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22 Nov 2011, 2:40 pm

It's extremely common, if extremely moronic, behaviour. As for the situation where groups of guys pass you in a car, it's very rare they will do so with me without shouting something stupid that I can't decipher. I'd be astonished if this didn't happen less often to the normal red blooded or alpha male, something I certainly don't present as. I have difficulties with this type of irreverence and it does upset me, but it causes you meltdowns, I like OJani's suggestion of trying your best to hold in said meltdown until you are in private. I become upset at any sort of trolling that happens in public. Having moved to a new neighbourhood not long ago someone there seems to have noticed me and when seeing me in the street has been trying to strike up conversations as if I'm some sort of long time best buddy he recognises, when in fact I don't know who the hell he is or what he's talking about. This is also trolling and this particular situation is the type that people may or may not recognise.



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22 Nov 2011, 3:16 pm

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I experience this a lot on my bicycle, and have a similar background fighting back against bullies as a kid, and a similar adrenaline response. On a bike, when a car honks right behind you it can be scary. Cars are weapons that can easily kill cyclists.

I have the same issues with cycling. Sometimes I just flip the bird at them. When I get their attention, I try to deal with it... Some idiots behind the wheel really think they can do anything to cyclists to "discipline" them, so one have to be careful...



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22 Nov 2011, 4:04 pm

Sorry for the silly question, but do this kind of people troll random passers-by or is their attention caught by some particular behavior? Because I have got trolled so many times that every time I see a group of suspicious guys walking towards me I just turn the corner... I must admit that I tend look at the road while walking but apart from that I have no idea whatsoever o_O



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22 Nov 2011, 5:01 pm

faerie_queene87 wrote:
Sorry for the silly question, but do this kind of people troll random passers-by or is their attention caught by some particular behavior? Because I have got trolled so many times that every time I see a group of suspicious guys walking towards me I just turn the corner... I must admit that I tend look at the road while walking but apart from that I have no idea whatsoever o_O


they just target random passers by. It all comes down to immature kiddos being immature kiddos and having nothing better to do.


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22 Nov 2011, 5:16 pm

DemonAbyss10 wrote:
faerie_queene87 wrote:
Sorry for the silly question, but do this kind of people troll random passers-by or is their attention caught by some particular behavior? Because I have got trolled so many times that every time I see a group of suspicious guys walking towards me I just turn the corner... I must admit that I tend look at the road while walking but apart from that I have no idea whatsoever o_O


they just target random passers by. It all comes down to immature kiddos being immature kiddos and having nothing better to do.


Yeah but I don't seem to see it happen to others. Often when I'm on the bus people have jumped right out in front of the bus and the driver had to screech to a sudden hault, but he doesn't do anything to humiliate the silly pedestrian, just calmly carries on. But often when I just cautiously cross a road and a bus suddenly comes round the corner and has to gently slow down a little to wait for me to cross the road, I always find I'm getting hollered at. I just wonder if people are just out to get me - I must give off such a massively strong negative signal telling everyone that I'm daft so they can take all their anger out on me. Then people wonder why I loathe myself so much. Jesus Christ, didn't know my f*****g ''I am a daft twat'' signals were THAT obvious, jeez!

I feel like Kenny from South Park. He's always dying because he always happens to be in the wrong place at the wrong time and is just unlucky. Maybe it's the same with me, except dying is replaced with being centre of unwanted attention. For example, an angry bus-driver happening to approach just as I'm crossing. :roll:


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22 Nov 2011, 5:31 pm

I have had people honk at me as they drive by or young men shouting something out the window at me. I never took it personally. I was just "what?" and thought nothing of it. It's just too strange for me to get upset over it and I have been told it's random. I never understood that behavior. I have never done it myself. Maybe people are just honking to hear the sounds of their horn or they accidentally hit it and I just happened to be there. I have done that before so I give them a benefit of a doubt.



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22 Nov 2011, 5:35 pm

faerie_queene87 wrote:
Sorry for the silly question, but do this kind of people troll random passers-by or is their attention caught by some particular behavior? Because I have got trolled so many times that every time I see a group of suspicious guys walking towards me I just turn the corner... I must admit that I tend look at the road while walking but apart from that I have no idea whatsoever o_O


I used to walk looking at me feet or the ground just in front of me (for sensory reasons, I think), but when I changed to looking straight forward I noticed that those random drive-by comments decreased. I think when you're hunched over like that it looks like low self-esteem, and IME bullies notice and are attracted to that. There probably is also some degree to which they do it to any random person, but I think posture like (and other similar things) that tends to increase the odds significantly.

I think age may also have something to do with it; I hardly ever get that crap anymore (but OTOH I also don't get out as much anymore). The last time was some idiot yelling "hey, go back to Mexico" -- and I'm half asian, not hispanic. Those dumbassess; they could at least do me the courtesy of using the correct racial slur.



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22 Nov 2011, 5:38 pm

I remember in 7th grade, my class goes outside and a car drives by and the young man shouts out the window "get back to school" and some kids yelled back "shut up."


I also remember when I was in 6th grade, we were on the bus going home and after we pulled out of the school parking lot to go home, one of the boys from my class shouts out the windows to the workers who were working on the subdivision for the new neighborhood "ha ha you have to work, ha ha you have to work" and he kept shouting it and neither of them looked up nor said anything. They all acted like they were deaf.



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22 Nov 2011, 5:46 pm

Joe90 wrote:
DemonAbyss10 wrote:
faerie_queene87 wrote:
Sorry for the silly question, but do this kind of people troll random passers-by or is their attention caught by some particular behavior? Because I have got trolled so many times that every time I see a group of suspicious guys walking towards me I just turn the corner... I must admit that I tend look at the road while walking but apart from that I have no idea whatsoever o_O


they just target random passers by. It all comes down to immature kiddos being immature kiddos and having nothing better to do.


Yeah but I don't seem to see it happen to others. Often when I'm on the bus people have jumped right out in front of the bus and the driver had to screech to a sudden hault, but he doesn't do anything to humiliate the silly pedestrian, just calmly carries on. But often when I just cautiously cross a road and a bus suddenly comes round the corner and has to gently slow down a little to wait for me to cross the road, I always find I'm getting hollered at. I just wonder if people are just out to get me - I must give off such a massively strong negative signal telling everyone that I'm daft so they can take all their anger out on me. Then people wonder why I loathe myself so much. Jesus Christ, didn't know my f***ing ''I am a daft twat'' signals were THAT obvious, jeez!

I feel like Kenny from South Park. He's always dying because he always happens to be in the wrong place at the wrong time and is just unlucky. Maybe it's the same with me, except dying is replaced with being centre of unwanted attention. For example, an angry bus-driver happening to approach just as I'm crossing. :roll:


Maybe get someone to film you while you are walking down the street and watch it. See if you look like you are afraid, or if you look like you are ashamed to be there. If so, that draws attention. Also, doing something that others consider odd draws attention too. If you walk like you have every right in the world to be there, which you do have, then you are less likely to get the random harrassment. You also may not notice it if it's not directed at you. I don't always notice it when it happens to others.

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22 Nov 2011, 11:17 pm

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I know how you feel.
Do you get this random humiliation a lot? If you do then no wonder you feel the way you do. I feel the same. I get people yelling out of their cars at me, even though I know that I haven't done anything to cause any hazards or piss people off or anything like that, but people act like I DO, and sometimes I wonder why a lot of people seem to do this to me and it gets me believing that maybe it is me who's the daft twat causing a nuisance and they're just marking their territory by having to aggressively react back. It is very self-esteem-wrecking, and I think it's enough to give anyone meltdowns!

Sometimes I come home crying my eyes out and having to tell my mum that I got humiliated again today without doing anything, and sometimes she gets fed up with me for taking it so personally. But I can't help taking it personally. If it only happened once in a blue moon, I wouldn't take much notice, but because it happens to me every time I go out, I start to wonder what I'm doing to get other people humiliating me.

I may be Aspie, but I do know what I'm doing when I'm out. I have self-awareness, and I know what are hazards and what aren't (I did pass my driving test successfully), and I also know how to get humiliated and how to not, and I am high-functioning so I know how to hide my traits and come across as ordinary when I'm out. If I do do something embarrassing or stupid, I know it immediately afterwards, because I can just tell. But as far as I know I don't do anything silly or enough to make other people react. I always wonder if people just do it to make me feel even more bad about myself than what I already am.


Ok this honestly doesn't happen that often with me. I never go home and cry my eyes out. I go home and find weapons to hurt or kill them with. I basically located a few of the longest and sharpest kitchen knives I could find and pocketed them. I know what their car looks like vaguely and I thought about sitting in my car parked in the dark over by where they drove by me to find out if they live around my area. If they curse at me again, I will curse back and flip them off. If they keep driving on then whatever, but if they come at me I will pull out my sharp knives at the last minute and have a stabbing party. I don't care really about dying or getting hurt anymore. I am sick and tired and disappointed in humanity. Whether or not there is a god and he dislikes what I have done...well then it is ultimately his fault for putting me in a world with such trash and also his fault for giving people free will to the level where they can think they are entitled to be douche bags. It would feel like salvation slowly murdering trash like this and watching them slowly bleed out and the life leave their eyes. I will be waiting for them in my car tonight and see what happens.



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22 Nov 2011, 11:24 pm

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Joe90 wrote:
I know how you feel.
Do you get this random humiliation a lot? If you do then no wonder you feel the way you do. I feel the same. I get people yelling out of their cars at me, even though I know that I haven't done anything to cause any hazards or piss people off or anything like that, but people act like I DO, and sometimes I wonder why a lot of people seem to do this to me and it gets me believing that maybe it is me who's the daft twat causing a nuisance and they're just marking their territory by having to aggressively react back. It is very self-esteem-wrecking, and I think it's enough to give anyone meltdowns!

Sometimes I come home crying my eyes out and having to tell my mum that I got humiliated again today without doing anything, and sometimes she gets fed up with me for taking it so personally. But I can't help taking it personally. If it only happened once in a blue moon, I wouldn't take much notice, but because it happens to me every time I go out, I start to wonder what I'm doing to get other people humiliating me.

I may be Aspie, but I do know what I'm doing when I'm out. I have self-awareness, and I know what are hazards and what aren't (I did pass my driving test successfully), and I also know how to get humiliated and how to not, and I am high-functioning so I know how to hide my traits and come across as ordinary when I'm out. If I do do something embarrassing or stupid, I know it immediately afterwards, because I can just tell. But as far as I know I don't do anything silly or enough to make other people react. I always wonder if people just do it to make me feel even more bad about myself than what I already am.


I think that's a little much.

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Ok this honestly doesn't happen that often with me. I never go home and cry my eyes out. I go home and find weapons to hurt or kill them with. I basically located a few of the longest and sharpest kitchen knives I could find and pocketed them. I know what their car looks like vaguely and I thought about sitting in my car parked in the dark over by where they drove by me to find out if they live around my area. If they curse at me again, I will curse back and flip them off. If they keep driving on then whatever, but if they come at me I will pull out my sharp knives at the last minute and have a stabbing party. I don't care really about dying or getting hurt anymore. I am sick and tired and disappointed in humanity. Whether or not there is a god and he dislikes what I have done...well then it is ultimately his fault for putting me in a world with such trash and also his fault for giving people free will to the level where they can think they are entitled to be douche bags. It would feel like salvation slowly murdering trash like this and watching them slowly bleed out and the life leave their eyes. I will be waiting for them in my car tonight and see what happens.



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23 Nov 2011, 12:02 am

The only solution I've found for this is to just make become very strong, so you can appear strong. I keep facial hair, partially for this reason, if you have a beard, people psychologically analyze you as being stronger and more masculine. So, I keep a good amount of facial hair for that reason, and I just sorta learned to keep up having a somewhat "tough" sorta Clint Eastwood demeanor.

If they caught me on a good day, I'd probably be able to not care. On a bad day, I don't know anymore. I'd probably be much less rational than I usually am. I have PTSD issues from being incarcerated, so... Yeah... Also, I've practiced more on a punching bag and have started lifting and generally getting stronger. So, on a bad day, yeah, I'm kind of afraid of what might happen if some idiotic kids tried some s**t with me like they used to.

So far, I've not had it really happen lately last serious incident I've had was when I was riding my bike, admittedly on the sidewalk, these kids wouldn't move, I asked kindly for them to move, they refused, and then threw a wooden stake through my bike wheels. After that, when I rode by, they'd make noises and mock me.

Now, after being in jail, I know how to be "tough" a bit better. So one thing I do, I have trouble with eye contact, but what I learned to do was "eye contact checks." Basically, every male you see, challenge them with eye contact, and see who looks away first. Go in the mirror and practice a bit, too, at making a menacing face, and sorta remember it. I've found eye contact checks to be quite helpful, though. I basically only make eye contact with males, as females it's pretty impolite to stare them down. But males, stare them down all you wish. If it's someone that looks shy, etc, be respectful and don't do it to them, but for people who look like potential threats, look them in the eyes until they look away.

The other thing, too, posture. Having good posture makes you look stronger and tougher. If you got bad posture, again, people will assume you're weak. After that, try to get stronger and gain some muscle. I learned a lot more assertiveness in jail, though. Basically, the only like, social filters I got are really simple. I basically only have the capability to go "Does he disrespect me." I can only see things in people respecting me or disrespecting me, due to being in jail. I basically can only analyze people's actions and go "he respects me/disrespects me for ____ reasons."

But, as for those kids, you have to obviously pick your battles. It probably wouldn't have been worth it for you to go to battle with those kids. I have a theory that autistic "bluntness" makes the world really scared of us. Bluntness is basically a cousin of "assertiveness" so once you get toughness plus bluntness, you're unstoppable. I think the world sees that and wants to cut us down, as they sorta know how much potential we have. I remember once, my neighbor's friend called me a fag or something when I wasn't looking, and I just was like "What did you say?" And he was just like "Oh, nothing." I then was like "No really, what did you say?" and he seemed to sorta get scared at that point, and I don't remember much from him after that.

But really, though, don't like, stab them or anything like that. God still loves you. At best, if they come at you, just have a regular fight. Trust me, having been to jail, it's pretty not fun, and any experience like this on the outside is complete cake to what you WILL encounter in jail. But usually, people are cowards if they're confronted directly about their actions. If you were just to walk up to them after finding them, and just calmly go "So you're the ones who shouted at me while I was walking, huh?" they'll likely apologize. Besides, even if you do absolutely nothing, if there's a weapon involved, you're automatically at fault.

But really, don't worry about it. They're teenagers. You really should move to a more civilized country again, though, like, I don't know, Zimbabwe, haha.



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23 Nov 2011, 12:33 am

The funniest one I saw was when I was in high school. Near the high school I went to was a bridge you had to walk across but the bridge was near an intersection. Some guys from school called a girl a whore as she was walking home but when they got to the bridge they got stopped in the middle of the bridge when the red light went off trapping them in a traffic que the girl ran up to the car and wrote in big pink letters p*****s with her lipstick across the side of their car then ran off. There was about thirty kids walking home from school everyone was laughing their asses off. :lol: I would have tore off their antenna or kicked off a side mirror. :twisted:

They just sat there in their car with dumb looks on there halfwit faces as she was writing it. :roll:


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23 Nov 2011, 1:39 am

I've dealt with this kind of behavior too. It's always I'm walking and minding my own business and then someone decides to honk at me and/or curse me out and/or say something that comes off as incoherent for no reason. It does piss me off every time it happens to. The most I do about it have a meltdown. This thread does make me feel better because I've dealt with the same thing and reading about how some posters got even. I should mention I've had a bottle thrown at me once (I'm figuring it was some guy who hated me decided to fling a bottle at me for no reason -- thankfully, I didn't get hurt), and then I remember some stupid kids on their bikes passing me and thought it was funny to scare me by randomly yell at me. Also, a few times I'd had people shouting "RUN RUN RUN!" when I'm running across a street because I didn't want to wait at the center of the street to finish crossing and the don't walk sign is flashing.



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23 Nov 2011, 2:24 am

I wouldn't sweat it too much, this exact thing has happened to me a bunch of times. Some people are just jerks and it's pretty pointless to get upset about it. I've actuallly have gotten drive by compliments too. People just like yelling stuff out of cars.



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23 Nov 2011, 2:30 am

Well I was outside in the park waiting in my car with my 2 huge knives and I am wearing all black and a beanie. I didn't see those idiots after a good hour or so, but I did see another car full of idiots drive by and the girl driving said "Hi" and that was it and she still seemed annoying to me so I responded with: "You are fa***ts!" I think most of the houses on the street could hear through their windows. I said it so loud. I am a singer so I can yell really effing loud. Even one of my friends told me your voice is louder than anyone else I know when you are yelling. As I was walking home from my car the same car turned around and I was standing on the corner and as they turned the corner I flipped them off and I know at least 2 of them or more saw me, but they didn't do jack s**t, they just kept driving away. If they got out of their car and tried to do something, I would have stabbed them where they stood.