Knowing what you should be doing, but rarely doing it

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13 Mar 2012, 6:57 am

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13 Mar 2012, 7:10 am

I do... generally if I cant find a logical conscious motivator then I generally have a tough time bringing myself to do things. Usually one of the things I do to help myself with that is that I force myself to do things that my brain resists doing. (not all things, just some)... sort of like trying out a new flavor of jelly bean that sounds gross but you feel that you should try it just in case it tastes ok and then you could say that you tried it... Its a similar sort of push to make things happen.

When it works (about 30% of the time) then I will get something done a single time... The key is to find ways to train my brain to consider the payoff worth the effort. If there isn't the conscious logic as to why I need to complete a task then I will not repetitively do it. (this doesn't count stims and interests, which I guess the payoff for those would be the feeling and comfort? so I guess they kind of do have a payoff/logical return)


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13 Mar 2012, 7:58 am

This issue is the one thing I dislike most about myself. It's comforting to know I'm not the only one.


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13 Mar 2012, 8:15 am

Oh yes. I can definitely relate. I rarely feel motivated, and it keeps me from doing the things I really want to do.



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13 Mar 2012, 12:57 pm

I have this too, but I think a lot of people do. Often I get friends that say ''oh I will phone you next week'', and then six weeks go by before they actually phone, and they usually say they been busy but it's not always the honest reason. It's just that time flies by so quickly that you realise you haven't done something you should have done weeks ago.

This is why I don't like having too much pressure at home. Being busy and expected to do more at work is fine, but once I get home, I like to shut my mind off of the real world and pleasure myself in doing fun things what I want to do. Even if something will only take five minutes, I still always leave it to the very last minute then I find I'm rushing around. Usually my mum's like, ''you had four weeks to do such a simple task!'', but I find that the longer time I have, the more I will leave it to the last minute. On the first week I think, ''no, I won't do it straight away, I've got four weeks yet!'' then the second week I think about it every day but keep saying ''nah, maybe tomorrow'', then the third week I kind of forget about it completely, then the forth week I think about it again and I go to do it but get distracted onto something else and think, ''oh I'll do it later'', then I end up just doing it at the very last minute.

But I think that is rather common. I've often been able to relate to NTs over this kind of thing. :)


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13 Mar 2012, 1:55 pm

Joe90 wrote:
I have this too, but I think a lot of people do. Often I get friends that say ''oh I will phone you next week'', and then six weeks go by before they actually phone, and they usually say they been busy but it's not always the honest reason. It's just that time flies by so quickly that you realise you haven't done something you should have done weeks ago.

This is why I don't like having too much pressure at home. Being busy and expected to do more at work is fine, but once I get home, I like to shut my mind off of the real world and pleasure myself in doing fun things what I want to do. Even if something will only take five minutes, I still always leave it to the very last minute then I find I'm rushing around. Usually my mum's like, ''you had four weeks to do such a simple task!'', but I find that the longer time I have, the more I will leave it to the last minute. On the first week I think, ''no, I won't do it straight away, I've got four weeks yet!'' then the second week I think about it every day but keep saying ''nah, maybe tomorrow'', then the third week I kind of forget about it completely, then the forth week I think about it again and I go to do it but get distracted onto something else and think, ''oh I'll do it later'', then I end up just doing it at the very last minute.

But I think that is rather common. I've often been able to relate to NTs over this kind of thing. :)


I think its pretty common for anybody to procrastinate sometimes, but I think we generally do it on a much larger scale. Or at least, I seem to procrastinate on pretty much anything.



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13 Mar 2012, 4:14 pm

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I have this too, but I think a lot of people do. Often I get friends that say ''oh I will phone you next week'', and then six weeks go by before they actually phone, and they usually say they been busy but it's not always the honest reason. It's just that time flies by so quickly that you realise you haven't done something you should have done weeks ago.

This is why I don't like having too much pressure at home. Being busy and expected to do more at work is fine, but once I get home, I like to shut my mind off of the real world and pleasure myself in doing fun things what I want to do. Even if something will only take five minutes, I still always leave it to the very last minute then I find I'm rushing around. Usually my mum's like, ''you had four weeks to do such a simple task!'', but I find that the longer time I have, the more I will leave it to the last minute. On the first week I think, ''no, I won't do it straight away, I've got four weeks yet!'' then the second week I think about it every day but keep saying ''nah, maybe tomorrow'', then the third week I kind of forget about it completely, then the forth week I think about it again and I go to do it but get distracted onto something else and think, ''oh I'll do it later'', then I end up just doing it at the very last minute.

But I think that is rather common. I've often been able to relate to NTs over this kind of thing. :)


I think its pretty common for anybody to procrastinate sometimes, but I think we generally do it on a much larger scale. Or at least, I seem to procrastinate on pretty much anything.


Yeah, that's true. It's more extreme with me and it seems to be mixed in with my general personality and thoughts.


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13 Mar 2012, 8:20 pm

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Yes. I spend a lot of time feeling bothered by all the things I feel I should be doing.

How to fix it? One thing I do is to try to think about why I'm getting that feeling. I try to ask myself whether I really should do that thing or not........to see if there could be a valid reason for the avoidance that I haven't put into words yet. For example, the task might involve risks that I haven't really looked at - risks of social rejection (asking to be with somebody), risks of wasting time (starting a project that might have no useful, practical result, or one that I might not be able to complete), risks of losing financial or emotional investment, etc. I might simply fear being sucked into a fascinating but lonely project which will stall my social progress. Once I've cast some light on my misgivings about the task, I'm in a better position to decide whether I really should do the thing or not, and if I then decide to go ahead, I usually find it's a lot easier to make a start.

I agree that executive disfunction has a lot to do with procrastination for Aspies. I try to train myself to pull out of the detail and look at the big picture occasionally, but it's not easy. Even when I'm just trying to briefly describe what I'm trying to do, or to tell a friend what I've just achieved, it's often very difficult for me to just come out with a couple of sentences that cover the basic idea....mostly I start woffling on about the minute details instead, and the overview remains ignored. But if I really focus and apply myself fully to it, sometimes I can nail it.


I always think about how important the task is and by default do get anxiety over what horrible thing may happen if I socialise or get a job. But a very strange thing happens to me, I will go to a task and be unable to do it. I'll feel restless or even just sluggish and unfocused and then I'll remember there's this one task I've been putting off. Then I do and go back to the task I struggled with so much and I can do it now. This happens to me so much. It interferes with writing. If I haven't read from a book in awhile my brain will not allow me to continue until I do it. It seems to know the important tasks and pull me towards them by making me feel like I can't do anything.
Medication actually makes this pull greater even if I'm able to focus on most things while on it.


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13 Mar 2012, 8:37 pm

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I have this too, but I think a lot of people do. Often I get friends that say ''oh I will phone you next week'', and then six weeks go by before they actually phone, and they usually say they been busy but it's not always the honest reason. It's just that time flies by so quickly that you realise you haven't done something you should have done weeks ago.

This is why I don't like having too much pressure at home. Being busy and expected to do more at work is fine, but once I get home, I like to shut my mind off of the real world and pleasure myself in doing fun things what I want to do. Even if something will only take five minutes, I still always leave it to the very last minute then I find I'm rushing around. Usually my mum's like, ''you had four weeks to do such a simple task!'', but I find that the longer time I have, the more I will leave it to the last minute. On the first week I think, ''no, I won't do it straight away, I've got four weeks yet!'' then the second week I think about it every day but keep saying ''nah, maybe tomorrow'', then the third week I kind of forget about it completely, then the forth week I think about it again and I go to do it but get distracted onto something else and think, ''oh I'll do it later'', then I end up just doing it at the very last minute.

But I think that is rather common. I've often been able to relate to NTs over this kind of thing. :)


Yes, everyone procrastinates but the difference between autism/ADHD procrastination is the severity of it. When you've got ADHD and you really want to get things done and remember things you feel like a failure every time because you are trying so hard to avoid these symptoms. NT's don't care, they can deal with it. If they actually took more time to organise themselves they would do much better because they have the right chemicals being released naturally and have a typically developing brain. They have no excuse unless they truly have executive dysfunction and need medication or extra supports to be able to get some control over it.

In ADHD there's the hyperfocus part and unable to shift attention unless suddenly you do switch attention but it's usually on just another time wasting thing.
When you do this pretty much every day it can really cause problems.

In summary: This 'doesn't everyone do that' comment is an insult to those of us dependent on medication, strict diets, exercise routines and lists list lists to be able to control our focus, our motivation and either trying to start a task or sit down long enough to see if we are capable of focusing in the first place. Not to mention emotional regulation.

I have both monotropism and polytropism. In fact my monotropism is so bad I have made sure all my interests help me with research and all the ones that don't are those short lasting interests that last me about an hour or less. Looking at my browser tabs at the end of a day is like looking back in history. I have like 20 or 30 open on subjects I don't even remember taking an interest in.


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13 Mar 2012, 9:13 pm

Yes, I'm aware of what I should be doing, what a "normal" person would do. In some cases I'm overwhelmed by anxiety, often I'm just not motivated to do it. When I was younger I thought that things like getting a job or getting married were just things that happened to everybody but I never seemed to get on that path.



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14 Mar 2012, 2:15 am

I read the the Wikipedia page on Executive Dysfunction :o , it is very informative and objective, I have not a single relevant doubt in my mind this is what afflicts me, I have got AS, ADHD, OCD and Tourette's Syndrome; all mentioned there as conditions related to Executive Dysfunction. I find it rather odd that I would find this relieving, I guess at least now I know what I am dealing with, that's always made me feel better.



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14 Mar 2012, 7:50 am

That's what I meant - with me it has become an issue because it makes it difficult when on job-seekers.

I'm always on the internet on my laptop, yet I hardly go on the job sites, even though it won't take much more than 5 minutes. And when I do go on the job sites, I'm not fully paying attention and I just scroll through the job and making up excuses for every job I see. No, it's not laziness, it's just that I find it very difficult. Looking for jobs makes me anxious anyway, and I avoid the ones where you have to call telephone numbers because I hate giving my details over the phone. But I do have a personal employment advisor who comes out once every fortnight to help me look for jobs and apply. It's just something I need help with.

And I know with NTs they don't all actually need help to do a small task online or any other chore, unless they have some psychological dysfunction that makes it difficult for them but I'm just talking about the general population here, but I can still relate to them when talking about this sort of thing, if you know what I mean. Mine might be for different reasons but to them it is not considered ''weird''.


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That's what I meant - with me it has become an issue because it makes it difficult when on job-seekers.

I'm always on the internet on my laptop, yet I hardly go on the job sites, even though it won't take much more than 5 minutes. And when I do go on the job sites, I'm not fully paying attention and I just scroll through the job and making up excuses for every job I see. No, it's not laziness, it's just that I find it very difficult. Looking for jobs makes me anxious anyway, and I avoid the ones where you have to call telephone numbers because I hate giving my details over the phone. But I do have a personal employment advisor who comes out once every fortnight to help me look for jobs and apply. It's just something I need help with.

And I know with NTs they don't all actually need help to do a small task online or any other chore, unless they have some psychological dysfunction that makes it difficult for them but I'm just talking about the general population here, but I can still relate to them when talking about this sort of thing, if you know what I mean. Mine might be for different reasons but to them it is not considered ''weird''.

I know what you mean but many use that explanation to deny ADHD is a real disorder, many of whom are probably undiagnosed. Just when NT's try to relate to our symptoms it's like they are saying it's no big deal because they can cope. I know there's another side to it, like people want to relate to our symptoms to make us feel better but it rarely works out that way.


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15 Mar 2012, 4:17 am

I do this a lot and I'm guessing it's a combination of fear of failing, especially intellectually, not knowing how to start, and routines and habits taking up a lot of time. It makes me quite angry at myself due to my tendency to plan things and then procrastinate my way to failing to follow them.



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15 Mar 2012, 2:31 pm

Right now I should be writing an essay for Philosophy, so yes, I do it all the time. My whole life consists of avoiding as much as possible.

Philosophy in particular bothers me because I really find it interesting, but I cannot make sense of it the way I should do.

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Me too. I simply don't see the point. I don't see how it will help me really.

Ultimately I've always ended up getting a job out of fear, fear of living on the streets, of death ultimately. I haven't enjoyed any job I've ever had. I just don't want to die.

This is why I signed up for university. I don't know what I am supposed to do after that, I don't even know how I am supposed to write 6 papers and my Bachelor paper in one semester... I don't think it's possible, but I am forced to do it. I have one semester until I'll know whether I should really carry on or not. ^^

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People with autism actually need to want to do something. This does make sense as it's seen as having limited interests that they don't want to stop. I have that feeling about my writing and my sci-fi shows when thinking about socialising or even getting a job. But I also have the problem where when I want to complete a task I really don't want to do but have to that I would waste time doing something that doesn't have as many steps involved and offers instant gratification.

People with autism can actually be great organisers when they decide to be but it's that intense focus on other things that stops that from happening.

I wonder if I got that right?

I actually went off at someone who said that but I have both autism and ADHD so I only know what I experience.

I'm really hoping that there is a job that fits me because I fail at fitting myself into jobs. As soon as I try to look for a job, I get paranoid and I usually end up crying. ^^ I don't know how I am supposed to do it and I know I'll be hopeless anyway, so I have nothing positive to associate with it.

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You might want to look up autistic inertia too. For myself personally, a lifetime of being unable to set goals or to carry out what was expected of me has resulted in low self esteem, which just exacerbates the problem.

That is exactly what it is all about. People have told me to be more positive about myself, but how to do that if everytime I try to do something, I fail?


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15 Mar 2012, 2:35 pm

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Yes, I'm aware of what I should be doing, what a "normal" person would do. In some cases I'm overwhelmed by anxiety, often I'm just not motivated to do it. When I was younger I thought that things like getting a job or getting married were just things that happened to everybody but I never seemed to get on that path.

My mother never understood how I could not do certain things. If she really wanted to know, I'd probably tell her that I have found life only confusing and the only things that I really enjoy exist in my mind. ^^

Ugh, marriage. I hope I'll never be there. Marriage and getting a job seem so alien to me. Although I'd actually like a job. A job I'm "good" at. ^^

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That's what I meant - with me it has become an issue because it makes it difficult when on job-seekers.

I'm always on the internet on my laptop, yet I hardly go on the job sites, even though it won't take much more than 5 minutes. And when I do go on the job sites, I'm not fully paying attention and I just scroll through the job and making up excuses for every job I see. No, it's not laziness, it's just that I find it very difficult. Looking for jobs makes me anxious anyway, and I avoid the ones where you have to call telephone numbers because I hate giving my details over the phone. But I do have a personal employment advisor who comes out once every fortnight to help me look for jobs and apply. It's just something I need help with.

And I know with NTs they don't all actually need help to do a small task online or any other chore, unless they have some psychological dysfunction that makes it difficult for them but I'm just talking about the general population here, but I can still relate to them when talking about this sort of thing, if you know what I mean. Mine might be for different reasons but to them it is not considered ''weird''.

This is me when I am looking for jobs online. The thought of most of the jobs on offer alone makes me want to throw up.


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