INTJ or ISTJ?

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Not sure about other DSM defined disorders but if you combine the Myers Briggs type standard indicators with the MBTI thinking-feeling (T-F) gradient spectrum then you would predict a significant number of autistic people would be
a) INTP & INTJ
b) higher on the feeling (F) gradient

b) is tricky because you could stereotype autistic people as cold detached, lacking emapthy and highly rational except they are highly sensitive to the outside environment and other people which puts them firmly in the F-spectrum.

Most do type out as INTJ/P. The sensory issues do come into play, I actually think sensory issues are part of what makes me INTP instead of ISTP, the need to withdraw when everything seems to stimulating.

There are a fair number INFP/J on the spectrum, too. Seems to be seen more commonly among women.

But S = detail oriented and craving for stability, which is AS-like as well.

Nevertheless most aspies are N.

This is what I mean. Maybe someone without AS would be an S type because they crave stability and are detail oriented, but they are able to stay more in-tuned with their environment. In fact, they have a difficult time tuning OUT of their environment, at all.

Most people with AS are N types, so they are withdrawing somewhat but are like S types at the same time. Different root causes for the behavior.

Maybe an ISTx is like an INTx without sensory issues, but an N type still has more insight than an S type could ever have and the ability to focus on details as well. This type is very much unlike the other types, maybe most people with AS do fit into this type naturally but also display distinct traits of other types, which other types would be less likely to display.

An INTx is more similar to an ISTx than an ISTx is to an INTx.

The S factor has a greater hold of an xSxx type than does the N factor of an xNxx, imo. An xNxx has more flexibility, possibly because they developed along a less rigid or even *disordered* path.

I tend to score as ENFJ or INFJ, depending on mood. (An extroverted feeler? Perhaps I should have my AS reassessed. ) I'm always pretty close to the border where extraversion/introversion are concerned, but I'm consistently intuitive, feeling, and judging. That said, I can see why people with AS would disproportionately score as INTJ or ISTJ.

I'm definitely I and T, but only somewhat N and J.

Quite the opposite - I think that without AS I'd be more strongly N; the only S traits I have (being literal and such) are strictly due to AS, while the general xSxx profile hasn't much to do with me.

...However wondering "how I'd be without AS" is quite pointless. I might be an ESFP or something. Or a man in a mack on a flaming pie.

I think ISTJ describes me well, better than ISTP or INTP that I also considered.

When I take the test, I get an ISTJ. It mostly matches me with the exception of being traditional. I consider myself a ISTJ in rebellion. My S score however always ends up low.

I am ISTJ and my wife is INFJ. According to Myers Briggs we should not be married.

in Chinese astrology She is a rat and I am a horse. It also say we should not be together.

In western Astrology, she is a Libra and I am a Cancer. It also so we should not be together.

We have been married for 11.5 Years!

INTJ here. When I first took this test I came out as an ISTJ. Turns out this was because I didn't really understand the questions about S and N. I read the type descriptions in Please Understand Me II and ISTJ didn't really fit. INTJ fit perfectly.

INTJs are supposed to be big picture people while autistics are supposed to be detail oriented and unable to see the big picture. This big picture/detail oriented question shows up on many AS tests. I'm not convinced you have to be one or the other. Why are these assumed to be mutually exclusive traits? Is this another AS myth? I feel I can see the big picture when I need to but I can also be extremely detailed oriented. Early on in my job I was selected to troubleshoot a complex piece of electronics over other people because I was able to focus on the details of how it worked but it was also necessary to understand how the entire thing worked and how it functioned as part of a larger system.

I first discovered AS by reading a thread on an INTJ forum that was discussing how INTJ traits overlap with AS. There was a lot of denial going on from people who scored high on the Aspie Quiz who didn't believe they could possibly have AS. There was also a lot of autistic stereotyping going on. If you could talk, or drive a car, or hold a job, then you couldn't possibly have AS.

I'm INTP, but I "border" on ISTP.

I'm inherently a pragmatist, but my sensory and motor control issues keep me locked in my head.

On other forums, I just tell people I'm ISTP because I've noticed other INTPs tend to be snobs.

INFP but sometimes get an INTP result. I always get a high 'N' score.

I'm a very hard-core ISTJ. All the test score me as that(I score 100% J btw) & most everything I've read about that type applies to me

I tested as INTP (but flip-flops between INTJ and INTP depending on life situations), but one has to be suspicious of the added bias that psycho-neurological abnormalities such as autism and ADHD add to the test. iNtuitives are described as dreamy, big picture, intuitive, not attentive to detail but so are autistics, ADHD, and schizophrenics. I used to think that that Myer-Briggs test was a good model of various personality types, but now I have my doubts. Maybe it applies better for neurotypicals.

Of course, the fact that MBTI personality descriptions are written like astrology does not help with its legitimacy either. Then again, most of psychology is a little bit...iffy... </rant coming from a physical scientist>

My two cents on MBTI - Don't take it too seriously.

Personality types might manifest themselves differently in autistics. Lesser social aspect is expected. In the case of ISTJ:

ISTJs generally have the following traits: (I bolded that DOESN'T apply to me)

Value tradition, security, and peaceful living
Will work long and hard to fulfill duties
Can be depended on to follow through on tasks
Loyal and faithful
Stable, practical and down-to-earth
Family-minded
Dislike doing things which don't make sense to them
Dislike abstract theory, unless they see the practical application
Natural leaders
Prefer to work alone, but work well in teams when necessary
Extremely observant, they take in facts via their senses and store them internally
Vast, rich inner store of facts which they rely on to understand problems which they encounter in their lives
Profound respect for facts and concrete information
Make decisions objectively, applying logic and rational thinking
Dislike change, unless they are shown it's benefit in a concrete way
Have strong opinions about the way things should be done
Appreciate structured, orderly environments
Have very high standards for their own behavior and the behavior of others
Not naturally in-tune with other people's feelings
Able to accomplish almost anything if they put their minds to it
Community minded "good citizens"

I think it comes down to not having good enough Theory of Mind and having ADHD traits (issues with executive functioning).

Possible Career Paths for the ISTJ: (I bolded that DOES apply to me)

Business Executives, Administrators and Managers
Accountants and Financial Officers
Police and Detectives
Judges
Lawyers
Medical Doctors / Dentists
Computer Programmers, Systems Analysts, and Computer Specialists
Military Leaders