Is bullying people who are different right or wrong?

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No, that is horribly inaccurate......Sure I get quite down on myself sometimes, but I did not attempt suicide out of weakness. It was a combination of Depression, Anxiety, having a dysfucntional family, being bullied/singled out by students and school staff and possibly some of the problems associated with my suspected AS. Is it really that weak if a 15 year old kid feels so overwhelmed by it all and that everyone would be better off without their existance that they feel suicide is the only valid option. I've been there and I've been close to attempting again a few times as well.

and your explination is it just comes down to weakness?

lol I am glad you don't care who disagrees, but maybe don't post ignorant statements if you don't want people to call you out on it. Go take a few psychology classes before you try to simplify something as serious as suicide.......maybe it is easier for you to deal with if you assume to reach the suicidal mindset indicates weakness thats just some simple just world bias.

And i don't need to consult a moderator.......to call out ignorance when I see it.

Whatever, cling to which ever delusions you find help you sleep at night.

Yeah right back at you. What are suicidal people an easy target for you or semething?

Um, how am I targeting suicidal people?

This thread is about people with "differences" and was not directly addressing those who have AS nor any other mental disorder, it was implying that the subject matter was wide open to interpretation.

Question: Is Bullying People Who Are Different Right or Wrong?

My Answer: "Considering that severe bullying can lead the weaker of fortitude to commit suicide, I'd say that it's pretty damn wrong."

Now tell me, where did I go wrong with this comment that you are now inferring that I meant that people who commit suicide are weak? I made no such comment, I merely stated that bullying can erode the self-esteem of an individual especially if they are of a sensitive disposition, thus propagating feelings of depression which may lead one to commit suicide.

To be honest, I was, indeed, implying that some kids are weaker than others or are more obvious targets than other kids, but I see nothing wrong with making such an assertion. I was something of a stalwart child and did not succumb to bullying as some of my peers did, but later in life, I found that I couldn't abide the bullying I was facing on a daily basis, so I retreated from the world for around 5 years.

I never gave any hint to my bullies that they had succeeded in breaking me, but so many years of isolation took there toll regardless of being far from the bullying environment, and I became depressed as a result. I felt so stuck that I wanted to end my life to silence my racing thoughts, to give myself liberation from a tortured existence.

Long story short, I got help and vowed never to show such weakness again, and it is a personal view that I do not expect others to share. I made the mistake of mentioning how I felt about suicide here on this forum, and then Verdandi accused me of condemning suicides as cowardly acts of self-destruction, and now I get you jumping down my throat as well.

I don't know what I did to deserve this treatment, but please stop; I've had a rough day and I don't need this on my plate in concert with everything else I am dealing with.

I think being bullied in general is wrong.

I was bullied all through Elementary, Middle and parts of High School.

It's part of the reason why I have social issues and don't trust many people unless I get good vibes from them.

But seriously. Bullying is a serious issue and can leave people pretty messed up. I sorta handled it by learning to laugh at my faults and be happy with who I am mentally.

The OP wants to hear:

No bullying isn't bad. It's harmless fun and it's the victim's fault for being different.

Look,i made this thread and the previous one some days ago for some reasons.See this thread(from another member) for example:

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt126792.html

Or he wishes someone would type that it's kids being kids and getting through a rough childhood builds character or that it's no big deal. I've heard all kinds of excuses, mostly from the bully's parents who don't want their kid in trouble for bullying. At the same time, they will be the first to stand up for their bullying kid when he gets bullied in return. Suddenl, it's a very big deal.

You're targeting suicidal people by making the ignorant claim that its weakness alone to blame for their state of mind. Just appeared you where trying to simplify a complex issue and blame it on the person hurt by things like bullying for being weak. I mean people who bully are not always stronger...and people who are hurt by bullying are not just simply weaker then the bully it can't be simplified that way.

and also different does not=weak.....so yeah, maybe I misunderstood your point but it seemed ignorant.

Actually, it might've been a tad ignorant, as I was using my experience as the template for what others might or might not have experienced with suicide and making judgements based on that view.

I can see that now.

I just don't like the idea of decent people wasting their lives on account of the prejudice of others, and it makes me sad to think that so many young people blessed with unique talents could have the wind taken out of them by bullies, of all things. I want people with differences to thrive and help better our world, and I certainly do not want them to kill themselves because of the opinions of bad sorts currently polluting our society.

But it could be that other circumstances are complicating the thought processing necessary to overcome depression, but I hadn't considered that when stating my opinion, and I am sorry for doing that. I abhor the nature of suicide, because it is such an insidious, subtle thing, and it can build incrementally over time, coming flooding back just when you thought that you were done with it.

That's why I hate it so much and wish to be over it entirely, but it seems that I am destined to live with it till the end of my days. Thanks for not coming down on me too hard about it, by the way; I could've treated the matter with more tact, but I kinda lost it. That, and finding out that I have AS and now have problems with acute anxiety, I guess that maybe it had always been due to AS that I felt suicidal to being with, which is hard for me to reconcile with.

Can you forgive me? I didn't mean to come off like such a d*ck, and I apologise for being an insensitive jerk.



Edit: At least we are all able to agree on the issue at hand; bullying in all its forms is wrong, no matter which way you examine it.

I disagree that suicide is inherently irrational. Depression isn't something that merely "tricks" you into suicide, it's a major bottleneck on coping mechanisms, pleasure, creativity, and motivation - you know, the stuff that makes healthy people happy. The stuff that makes such people believe that life is something that is always worth desperately clinging to no matter the circumstance. While one may argue that depression is just a false state of mind, it is well-established that the effects are very real when it comes to overall happiness, health, and success. It is no more logical to expect a person to claw and bite for a life for which they have such restricted resources necessary to cope with life in general than it is to expect a car to run on Empty. I see suicide as little more than the unfortunate consequence of running out of these resources - not rational or irrational, just something that is. Is the color blue rational or irrational?

Yeah its fine.....lol, I just get defensive about this subject. Especially since I feel like I must have some strength somewhere to have put up with all that crap until the age of 15 when I attempted suicide with no help from anyone. And to not have attempted again since then even though I think about it. I mean I think even someone who does not have the same weaknesses as me would feel pretty frusterated, overwhelmed and depressed if they had my life. But yeah don't blame you for not liking the idea of suicide.......I don't particularly care for it either.

I was bullied a lot as a kid & I think it is extremity WRONG. It has caused me to have lots of mental & emotional problems that have made me even more different.

When someone has to resort to bullying or abusing someone this means that the one/s doing the bullying is/are probably jealous of them.

Bullying victims usually have something that the bully doesn't have and is jealous of. Usually it's because they are pretty but it can also be due to other reasons.

My experience with bullying tells me that pretty people are usually bullied more often and this is especially true with girls but this is also true for men.

Pretty and weak-looking men are usually more often the targets of bullying. Unless the pretty-looking man is also strong-looking and looks like he can stand up for himself then this is probably the reason why some men become targets of bullying.

bullying is definitely not good especially for the person on the receiving end.

Um... is this a real question?