The Neanderthal theory, your thoughts?

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Geico's comercials greatly offend me.

Why? They're clever, well written, and much better than most of the crap commercials on the TV.

I was joking.

Duh, slow on the uptake there ...

Anyway, there's plenty of evidence that Neanderthals had a belief in an afterlife, and the steretypical image of them being stooped and hairy is all wrong.

From wikipedia:

Brontosaurus (pronounced /ˈbɹɒn.təˌsɔː.ɹəs/), meaning "thunder lizard" (from the Greek brontē/βροντη meaning 'thunder' and sauros/σαυρος meaning 'lizard'), is a deprecated genus of sauropod dinosaurs.

TRANSLATION? OOPS! We made a mistake, and put it together wrong! The stegasaurus and others were ALSO put together wrong! Do they have them right now? DOUBTFUL! Especially when yu consider notarity, acceptance, etc...

Don't you just LOVE archeology?(sarc)

Steve

Yeah, SteveK, I love the way they make mistakes ! !! Like the Coelacanth, which we now know is two species. Apparently, National Geographic is the big culprit with their 'caveman' portraits designed to make Neanderthals look less human so as to emphasize eviloution.

Not all of the stereotypes need be wrong. The view of dumb brutes certainly is not correct, but I cannot imagine them surviving in Ice-age Europe naked. That idea seems pretty far-fetched for me. Modern humans needed to "invent" cloth and shelters before they could live in this climate, but there is no evidence that Neanderthals had these. That speaks pretty much in favor of effective climate adaptations like a thick fur-coat. Not only that, the question in the quiz about being hairer than other people ended up as being correlated to autism. I bet the dislike for hairy creatures is correlated to NTs.

Sounds like somebody got up from the wrong side of the rock!!

HOW do you know when cloth was invented? You CAN'T know, because cloth USUALLY deteriorates. I say USUALLY because a CAUCASION with RED HAIR was found in CHINA that had CLOTHING! That person was determined to be over 13000 years old! So it predates any previously known examples of modern man, and was a SHOCK especially considering it was a caucasion in CHINA! Then again, russia was apparantly settled LATE, as it got its name russia meaning land of the rus. Land of the vikings! Yet THAT is where the earliest caucasian was originally found, in the caucasus mountain range. And NOW they find an older caucasion in MONGOLIA!

Steve

They said it is a work of fiction except where it isn't! They also said he did a good job of mixing fact with fiction. A lot of what they said early on IS accepted fact! I think the story is woven around accepted fact. With that being the case, the statements of intelligence, compatibility, etc... are accepted fact.

BTW such things are OFTEN the case. Just look at "KUNG FU"! Some of the most cartoonish and unbelievable parts of it are FACT! The idea of a half chinese being accepted, and the story around that guy being trained, etc.... and THAT persons history is fabrication. Everything else is TRUE! Whether it is the temple, budhism, kung fu, their philosophy, coexistence with a government that doesn't like them, etc... All true.

Steve

red hair from orangutan, a nerdy ape?

does orangutans and also chimpanzee got this rhesus factor?
http://www.myusm.com/usm370628.html

a long time ago they went from mediterranean sea > ireland > scandinavia

atmospheric radiation killed their color.

they got crazy.

today they post in boards.

Last edited by mkultra on 17 Feb 2007, 12:09 am, edited 1 time in total.

crichton writes crappy endings

I don't know if it's proven, but it is pretty widely accepted that Neandertal man was lighter and Cro-Magnon was darker. The reason is because lighter skin improves the chances of Vitamin D intake in colder climates with less sunlight. More Melanin protected against skin cancer in climates with more sun. Or, so that is what the most accepted theory says.

Neandertals did have shelters and had some tools. I'm pretty certain bone needles were among that. The biggest differences had to do with available food source. They were mostly hunters.

Cro-Magnons came from a more diverse area and had adapted different food sources based on that. As they moved North, they adapted. It's speculated that Neadertals either died out or disappeared through interbreeding. I didn't think they had found DNA proof of that yet.


As to blonds, less than 1.8% of the world population is blonde and 1% is redhead. Only 4% of the world population carries the redhead gene. Blonde and red is all over both sides of my family until this newest, but that's because my ancestors come from Germany and Ireland solely and only in the last generation did they start marrying people with dark hair. But, we still have reds pop up. I have a cousin with dark hair who married a man with dark hair, yet all the kids have carrot tops. So, they probably both had the gene.



Based on a 2001 Oxford University study, some commentators speculated that Neanderthals had red hair, and that some red-headed and freckled humans today share some genetic heritage with Neanderthals.[8][9] Other researchers disagree, [6] and some of the scientists who conducted the study claim this is a misinterpretation of their findings.[7] However, in November 2006, a paper was published in the U.S. journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, in which a team of European researchers report that Neanderthals and humans may have interbred, although no reference was made to red hair.[10]
That's from http://www.answers.com/red%20hair.

The Neanderthal theory, your thoughts?

That webpage?...some interesting facts that lead to whole lot of bunk.

i pretty much have a neanderthal shaped face

I don't know. I can survive pretty COLD climates. I was just out in 9F degree weather.(about -13C) It wasn't that bad. My hands and face were certainly naked, so I had a good idea how cold it was. A lot of autistics are hyposensitive to the cold. Besides, who is to say they didn't have hides, etc...

ALSO, NTs DO like hairy creatures. Some cultures just have an idea of what is preferred for humans. That DOES vary by culture though.

Steve