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03 Mar 2012, 11:48 pm

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Feeling incredibly depressed and lethargic today so bear with me on putting documents on you tube. Hoping to snap myself out of this by tomorrow Sunday.



Mr. Vincent, what IS your goal ? is it simply to restore services back to you and your mum or is it to have those( who you have filed law suits against) brought to justice through the court system or both ?

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05 Mar 2012, 5:15 am

I think it might help if other Aspies who live nearby to those suffering these sort of problems could go along in person and be a witness or even an advocate who is independent, in dealing with these people. It helps to show them that we're not alone. If I could afford the train fare to Doncaster I'd be glad to have a go!



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05 Mar 2012, 1:53 pm

Pianorak that is so kind of you. Might ask Mum to send you some money. REALLY SCARED NOW.... 7 of my best video's on you tube have been removed!! 22.12.2012 MIND/RETHINK meeting at my house 2 days before my Mum's heart attack on Christmas Eve.... Mum did wonderful explaining in video in a way better way than I can what is happening to us, how badly affected we had become, was also my most calmest video.... also proves what support was legally committed to be provided from 3rd Jan 2012.... considering how good you tube usually is for freedom of expression etc this has really shocked Mum and I terribly. For sure we are being set up as it would take very high up senior organisations to get a you tube video removed, especially one with nothing wrong in it and to my Mum's and I favour.

TheSunAlsoRises Want both plus to expose what is happening to Mum and I, plus the extent of how far public authorities will go to cover all this up as my deaf communication system records verbatim what they are really like. Trying desperately to be calm and not freak out to much, this really is an epic scandal.... I also believe I can expose that it is a lie and a myth that disabled people in England have legal protection and that the legal services commission, community legal services actively collude to make sure no disabled person can truly legally fight back.

It takes a LOT to scare me and for me to openly say I'm scared..... thought I'd gone past being scared but phew... this is serious poo what is happening to Mum and I. This is EXTREME time and just uploaded this vid of Mum and I done about an hour ago stating how we feel about video being removed. We nearly cry so sorry about that and with my speech impediment, try and see what I am desperately trying to say please. Pianorak that is so kind of you. Might ask Mum to send you some money. REALLY SCARED NOW.... 7 of my best video's on you tube have been removed!! 22.12.2012 MIND/RETHINK meeting at my house 2 days before my Mum's heart attack on Christmas Eve.... Mum did wonderful explaining in video in a way better way than I can what is happening to us, how badly affected we had become, was also my most calmest video.... also proves what support was legally committed to be provided from 3rd Jan 2012.... considering how good you tube usually is for freedom of expression etc this has really shocked Mum and I terribly. For sure we are being set up as it would take very high up senior organisations to get a you tube video removed, especially one with nothing wrong in it and to my Mum's and I favour.

It takes a LOT to scare me and for me to openly say I'm scared..... thought I'd gone past being scared but phew... this is serious poo what is happening to Mum and I. This is EXTREME time and just uploaded this vid of Mum and I done about an hour ago stating how we feel about video being removed. We nearly cry so sorry about that and with my speech impediment, try and see what I am desperately trying to say please. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APZ5m2nCJ9s
This one is South Yorkshire Police harassing us on 13.2.2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgaXuJroDYw My comments on you tube explain a lot
Mum and I REALLY are being set up and that's why I was so desperate to do all this in the first place.



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05 Mar 2012, 4:10 pm

Finally, you tube link for how my deaf verbatim text relay system works from page 4 onwards. Please try and see the bigger picture of this mess as it is the same system I have of the majority of England's public authorities.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9a54NGveL4



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05 Mar 2012, 4:13 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9a54NGveL4

Page 4 onwards demonstrates how my system works. This is mainly what it's all about as I can prove the true face of so many public authorities in England and I want to go as far as use my evidence but we get blocked no matter what we do and paying a very high price. Mum and I cannot do this on our own anymore and ALL services have been unlawfully denied to Mum and I. Please help, there MUST be a way.



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05 Mar 2012, 4:31 pm

i combined your new thread with this thread as it is not a new topic but is a continuation of the same discussion


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05 Mar 2012, 11:54 pm

HYPERLEXIAN please I beg you. Put my new thread up. I can't sleep and have been vomiting. Mum and I are really that scared. Please put it back as people won't realise it's how I finally learnt how to put example of how my deaf recorded system works and then it will get lost.

Please, so much has happened to get to this point, please, put it back, please.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=APZ5m2nCJ9s Mum and I yesterday March 5th 2012 after you tube remove best video of rethink 22.12.2011 meeting proving a lot.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9a54NGveL4 how my deaf system works.... please imagine I have this on all the major public authorities in England showing their true face, they want to shut Mum and I down.



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05 Mar 2012, 11:57 pm

no, that would be spamming. you put exactly the same information in this thread and the new one. this one already says "EMERGENCY" on it so i think people get the idea.

i would strongly suggest that you may want to call a crisis support line because you are so distressed. i hope that things will go better for you and that this issue gets resolved.


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06 Mar 2012, 12:19 am

HYPERLEXIAN I just did a silent scream this is cruel of you and unfair of you, please see the bigger picture. it is not the same Please Mum and I have been manipulated to a cruel and extreme end. I tried to call crisis last year but didn't know how to use it AND they just forward me back to the doncaster community adult learning disability team who are hurting Mum and I. This is major scandal. Major vulnerable adult abuse originating by many organisations within Doncaster Council then all the health departments Doncaster NHS, RDASH, Autism Teams, because my recorded calls prove so much.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9a54NGveL4 how my deaf system works.... please imagine I have this on all the major public authorities in England showing their true face, they want to shut Mum and I down.



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06 Mar 2012, 12:48 am

@AV: Hyper knows what she is doing. Spamming is not allowed.

While your life may be in crisis, the situation does not seem to be an emergency - one that poses an immediate risk to health, life, property or environment. Please contact a crisis support line, explain your situation calmly and rationally, and try to resolve your situation through them.

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06 Mar 2012, 12:54 am

ARGH FNORD YOU ! !! ! ARGH ARGH ARGH ARGH ARGH ARGH ARGH ARGH ARGH ! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !

jUST PUT A GUN TO MUM'S AND OUR HEAD AND HAVE IT DONE WITH ! ! JUST SET UP CONCENTRATION CAMP IN ENGLAND FOR DISABLED GET IT OVER WITH ! !



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06 Mar 2012, 1:32 am

AllenVincent wrote:
ARGH FNORD YOU ! !! ! ARGH ARGH ARGH ARGH ARGH ARGH ARGH ARGH ARGH ! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !

jUST PUT A GUN TO MUM'S AND OUR HEAD AND HAVE IT DONE WITH ! ! JUST SET UP CONCENTRATION CAMP IN ENGLAND FOR DISABLED GET IT OVER WITH ! !



The problem IS that you have filed law suits and claims against all those who are in a position to help you. As a consequence, you are well known among authorities and no one is taking you seriously, now. You need to discuss your situation with a mediator and calmly review any viable options so THAT you can get vital services restored.

http://www.lama.on.ca/

Good Luck.

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06 Mar 2012, 1:45 am

I really really want to die, this is to much. Those of you taking all this at face value are doing the same damage to Mum and I as the public authorities. A community care solicitor has already confirmed what is happening to Mum and I is illegal but even she shut down on me.

I have only done ONE lawsuit!! ONE, that's all ONE so that's extreme unlawful victimisation. the reason Mum and I are being badly treated is because I understand disability discrimination laws, bad services etc etc and I have the added bonus of my recorded deaf system that records everything that has happened so I can prove their lies, unprofessional misconducts. I was assured an aspergers/deaf personal assistant/support work over one and a half years ago just before I was unlawfully dismissed from Doncaster Nissan when I was diagnosed with aspergers syndrome and dyspraxia. I don't even have a doctor as I was removed from register at st vincents practice when I made disability discrimination complaint and I even had medical documents of when I was 4 and 5 ripped out by my Doctor ! ! Why is it so shocking that I wish those that have harmed Mum and I intentionally to be sacked and to face criminal charges for vulnerable adult abuse, especially when they are trained and should know better!! !!

My Dad died 2009, Mum could die any day from this. Why can't some of you not understand that no matter what Mum or I do, we get unlawfully swept under the carpet and ultimately I am trying to do something good for ALL of us as I can prove how far public authorities will go to cover up scandals and that disabled people in England really don't have a chance on their own. Please only helpful altruistic postings back, please because I'm cracking up and so is Mum. The best video I had up of 22.12.2011 MIND/RETHINK meeting at my house has been removed by you tube and that has really shocked me as it proved what support they were going to start on 3rd Jan 2012 and Mum was strong enough then to explain what was happening to us.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9a54NGveL4 how my recorded system works.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APZ5m2nCJ9s Please listen to my Mum *** will anyone do msn video call with my Mum please? ***



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06 Mar 2012, 5:05 am

I've just seen your video "5th March 2012 our response to distressing news that U tube remove vital 22 12 2011 MIND RETHINK". You and your Mum come across as intelligent, genuine and definitely NOT crazy. Don't listen to your detractors. All that paperwork you're being sent is nothing short of abuse, I would say to the extent of torture. What is that if not an emergency! I and my family have experienced almost exactly the same as what you describe, only I think you have researched and dealt with it better than I did.

I'd like to suggest raising a petition. You might have a better idea than me, but I think there is a website specialising in online petitions. You could then advertise it on WP and elsewhere and then send it to the local council or whoever you think is best placed to deal with it.



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06 Mar 2012, 5:50 am

You might not like my answer... sorry if it's a bit long and unwieldy.

As others have already said, the people who you accuse of being unlawful are the very people who are supposed to help you. No matter how unlawful you think they might have been, they hold the power, not you. People in power, unfortunately, don't take kindly to being exposed, sued or accused of anything.

You're deaf? You have a beautiful speaking voice and can express yourself extremely well. I had absolutely no trouble understanding what you were saying. You also write very well. Both are very much in your favour!

What I'm going to suggest is that you can achieve much more with honey than with vinegar, meaning that if you approach people to be your advocate in this situation, whether an organisation or another person, or you make a direct approach, it has to be calmly, kindly and ONLY with the goal of getting the services you need. It can't be about revenge or accusations. It has to be about you not understanding why you can't get what you think is your right.

If you are vomiting, and so clearly anxious (rightly or wrongly), and you're calling this an emergency, others may not see it this way. Clearly you are worried, but are you coming across as desperate or aggressive?

You clearly have a roof over your head. Do you have enough food? What exactly is the emergency? You might think it's an emergency, but others may not. See what I mean? I'm not being unkind, just looking at it from another perspective.

What's the goal? To sue them or bring charges against them and still not get what you need? Or is it more important to get the services you need?

I'm wondering if there's a reason you are not getting what you need. What are their reasons for refusing what you think is your right as a disabled person? I would want that in writing. So maybe write some very calm letters asking for an explanation of refusal of service.

Is there some kind of Ombudsman you can go to, or a mediator for the various departments? I would be calling or writing to them asking for the services you need. Not in an accusatory manner, just sound bewildered that you can't seem to get some help, and even that you seem to be misunderstood. You can't let your anger show through, or accuse people - it doesn't achieve much, as you've seen. It actually works against you.

Why are they refusing you service? Do they have a lawful reason? Approach this calmly. Look at things from their perspective and see what you would do if you were them dealing with someone who accuses them of wrongdoing?

Life is not fair, no matter whether you think it should be or not. It is unfair for many people every single day. You have to find a way around it, calmly, nicely and persistently. Think laterally... maybe there's an avenue you haven't tried yet? Or approach it differently.

You have to have the outcome in mind - getting the services you need.

If you have to apologise to the people you've been accusing (no matter what terrible things they did), just to get services, then you may have to do so, much as that seems awful. Just explain how distraught you are and that you don't have the skills to know how to do this properly. Who cares if that's true or not? Think of the goal - to get services. It's a game of sorts and you have to have a winning strategy. A different one than you've had to date.

I would be putting all thoughts of lawsuits aside for the moment. It's far more important to get services you are entitled to, than to go through a protracted court case with an unknown outcome. That doesn't mean you shouldn't be angry at what's happened to you, but you can't show that when dealing with them. You will achieve much more being kind and professional, no matter how unfair it seems. Engendering sympathy and empathy may get you further. Getting your anger and anxiety calmed totally could be the key.

Unproven (in court) accusations, while naming names could land you in court for defamation. I think the people you accuse, may have every right to request incriminating evidence (in videos) be taken down, especially when they are unproven in court, or if there's a court case pending.

Anyone can report any video to YouTube, with a good enough reason and YouTube will take it down if the reason is good enough for them.

Try to ask for an official reason why they won't help you, on paper (or recorded). Then you'll have something to take to someone higher up and something for them to work on. Maybe it's because you come across as intelligent, able to speak for yourself and knowledgeable about what's going on, that someone is deciding you don't need a particular service. Or maybe it's about quotas and them not having resources to help, and nothing to do with you. I don't know.

Be clear about what services you want, and if it's your right to receive them, be persistent, but with a different approach, or find someone who would be willing to advocate for you. I would, gladly, but I'm in Australia, so that isn't practical.

Good luck and let us know what happens.


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06 Mar 2012, 10:43 am

@AV: What exactly do you expect us to do for you? Please be specific.