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ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo
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23 Aug 2011, 7:41 pm

Sometimes I just want them to get out of my way.



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23 Aug 2011, 9:21 pm

robh wrote:
I think its an issue of practice more than anything.


I agree!



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23 Aug 2011, 10:58 pm

mimsytheborogove wrote:
robh wrote:
I think its an issue of practice more than anything.


I agree!

And one need not be perfect. :flower:

People want constructive activities to do, sometimes just any activity to do, and want a boss who's a halfway reasonable individual.



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23 Aug 2011, 11:11 pm

An autistic person can be a leader. Autistic people can be leaders. In short - yes.



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23 Aug 2011, 11:16 pm

Yes, people with Autism can be leaders.



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23 Aug 2011, 11:17 pm

mglosenger wrote:
An autistic person can be a leader. Autistic people can be leaders. In short - yes.


I was wondering when someone was going to notice that grammatical mistake. I think everybody was being nice so far. ;)



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23 Aug 2011, 11:46 pm

I want to be logically correct, otherwise I feel like my statement would not really answer the intended question :) I didn't notice it myself until I started to type an answer

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24 Aug 2011, 2:18 am

mglosenger wrote:
I want to be logically correct, otherwise I feel like my statement would not really answer the intended question :) I didn't notice it myself until I started to type an answer

Everybody wins


Indeed. That's the WIN/WIN attitude that kfisherx recommends! :)



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24 Aug 2011, 3:30 am

Not all Autistic people are the same. Some are born leaders and some are not.
I cannot deal with people who go against my decision, nor do I like disagreeing with people because I'm so passive aggressive. I know some other autistic people like me.



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25 Aug 2011, 6:08 pm

The following is an example of what I consider to be low-key leadership:

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National Guidelines for the Management of Severely Malnourished Children in Bangladesh, May 2008
http://www.unicef.org/bangladesh/SAM_Guideline.pdf

(from letter on page 4)
“ . . . I congratulate the Institute of Public Health Nutrition for taking this important initiative to adopt the national guidelines. I acknowledge the valuable contributions by experts and health professionals from public and private sectors, development partners and research institutes. . . ”
Dr. A M M Shawkat Ali

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That is, welcome a step forward. A good paper today is better than a 'perfect' paper in six months (which might not even be 'perfect,' but instead merely clumsily written). Welcome the good thing today.



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25 Aug 2011, 7:24 pm

Yes, I think so. :) But I think it's less likely, as someone who's autistic tends to have less social skills, and social skills are a key element in leadership. But like anything, I think it more depends on the person rather than what diagnosis they have.



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26 Aug 2011, 1:06 am

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
OJani wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
It just depends on if they want to be a leader badly enough. Question is, why would they want to? I guess some do.

This. And personality traits such as self-confidence, self-esteem, being good (and quick!) at certain skills are also important. I suppose the more autistic someone is the less likely he'll become a leader. See functioning levels.

From my experience, self-confidence is a major indicator of success.


I hope it's a good predictor too!

[/pedantic] :P



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03 Nov 2011, 1:19 pm

Just this summer I had to lead three volunteer groups as a part of the project where I'm participating now. Strange enough, I had less problems with the biggest group than with two smaller ones. Basically I set a number of general rules that we all agreed on, leaving other issues to be decided by voting when needed, facilitated the group building and the communication of the group with the local partner and decided where I had the authority to decide. The volunteers were actually very happy about how it all went on.
I'm not sure if it was the size of the groups that made it more difficult for me to manage two other groups. Maybe it got too personal, some volunteers recognized my social difficulties and didn't see me as a leader anymore, to cut a long story short, I wasn't able to set the rules and get others to obey them. Not that it was a total failure, one group was also satisfied with the work in spite of the small problems.

Well, it's not exactly the same as in business, but still an example of how it's still possible.



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03 Nov 2011, 2:04 pm

No. Autistic people can lead other autistic people, in theory, but an autistic person cannot "be a leader". Look at great leaders in history, they never showed signs of autism. Look at your local leaders, they don't show signs of autism. Any 'evidence' posed against this claim is just naively getting your hopes up.



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03 Nov 2011, 2:13 pm

I am an aspie and will be a CEO(leader) in a few weeks, i'm still 17 and an aspie so people think it's impossible but i feel like aspies are better leaders then others, we are perfectionists in what we do and are like the quiet, calm genius in the place. don't doubt yourself, you'll be great.


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03 Nov 2011, 2:35 pm

Christopherwillson wrote:
I am an aspie and will be a CEO(leader) in a few weeks, i'm still 17 and an aspie so people think it's impossible but i feel like aspies are better leaders then others, we are perfectionists in what we do and are like the quiet, calm genius in the place. don't doubt yourself, you'll be great.
What makes you think you can speak for others? Although I doubt you're a calm, quiet genius to begin with, with all your stims and awkward posture, nobody listens to a logical leader. People listen to a charismatic leader. And Aspies aren't charismatic. QED.