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02 May 2011, 1:01 pm

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The neurotypical mechanic will simply recommend the 3000 mile oil change because he believes that's what everyone else is doing.


...or because it increases his bank account. :lol:



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02 May 2011, 1:12 pm

Yes of course more frequent oil changes would increase profits. So why doesn't the mechanic reccommend changing oil every 2000 miles in order to further increase his profits? The answer is simply because very few people will believe that it is necessary to change oil every 2000 miles. The 2000 mile oil change would be a hard sell even among die hard car buffs. It would also be in the mechanics best interest to sell you



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02 May 2011, 1:35 pm

Just to add my own sweeping generalizations to the mix (all personal opinion - if you are looking for some sort of scientific treatise to back this up, move along. Nothing here for you to see... conjecture ahead. ) :

NT's are 'generalized' thinkers. They seek outside input to entertain their brain. The mundane can seem quite interesting when you have nothing else of interest to think about at the moment. Generalized brains are always looking for outside stimulation to keep their brains in motion, to spark new ideas, to entertain, intrigue or fascinate.

AS brains are 'specialized' thinkers. The AS brain already has volumes of information to process that is intriguing and keeps the brain engaged. The specialized brain seeks out external information to further fuel already active internal thought processes. AS brains are always in motion. Unintentional outside input tends to overload the system.



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02 May 2011, 2:55 pm

You mean NT's actually do think? I haven't observed this.


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02 May 2011, 5:25 pm

That is correct, some neurotypical people have even admitted to me that they do not like to think at all. For them all logic arguing and debate is merely an exercise in mental torture. What a neurotypical person likes is that you agree with him and his opinions are all based on social conventions.



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02 May 2011, 8:06 pm

Some of these generalisations are idiotic.
Neurotypicals are not mindless monkeys who just do what everyone else does for no good reason.
People with autism are not above socialising, we are outside the group because we are socially impaired. It can produce the side benefits of being less susceptible to peer pressure and groupthink, but to act as though it's some kind of completely chosen philosophical stance is intellectually dishonest.
Oh, and the human social capacity was a major contributor to our success as a species. FFS, think before you mock.


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03 May 2011, 1:02 am

I'd say the two key differences are 1) difficulty reading nonverbal cues and 2) difficulty with prospective taking (I think this is WAY more accurate than when people say we lack empathy).

Other than that, Aspies are as diverse as NTs in terms of their personalities, interests (although Aspies are more likely to get obsessed with their interests), talents, styles, and preferences.

I go into more detail about my insights on how Aspies think here; http://www.myaspergerslifestory.com/my_ ... rgers.html



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03 May 2011, 1:43 am

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NT's generally love to spend all their time standing around chatting, connecting, making small talk, and gossiping..


I don't, I'm a loner.



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03 May 2011, 1:45 am

Who_Am_I wrote:
Some of these generalisations are idiotic.
Neurotypicals are not mindless monkeys who just do what everyone else does for no good reason.
People with autism are not above socialising, we are outside the group because we are socially impaired. It can produce the side benefits of being less susceptible to peer pressure and groupthink, but to act as though it's some kind of completely chosen philosophical stance is intellectually dishonest.
Oh, and the human social capacity was a major contributor to our success as a species. FFS, think before you mock.


Thanks, you said what was on my mind.



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03 May 2011, 1:49 am

Dasaniman wrote:
i know every personality is different but what about the NT and AS comparison

Personality is a set of traits that define how we respond to external factors such as social, physical or situational etc.
There is no such thing as an autistic or AS personality as they exist across a spectrum of personality types just like they do with NTs.



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03 May 2011, 2:01 am

Autism is defined as a person who exhibits a certain group of behaviors differing from the norm. As far as the actual literal definition of the word is concerned, it does not matter what thought process arrives at those behaviors.



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03 May 2011, 4:22 am

:wink: @previous post; is your special interest car engines and machines? I'm a tad bit jealous now- I wish my special interests had more practical applications like yours.

I learned something new today- I'm going to wait until later in summer for my oil change rather than taking it in tomorrow as I had planned.

Thanks for the tip

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03 May 2011, 11:41 am

While I am a firm believer in extended oil changes I believe this should be aproached with caution. For example trying to go longer while using a cheap oil will probably introduce sludge in your engine. However there are some oils that are guaranteed to last 15,000 miles but you have to follow the instructions printed on the oil bottle.



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29 Nov 2011, 6:19 pm

My honest guess is this:
A lot of us love to argue that NTs are group thinkers while we are individualistic. I do not think that is exactly the case. I believe that autistic individuals do not generally have individualistic personalities, but are stuck in their own tempo, causing them to have trouble with conversation and forcing them to think for themselves using rituals. An AS brain is like a crystal, trapped the way it is yet orderly. A NT brain has a more freestyle quality to it; it's just that a lot of them choose to think as a group.