Solving autism via illegal drugs

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I've posted a couple of times on this forum, wanting to make sense of what I see as a full recovery from my ASD (I may have a couple of mild autistic traits still, but nothing that wouldn't also be common in an NT). This is the major part I left out (mostly because I wasn't sure whether it was okay to say it here): taking ecstasy was a massive breakthrough for me.

I'm not saying it cured my ASD, but I am saying that I feel I may well not have gotten to the place I am now without it. I did actually feel like it switched something on for me. Not only had I never before felt so good as the first time I took it, but I had literally NEVER felt the emotion it stirred in me at all, not even a little bit as far as I can recall.

I used to idealise the way it made me feel and act, as though it made me into a perfect human being. In reality, it probably magnified my ASD traits for the most part as I announced my innermost thoughts about myself to whoever was around. However, I really wanted to connect with others, would make a heartfelt attempt to say and do whatever I thought would make that connection, and felt such joy when they reciprocated. Their reciprocation probably had to do with the fact that they had also taken it, but nonetheless it was a wonderful experience!

Although the high obviously did not last, and some of the comedowns were profoundly awful, I now had a blueprint. Ecstasy was now my special interest, and I was obsessed with finding ways to live the high without needing to take the drug. It had also opened a door in me, and I was able to start integrating this new emotion in my everyday life to some degree. Inspired by my drug experiences, in the following years I tried all manner of things to expand as a person, including some that were quite alternative and extreme. I also recall how conversations with friends shifted for me, from being focused on the words being spoken, to being more about guiding and nurturing a positive mutual feeling between myself and my conversation partner.

I haven't taken ecstasy again for many years now, and may well never touch it again. But I have always considered it to be a good thing that I took it, all the more so now that I have learned that people are not supposed to recover from ASD.

I've also taken mushrooms, which were fun but did not help me in any way I can identify. As for cannabis, I have never understood why people speak of it as having medicinal properties. For me it worsened my ASD symptoms, made me lethargic, frustrated, out of shape, paranoid and anxious, and any physical pain I had would get worse. However, it was sometimes fun at the time.

Have yet to try MDMA. Perhaps someday.

Had my share & then some of psilocybin. Not sure it cures Autism symptoms.. but they are certainly beneficial in oh-so-many ways & I very highly recommend them to anyone interested in such things. Studies have shown that the only potential lasting side effects are positive - basically, people's bass line level of happiness increases. Also, in a John Hopkins Medical Centre study, psilocybin was the only substance to ever permanently cure (in some cases) clinical depression.

Haven't had LSD, but I have had LSA (lysergic acid) a couple of times which is the natural precursor acid used to make LSD. Again, not sure it cures any Autism symptoms.. but it sure was fun!

LSA is Lysergic Acid Amide, not simply Lysergic Acid. Lysercig Acid is a precursor to Lycergic Acid Amide (LSA) but it is debatable weather you can actually produce LSD by using LSA as a precursor. I highly doubt it would be possible, if it was then why are people not producing LSD in this way?

Psychedelics have been beneficial to me, especially alpha-methyltrypatmine but it has done nothing to help my autism related symptoms. No drug is going to re-wire my brain in such a radical way. How ever I do believe some psychedelics do make permanent physiological changes on a cellular scale, making tiny changes to gene expression and what not, read about epigenetics. It is fascinating. I keep saying to myself that I am done with drugs but I keep coming back for more, even though I almost messed myself up recently on a novel and rare LSD analogue (I think that was more to do with what was going on in my life though as i have taken doses twice as strong in the past and been physically and psychologically fine on it). How ever these will soon be illegal in the UK but I hope to have lost all interest in them by then. The potent Psychedelics that I have been taking are not toys and I advise everyone to steer clear. Some really weird things have happened to me through them.

I'll admit, I was once reading an article, I think it was on Wikipedia, about the effects of MDMA, and one of my first thoughts was "this is exactly the drug I need to feel normal". The thing is, I'm not entirely trusting of it. Why? It's illegal to possess, you don't know what you're getting when you buy it, as drug dealers like to cut their stuff to increase their profits, and it's technically an amphetamine, which means that it potentially has strong stimulant effects, which could be bad for someone like me who's probably screwed up their heart rhythms with too many energy drinks. I've heard that it could also cause brain damage, though I may just be confusing it with PCP.

I absolutely agree with JPS. The first time I used hard drugs, it was like finding a window in the room I'd been locked up in. I used MDMA, and suddely so many things made sense to me, and I could relate to the people around me. It was kind of the classis 'eureka' moment. After spending a life trying to figure out what it was my friends were always talking about, I could finally feel it for myself. The most important lesson I got from it was that I am able to feel.

When it comes to drugs and first times, I always tell people that it is very important to understand your motives though. Do not use drugs because you feel like it will solve anything. Change, when it comes to yourself, must come from within yourself in order to be able to keep feeding it in a healthy The moment you need something from outside, whether it is drugs or whatever, you will have to keep using it to sustain the feeling. However, if you use drugs because you want to feel something, to have something to compare (or because you like that feeling), I don't think there's something wrong with that. So, basically, it just really depends on who you are, what your motives are.
Drugs are not a cure, but the deffinitely can help.

I don't think it helps cognative empathy, but at least in my experience gets rid of whatever barrier it is that makes it hard to express it for a time, or at least weakens it quite a bit. I certainly have never wanted to hug everything in sight on it(maybe didn't take enough for that, probably wouldn't want to), or was in love with everything more enjoying the feeling and probably would enjoy physical contact with other humans more on it then sober, when sober I can find even someone accidently brushing against me on a bus really annoying don't think that would happen on ecstasy.

I tried Ritalin (officially prescribed). buth that made me very unstable.

I tried dextroamphetamine (officially prescribed), but that may me rather numb.

I tried various illegal substances including LSD, MDMA, levoamphetamine, methylone and 2-FMA (self-medicated). Those did benefit me a lot, but the stimulants to tend to be addictive and result in dependence.

Currently, I try to stay free from any medication most of the time, although I do self-medicate occasionally.

My prefered combo for alleviating the more negative Autism symtoms is a mixture of levoamphetamine, methylone and 2-FMA.

Hell, no. Never going to happen. The stress of breaking the law, meeting a dealer and dropping all that money on something that might not even help? And I'm not going to risk taking a psychedelic drug in this condition. I have a feeling I would be in for some very bad trips.

If marijuana helps and I can take it legally, in pill form so that I don't stink up my room, I may give it a shot.

Why are all these threads about drugs popping up all of a sudden?
Illegal drugs aren't the answer. Not when you've got responsibilities, like going to work, driving, etc. You should never encourage illegal drug use to ''cure'' your Autism. When things were getting bad for me, I went to see my doctor, and they prescribed me Sertraline, which I know may not help everyone but it has me, and it's been a year now and I still feel good on them.

BS. We don't lack empathy.

Because a poster a few posts above has been posting the same thing on them and they're all old threads.

I guess that's my doing.

I apologize to those who are bothered by my revival of this and other older threads involving this topic.



Illegal drugs CAN help you with taking up your responsibilities, like going to work, driving, working on your relationship, etc.

* I've used LSD and similar substances for self-exploration, dealing with anxiety and therapy.
* I've used Levoamphetamine to help me move around furniture, work efficiently and drive across Europe.
* I've used 2-FMP to improve my problem solving skills when programming.
* I've used Methylone as part of relationship therapy, for job interviews, for work meetings and in other contexts to improve my social skills and my capacity to relate to others
....

If you know how to use them and how each substance impacts your personal neurochemistry, illegal substances can be a very powerful tool! They can't "cure" you of your Autism, but they can reduce your weaknesses and/or increase your strengths for a limited time.



The only prescription substances I've tried to deal with my negative Autistic symptoms were Ritalin and Dextroamphetamine. Neither really worked for me. In fact, the vast majority of illegal substances I've tried were far more effective in a therapeutic context.



It depends on how you define "empathy". It appears that there are two types of relating with others : rationally putting yourself in other people's shoes (which I prefer to call "sympathy") and literally feeling what others feel without any rational though in between (which is what's commonly understood as "empathy"). Autistic people typically have no more or less capacity for "sympathy", but they do tend to lack in the area of "empathy".

And yes, illegal substances can help in that area. In my case, it is especially methylone that trigger my capacity for "empathy", alongside other subconscious processes "neurotypicals" tend to refer to as "intuition".

Using Methylone, it's much easier for me to convey a thought in a way that the words coming out of my mouth carry the proper emotional load to correspond with those thoughts. Also, I tend to be much less defensive in arguments, which can be useful when trying to solve a dispute.

Methylone also reduces sensitivity to light and sound, and thus can also prevent sensory overload.

Eh. Cannabis on random occasions.

But I couldn't live without my regular doses of Chamomile, Valerian root, Hibiscus, and Rooibos.

The first two are amazingly effective , at least from my perspective, on lessening over all meltdown like conditions (even when they are occurring). Hibiscus has a clarity driving effect, and Rooibos is generally a good cure-all.

And yes, Im probably one of those weird herb people.

Drugs CAN'T CURE/SOLVE s**t!

They are purposefully made to create addictions and only remove symptoms temporarily to inflate the drug dealers(doctors') pockets!! !

Ya'll been warned...

That's just what Big Brother wants you to believe.

In reality, it's mostly idealistic chemists who create new substances, with the explicit purpose of helping people deal with the insanity that passes for culture these days.

The most famous chemist is Alexander Shulgin. He discovered, synthesized, and personally bioassayed over 230 psychoactive compounds, and evaluated them for their psychedelic and/or entactogenic potential. He has been dubbed the "godfather of psychedelics".

Just a couple of weeks ago, I met a chemist from Denmark myself, who recently discovered his first recreational drug. Besides his hobby of playing around with recreational substances, he's also a leading scientist in the development of a legal drug that can reduce the symptoms of a certain mental condition (on which I'm not giving any more details, to prevent his identity being revealed).