't get pissed at the person for being f*****g honest... I will NEVER understand how it's "polite" to lie... f**k that. Lying is IMPOLITE as far as I'm concerned. Tell me the damn truth. I don't ask questions to hear lies. I ask questions because I'm curious or I genuinely care, and if you lie to me, chances are I'll think you're telling the truth, depending on what it is and how ridiculous it is, how much info I know about what they're lying about, etc... But like let's say your birthday is coming up and i have no idea what to get you, or i have something in mind but i don't know if you like it or not.... I ask "do you like fishing?" If I get the response that you do, I'm going to probably get you fishing supplies for your birthday. Now, if that was a lie, I just wasted my money, and you're going to have fishing stuff that's gonna just collect dust. Then you'll probably get pissed off that I don't know you well enough to know you didn't like fishing when it was your own goddamn fault for not just telling me the truth in the first place... I HATE THAT s**t. If I don't like something, I'm gonna tell the damn person... at least they'll know where I stand then, as long as they don't assign these invisible ulterior motives to what I do and say...

God, I hate NTs sometimes. They are incredibly illogical creatures...

I really hate lying. I don't feel physical pain from it or anything, but something just fundamentally within my brain tells me it's wrong, and I never want to do it if I can help it. I have no problem lying to certain authority figures about certain things though, to keep me out of trouble and whatnot.



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27 Sep 2011, 11:12 am

Im honest when I tell you that Im a damn good lier.



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27 Sep 2011, 12:50 pm

According to a few people I know, I'd actually be quite good at lying seeing as I lack an outwardly apparent "tell". My facial expressions aren't very dynamic, it seems, so I don't have any of the tics that most people do when lying.

Problem is, I never know when a lie is appropriate, though I guess I could tell you functionally when one should do so. I'm working on the art of the "white lie" right now. If someone asks me if some article of clothing looks weird on them, you're not supposed to say "yes", even if it's true unless you want to hurt the person. Remembering to apply that rule is another issue entirely.