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02 Feb 2012, 3:24 pm

Janissy wrote:
I think this is a great idea!! !

My questions ( am an NT parent of an AS child):

Were you self-injurious as a child? Did you grow out of it and have the feeling fade away or did you come up with specific ways to cope so you wouldn't self-injure? If somebody intervened (such as holding your hands) would that be helpful till the feeling passes or would it be even more upsetting?


I was self-injurious as a child, I used to pick holes in the skin on my face (and still do!) My Mum used to tie my hands into cotton gloves at night and it was horrible! I felt very embarrassed and also sad/angry that I couldn't to it.
I don't think it is good to try and stop someone by physical intervention. Loving kindness and if they are able to communicate then I think having an intellectual discussion about it so that they can calmly see another point of view would be good. The way my parents went on at me about it just made me feel like a freak (not their intention probably).
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03 Feb 2012, 2:22 pm

Coming late into this thread, but I guess I can answer some of the questions.
Was I self-injurious? To a minor degree, yes. I picked at my chap lips until they were scarred up pretty bad. I would also stim until I dropped from exhaustion, but otherwise I'm not a head-banger. In both ways that can be taken (Heavy Heavy Metal? NO way. Headache city.)
Do I not admit when I'm wrong? Most of the time, if I realize I made an error. Which can happen mostly in social situations. In a debate situation, now...LOL
And I DO have issues with little white lies. I know why NTs use them, but still find it hard myself.

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05 Feb 2012, 6:17 am

What is the appropriate way to answer if your NT ex-boyfriend texts your in the middle of the night, drunk, telling your that he loves you and misses you, that you're the only one that he wants. That he never felt this way about anyone else. Meanwhile, Iyou have moved on and is dating and in love with a new guy (which, of course, your ex does not know about).

I haven't heard from my ex in months. We broke up because we made each other feel like crap, plus, he's a near-alcoholic student that lives in an apartment that could be on an episode of "how clean is your house". Add to that the fact that I'm not attracted to him anymore.



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06 Feb 2012, 2:49 pm

goundreykruse wrote:
Janissy wrote:
I think this is a great idea!! !

My questions ( am an NT parent of an AS child):

Were you self-injurious as a child? Did you grow out of it and have the feeling fade away or did you come up with specific ways to cope so you wouldn't self-injure? If somebody intervened (such as holding your hands) would that be helpful till the feeling passes or would it be even more upsetting?


I was self-injurious as a child, I used to pick holes in the skin on my face (and still do!) My Mum used to tie my hands into cotton gloves at night and it was horrible! I felt very embarrassed and also sad/angry that I couldn't to it.
I don't think it is good to try and stop someone by physical intervention. Loving kindness and if they are able to communicate then I think having an intellectual discussion about it so that they can calmly see another point of view would be good. The way my parents went on at me about it just made me feel like a freak (not their intention probably).
Hope this helps :?


I agree. Physical intervention only stops the behavior and doesn't help with the stress behind the behavior. In aspies, self distructive behavior is usually a sign of high stress. Just make sure the kid knows that you support him/her and if the kid is old enough, discussing what's so stressful might help. I was self-injurious as a child and still am



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07 Feb 2012, 1:12 am

biologic wrote:
What is the appropriate way to answer if your NT ex-boyfriend texts your in the middle of the night, drunk, telling your that he loves you and misses you, that you're the only one that he wants. That he never felt this way about anyone else. Meanwhile, Iyou have moved on and is dating and in love with a new guy (which, of course, your ex does not know about).

I haven't heard from my ex in months. We broke up because we made each other feel like crap, plus, he's a near-alcoholic student that lives in an apartment that could be on an episode of "how clean is your house". Add to that the fact that I'm not attracted to him anymore.


Ignore the message. Once he sobers up, he'll probably be as mortified by it as you are.



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09 Feb 2012, 8:11 pm

I apologize if this has already been asked. I didn't bother to read through all of the pages.

Question,
What motivates some NTs to pick on and harass aspies? If you see someone who has obvious difficulty communicating appropriately why would you give them a hard time, rather than trying to help them out? Instead of pointing out their flaws and laughing about them, why don't they point out their flaws privately and give a serious suggestion? I mean, try to assist in some way, not just the old "wtf you're a weirdo!"
The majority of NTs don't bully aspires, generally people have been kind to me, but I've had a few experiences where people point out what I'm doing wrong in front of as large group of people.
What would motivate someone to do so?



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13 Feb 2012, 6:38 am

Finally up to the current page :) Thanks everyone for the questions and comments. I'm just wondering when things refer to "eye contact" does that mean the direct uncomfortable eye to eye connection or would it ever refer to just looking at someones face in the general direction of their eyes? Do NTs notice if the person they are talking to is focusing on something very near the eyes but not actually the eyes?



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13 Feb 2012, 2:42 pm

Sometimes they do, but not always. I learned this sometimes useful trick for job interviews a long time ago. Another part of pretending to be "normal"

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13 Feb 2012, 7:58 pm

Hey everyone, im new here, but im an NT and im willing to field some questions some of you may have.



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14 Feb 2012, 5:40 pm

I'm unsure if I can phrase this right. But how do NT's handle jealousy towards other siblings? I mean, my sister is jealous of my house, my car, my style of living, the amount of money I make... my free time.

Its been translating into her talking behind my back and being angry at me in person/snapping at me.

I've been off since Christmas, and she's been angry at me because I'm not running around like a chicken with its head cut off worrying about where my next paycheck is coming from. And since I handled my finances well over the time I was working (I work job to job and get laid off regularly), I'm not stressed. But I often get told I act very arrogant and scare the people I work with/they always try to burn me and/or are afraid of me. I've been told I should make up story's about girls and drinking/or partying and try to fit in with my co-workers to avoid creating enemy's.

Should this be the action I take towards my sister? Such as acting like I'm very worried about money and talk depressed? Or is there a better way of diffusing the situation. It as of yet isn't an issue but yesterday she was very angry at me for no reason/spoke to my mother afterwards about me having a better car (her dad gave her a free one), to which my mom responded "but he's paying for his car still, yours was free"...

But I don't think shes really listening...



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14 Feb 2012, 6:57 pm

I think you're meant to hit her face with the back of your hand. Quite hard.



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14 Feb 2012, 11:52 pm

Nim wrote:
I'm unsure if I can phrase this right. But how do NT's handle jealousy towards other siblings? I mean, my sister is jealous of my house, my car, my style of living, the amount of money I make... my free time.

Its been translating into her talking behind my back and being angry at me in person/snapping at me.

I've been off since Christmas, and she's been angry at me because I'm not running around like a chicken with its head cut off worrying about where my next paycheck is coming from. And since I handled my finances well over the time I was working (I work job to job and get laid off regularly), I'm not stressed. But I often get told I act very arrogant and scare the people I work with/they always try to burn me and/or are afraid of me. I've been told I should make up story's about girls and drinking/or partying and try to fit in with my co-workers to avoid creating enemy's.

Should this be the action I take towards my sister? Such as acting like I'm very worried about money and talk depressed? Or is there a better way of diffusing the situation. It as of yet isn't an issue but yesterday she was very angry at me for no reason/spoke to my mother afterwards about me having a better car (her dad gave her a free one), to which my mom responded "but he's paying for his car still, yours was free"...

But I don't think shes really listening...



Well I dont have any siblings, so im not sure exactly how those interactions fully go about, but honestly your best option would probably be just to get a few minutes to talk to her, and try and explain where your at and that theres no need to worry or be jealous of what you have or might not have. Fraacs idea is pretty good too, lol.



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22 Feb 2012, 3:01 am

For any NTs (or aspies) still around:

What does an NT want out of a friendship. A couple of NTs have over the course of many interactions indicated that this is the beginning of a freindship with me, what do I need to do to make this work?

My only other friends are interest based in that we meet together to do something specific in a club/group setting, I would like more friends and we have got along well enough but now the common activity with these two NTs (they are seperate (dont have anything to do with eachother) - two groups of two not one group of three) is finished but they have indicated they still would like to 'catch up', meet up, do stuff etc with me. I dont really know what is involved to make a friendship that is not based on a shared activity work and would appreciate any advice/explanations.



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22 Feb 2012, 3:13 am

Cogs wrote:
For any NTs (or aspies) still around:

What does an NT want out of a friendship. A couple of NTs have over the course of many interactions indicated that this is the beginning of a freindship with me, what do I need to do to make this work?

My only other friends are interest based in that we meet together to do something specific in a club/group setting, I would like more friends and we have got along well enough but now the common activity with these two NTs (they are seperate (dont have anything to do with eachother) - two groups of two not one group of three) is finished but they have indicated they still would like to 'catch up', meet up, do stuff etc with me. I dont really know what is involved to make a friendship that is not based on a shared activity work and would appreciate any advice/explanations.


You read my mind. I have a friend (he's like 55), which has been my boss on many occasions at work. Now that we're out of work he wants to hang out - which seems to be just what he wants. Whether it be going to the dump, or having steaks, or from what he's telling me now - to take me "shooting" since I've never fired a gun. But over the course of the years I guess I've become like a son to him - which is how he treats me now. But with people my own age I've always noticed they have no stability. They call asking for favors like money or to move in with you.... irrational, unappealing. I'd be curious what it means to have a buddy... But I've never been that successful with people my own age.



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24 Feb 2012, 2:46 am

Honestly, friends are not something normally looked for. Most of the time, basically all of my friends right now all share common interests with me which is why they are my friends. Staying friends is basically just as easy as talking somewhat regularly hanging out occasionally, it may be a bit different because im in college and see them almost every day but, the hanging out i referred to is out of school kind of hanging out.



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26 Feb 2012, 11:49 pm

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Question for Aspies please.

How can I tell the difference between:
a) When an AS person overloaded and needs to be left alone
b) When the AS person won't speak to me because he is angry with me?

Also, if the AS person is angry with me should I try to leave them alone or should I try to talk to him about it?


When an AS person is overloaded, I think there will be signs of anxiety like ticks, playing with hands or fingers, etc. And the person will talk to you but will seem dismissive.

When an AS person is angry, like REALLY angry, they will do their best to not talk at all. This is how I am at least. I just got fired from a job because of this I think. I was Really mad at the new manager, and I told him the necessary information politely, but he kept trying to talk to me and he took my silence as an insult I believe. When I get mad like that though its hard to talk and move. I may shake even. But if I do talk it will be horrible for the receiver.

If an AS person is angry definitely leave them alone.