What are the best country to live with Asperger?

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10 Nov 2011, 5:37 pm

Not the UK - that's for sure. Adults affected with mild conditions are pushed out and left to get on with it, simply because the demented bastard called David Cameron has to cut our health services and you can't get them unless you're rich or foreign (or have a severe disability). No, I'm not being racist against anybody, because it's true and he's actually being racist by pushing British people to the back of the list when we're in our own country.

It's hell living here in this day and age, I don't mind telling you.


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10 Nov 2011, 9:39 pm

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If you're looking to live in the U.S., avoid the Bible Belt and the Midwest areas (particularly Indiana). Stick with coastal cities, possibly the more liberal areas. You don't have to live anywhere particularly busy but rural areas will probably be far more inconvenient. Cities can be convenient if you can just walk to everywhere that you frequently need to go.


Growing up in Southern CA, I would saying "growing up" in a coastal area like SOCAL is probably worse. If you aren't one of the "skater" types or "jock" types you probably aren't going to have friends.....at least that was my experience. As far as outward appearances and clothes, there seems to be a more narrow view of what is "cool"

I have heard that coastal areas are more superficial unless its Santa Cruz and San Francisco, and there are enough homless dreadlocked bums and other annoying hippie people and annoying feminist/alternative people.

Santa Cruz is probably the most AS friendly city in CA at least that I think and I have been there alot of times. Just a different feel about it, and it is quite beautiful along with the surround areas and not far from the woods.



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11 Nov 2011, 6:46 am

I grew up in SoCal, too. You must be from a boring suburb like I am. If you know where to go, it can be a world of difference. With that said, the Bay Area would be better for anybody who is 'different.'



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11 Nov 2011, 12:10 pm

Born in Scotland, miserable childhood, moved to England, miserable adulthood till age 30 when i got diagnosed as being different....3 yrs later I am finally getting rid of all the people who hurt me because they didnt understand me and now i know myself better i am happier in my own skin and people now know what is up with me so tend to make allowances (and judge?) for me.....

To be honest i spend more and more time on my own which is probably not ideal but after losing so many jobs (with some successes) and losing chics and friends i have come to the point where my self acceptance makes me wanna spend more and more time on my own or with kind people who accept me and dont judge me.

I hate judgemental people they really pee me off and the whole world is pretty ignorant.

U want a good place to live with ASD? Try the moon.

Cant we all unite and take over the world then persecute the "normal" people who dont have a clue who they are or what life is all about?

I consider ASD as a priveledge, maybe the anxiety/paranoia and weirdness aint great however my thoughts are inspired and seriously on a higher level than your bog standard human....

ASPIES UNITE!



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12 Nov 2011, 5:12 am

Not Great Britain!



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12 Nov 2011, 5:43 am

Not Taiwan.. :(



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12 Nov 2011, 8:50 am

Been living in the US for almost 20 years and am now living in France since October 2010.

From my little experience (for whatever it's worth), I find the US (specifically Seattle where I lived) to be more not necessarily from Aspie friendly but more tolerable compared to France. Seattle people tend to be cold and indifferent to one another and i am fine with that. I like going through my regular routine uninterrupted and like to complete what I do without having to small talk for 20 minutes over nothing. Generally speaking America is the land of individuality and many may be labelled as weird or geeks, those groups are more prevalent and diversity is a concept that more accepted.

In France, on the other hand, social norms are to be practiced and people ostracize you if you don't abide or conform to them. Things like shaking hands and kissing cheek to cheek when greeting, making small talk about nothing, and acting like immature teenagers seems to be accepted no matter age you are. I have been called "mechant" (mean) and arrogant for not wanting to partake in any of those trivial activities. What I can do? I am what I am. but oh well...



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23 Nov 2011, 7:12 am

9512 wrote:
Been living in the US for almost 20 years and am now living in France since October 2010.

From my little experience (for whatever it's worth), I find the US (specifically Seattle where I lived) to be more not necessarily from Aspie friendly but more tolerable compared to France. Seattle people tend to be cold and indifferent to one another and i am fine with that. I like going through my regular routine uninterrupted and like to complete what I do without having to small talk for 20 minutes over nothing. Generally speaking America is the land of individuality and many may be labelled as weird or geeks, those groups are more prevalent and diversity is a concept that more accepted.

In France, on the other hand, social norms are to be practiced and people ostracize you if you don't abide or conform to them. Things like shaking hands and kissing cheek to cheek when greeting, making small talk about nothing, and acting like immature teenagers seems to be accepted no matter age you are. I have been called "mechant" (mean) and arrogant for not wanting to partake in any of those trivial activities. What I can do? I am what I am. but oh well...


I´m French and I can relate to this. People genarelly don´t let you be yourself, are extermly jugmental and are often mean because they think that you are mean. They are very touchy. They generally don´t accept alternative thinking. They very often use figurative sence in a very non obvious way, they rarely try to understand fully what you try to say to them, the way they communicate is often loose and they get annoyed if you ask them about what they say to understand it better. They also very often interupt you when you speak which I find extremly fustrating. In short, France is aspies´s nightmare.



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19 Mar 2012, 3:34 pm

I'm an American living in northern Italy.

I feel like a helpless imbecile whenever I leave the house because I can't string more than two or three words together in Italian, and I've really been dragging my feet in my efforts to learn. (It's complicated.) Most Italians can't speak a lick of English, so things like trying to get help finding something at the store can be an embarrassing ordeal for me. Italians are friendlier than the French--and many Americans, for that matter!--if they see that you are struggling with their language, but I don't know enough to even 'struggle' with it. I seriously can't say anything beyond "good afternoon" and "my name is [wildman]." Seriously. I suck that bad. On a good day I can ask something like "where is the detergent?" and hope to God the person I'm asking is a skilled pointer.

When it comes to bureaucracy and whatnot, without my wife's help (she's a local) I'm totally up crap creek. I work at home, and in English, so that's not an issue. It's just when I go out and about.

I don't know if my AS has anything to do with this. I really don't. But it could. At any rate, my difficulties are more a reflection of myself than of the Italian people (other than their being as monolingual as most white Americans are).

I don't know if it's better or worse for people with AS than other countries. I think in Italy it really depends on the region. I live in a northern province that is world-renowned for their mental health system, though that's more geared towards schizophrenics (and the like) than it is towards us. As far as I can tell. I think there's a lot more regional variation when it comes to services, infrastructure, and culture than in other smaller countries. If you're in Sud Tyrol you're almost literally in Austria, whereas if you're in Sicily you're in... Sicily.

Most of my socialization happens through my wife and she has a wide tight-knit circle of easygoing left wing type folks. I don't know that any of them find me to be particularly weird. Most of them have trouble understanding me when I talk (of those that know some English) but everyone just assumes it's my "California" accent. (I'm told they often have even more trouble understanding English people!) But I think that most Americans would find me to be a bit of a monotone mumbler.

Well, if you've read this far you're probably hoping for a generalization or two, so I'll give it a shot. The country was ruled by A-holes for a long time and they really messed a lot of stuff up. Italian bureaucracy/services have always been a little dodgy to begin with compared to other European countries... but then at least they have them in the first place. Back in America I'd lost my healthcare (change in my work contract) about a year before I moved here; knowing that I had it back, no strings attached, as soon as I got my permesso di soggiornio (equivalent of green card; I probably spelled that wrong), was quite a feeling. I'm not trying to make this a political screed, just my personal experiences.

As for the people. I think people in general are easygoing and good humored. If you're a little weird you kinda get a "pass" for being a foreigner (providing you're from the US, Canada, Aus/NZ, or northern/western Europe). I haven't faced any discrimination, but then I don't really socialize with anyone outside my wife's circle, and my work is solitary and homebound.



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19 Mar 2012, 3:57 pm

I've not been to many countries, but I live and grew up in the UK (scotland). And I don't find it to be very aspie friendly at all.



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19 Mar 2012, 4:22 pm

Though I'd otherwise guess that the more advanced a nation is in its freedom, human rights and management of diversity the better it is for Aspies, I live in Edinburgh and find it a good place to live with Asperger's because of the possibility of finding a social niche in the Aspie scene as I have done, because we have a thriving autism centre and thriving Asperger society etc. here.



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19 Mar 2012, 4:27 pm

I don't know about getting diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome when you're younger in Canada but trying to get a diagnosis when you're an adult is ridiculous. I told my old psychiatrist that I thought I had it and he just laughed and said it would just give me a label and nothing else. I did get a lot of testing done when I was younger in school but they could never pinpoint what was wrong with me, maybe because Asperger's was so new back then and uncommon for girls to get a diagnosis.



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19 Mar 2012, 4:32 pm

I'd have to say that the most AS friendly place I've been in the world (and I've been around the world several times) is Northern California- San Francisco, Berkley, Oakland, San Jose. Everyone is weird and aspies are in demand for high tech jobs that are very tolerant of quirks.



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19 Mar 2012, 4:57 pm

As far as culture is concerned, I think Switzerland is great. Everything is orderly and quiet, life is laid back, and the culture is diverse enough to accommodate quirkiness.


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19 Mar 2012, 5:00 pm

I would say Japan, Canada and the West coastal region of the United States.


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19 Mar 2012, 5:10 pm

1. West Coast of the US

2. Canada

3. Spain?

4. Australia/New Zealand?


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