Why do some NT's wish they were like us ?

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07 May 2012, 1:04 pm

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Because their life sucks too, and the lawn's always greener elsewhere.


Very good point and as i said maybe they want to be smarter


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07 May 2012, 2:03 pm

I would of thought the thought of being different would frighten them to death, they are so afraid to stand out of the social norm that I would of thought they would be celebrating that they're NTs.


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07 May 2012, 2:19 pm

All teenagers are establishing their identity - they're going through an identity crisis. It's normal, but it makes them outsiders - they have not yet established their adult social identity.

Part of what AS is, is a social construct to help a group of people who have difficulty in society. That right there makes it attractive to teens. Add some of the 'mystique' surrounding intellectual capabilities associated with AS and you have something that's almost magnetic to many teens.



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07 May 2012, 2:22 pm

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No one really wants to be like us, they just want to be special or not classed as normal. Are these people by chance teenagers?


Yes they are


All bets are off then. Teenagers are a completely different species in my opinion. :)


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07 May 2012, 2:38 pm

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kill231 wrote:
JanuaryMan wrote:
No one really wants to be like us, they just want to be special or not classed as normal. Are these people by chance teenagers?


Yes they are


All bets are off then. Teenagers are a completely different species in my opinion. :)


quoteception!

Same and I'm a teenager


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07 May 2012, 2:40 pm

I've never heard of this myself. Just about everyone I've talked to at school said they were glad they didn't have autism (or AS or any other difference). I suppose its probably just wanting to be different though, like some others have said.



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07 May 2012, 2:53 pm

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I've never heard of this myself. Just about everyone I've talked to at school said they were glad they didn't have autism (or AS or any other difference). I suppose its probably just wanting to be different though, like some others have said.


It's maybe that your peers are happy with the way they are and they don't give a s*** about those who are different and the modern human lack of empathy


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07 May 2012, 2:57 pm

I don't think that mentally healthy typical people want to have autism.



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11 May 2012, 8:07 pm

Interesting, I've never come across any NT saying they want to be an aspie. I can't imagine why; there are some days after a humiliating social encounter or sensory overload from a party I might otherwise have enjoyed that I come home and wish that just for one day, just to see what it's like, I could be an NT.

However, this idea of actually wanting AS or autism is a fascinating, if somewhat disturbing concept. Maybe it really is that they like the prospect of being labeled 'different', as if you need a medical disorder to be different. I guess the old differences, eating disorders, broken homes, depression, etc are too common anymore to be considered different (of all my 13 friends, only two of them still have intact families and no mental issues of which to speak.)
I would like to give all these NTs what they ask for though, give them all AS for a week and see how they like it then. Bet they wouldn't be so eager when they find out it's not all savantism and heightened intellect.


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11 May 2012, 8:23 pm

Because we are awesome. Kind of like a unicorn riding the sun and juggling planets with a rainbow shooting out of its mouth and killing all the bad guys, but with added awesome.


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11 May 2012, 8:24 pm

Because they just don't know what it's really like.

But awesome works too.



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11 May 2012, 8:26 pm

People have only said they want to be like me for my honesty, and not skills. They have told me how talented I am but never picked up if they wanted it for themselves.

I think people who want to be like us don't see the struggles, maybe because we mask them from them. They just see the talents, the honesty, the lack of giving in to peer pressure or the individuality. A lot of people may think that because we're outside of society, so to speak, that we're free. I might struggle socially but I've more than given up on trying to fit in too. Just doing my own thing and some people really envy that.

Awhile ago I saw going on some rant about extremely mild types making us that are really affected looking like were more mad than we are. They were basically saying it's not that bad, while we're dealing with other psychological or psychiatric problems. So I'm basically seeing us as insane compared to this person who seems to be coping.

I'm not explaining this well. I just feel like I'm insane compared to people with mild AS.


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11 May 2012, 9:46 pm

I wish I could draw as well as my son (yep, he is better artist at 5 than I am at 35), and it would be great to have his 'hyper focus' and attention to detail. I couldn't say that I wish I had AS because I don't (and never really will) understand what it is like to be him (which is very difficult for a NT parent of a AS child).


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11 May 2012, 9:52 pm

StarTrekker wrote:
Interesting, I've never come across any NT saying they want to be an aspie. I can't imagine why; there are some days after a humiliating social encounter or sensory overload from a party I might otherwise have enjoyed that I come home and wish that just for one day, just to see what it's like, I could be an NT.
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I would like to give all these NTs what they ask for though, give them all AS for a week and see how they like it then. Bet they wouldn't be so eager when they find out it's not all savantism and heightened intellect.
Many times I have wished I could have another person feel what it's like to have all of the issues I do. I have come to the conclusion that they likely would not make it more than a few days.


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11 May 2012, 10:03 pm

Perhaps they underestimate how much being a socially awkward individual can affect their lives.Many with AS are highly intelligent but I would speculate many would trade that intelligence in a heartbeat if they could do things like ask someone out on a date or make a good impression at a job interview.I am happy to have AS ,I have no complaints but wouldn't wish my social struggle on anyone else.



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12 May 2012, 2:28 am

I think its the unique abilities in certain areas we have due to constant curiousity and obsession but they dont realize the hell we go through growing up or trying to fit in socially and not to mention high stress levels and anxiety as well as tendency to have melt downs. :cry:


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