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26 Feb 2007, 2:00 pm

I'm not sure what my IQ is exactly, somewhere in the "highly gifted" range. Not like it matters. I don't know if my IQ is high enough to join Mensa but I wouldn't join anyway. I don't like IQ tests because they can't possibly test all the different ways that a person can be intelligent. Also, some questions can have more than one right answer. In some cases (only a few), the test taker can logically come up with an answer to a question that is just as right as the answer supplied by the test designer, but because it is a different answer it gets marked as wrong.

A persons IQ doesn't say much about that person anyway. I'm sure there are many people who are below Mensa score who are happier and more successful than the average Mensa member will ever be. The human brain is very complex and dynamic, you can't accurately score it with a test.



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26 Feb 2007, 4:34 pm

there will be a few of us who were members of mensa but you shouldn't autmomatically asume that we are savants, WE ARE NOT!! ! How may savants do i know on this forum, 0!! ! and also our iq's wont be as high as they should be because we have troubles in other areas which we score well lower in


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26 Feb 2007, 4:50 pm

I was going to join after highschool because I thought it would be a good thing to put on my college application. Then my legal guardian died and I had no money for college, so I didn't join. They kept sending me the newsletter for years though.



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26 Feb 2007, 5:37 pm

The fact is that not everyone knows what MENSA is. I had put it in a college entrance essay, and everyone I had proof-read it asked me what MENSA was. I mentioned it at work once, and everyone asked me what it was.

I think exclusive clubs are lame, and really, I think MENSA is a reaction to nerds getting ostracized in school.

But that is just my opinion. I qualify (and have since seventh grade), but I don't need it; it doesn't do anything but give me a chance to hang out with smart people (and smart people are a lot of times very arrogant and condescending) who think it is cool to be in a special club, and it costs me money.

But if you want to join, then go for it. Try it on, see if you like it, and keep it if it does. It wasn't for me. I much prefer talking about physics and economics with my few friends then going to meetings where people plan murder mysteries and stuff like that.


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26 Feb 2007, 6:35 pm

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Yeah, I thought about joining, but only to meet like minded people, which doesn't seem likely. To tell the truth I'm kind of scared of getting my IQ measured.


*sound of hammer hitting nail on head*

That and it does seem a little pretentious. If my IQ was high enough to join, I'm sure nearly everyone would be smarter than me anyways. Seems like it would be depressing that something that I'm good at (being relatively intellectually sharp, in contrast to my brutally apparent shortcomings elsewhere) would be overshadowed by other people.

Plus I'd have to pay to get reminded that there are plenty of people out there who are smarter and more socially adept than me? I think I'll start getting cheese on my whopper instead.



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26 Feb 2007, 6:46 pm

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Plus I'd have to pay to get reminded that there are plenty of people out there who are smarter and more socially adept than me? I think I'll start getting cheese on my whopper instead.


The people most like you are your greatest competition in evolutions game to.



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26 Feb 2007, 6:48 pm

I applied, but they said I was so smart that I deserved to be in my own group. In fact, when I said MENSA was good enough for me, they insisted that they were not worthy, and forced me out of their building. I had a TI-83 Plus thrown at me. :(



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26 Feb 2007, 6:52 pm

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I applied, but they said I was so smart that I deserved to be in my own group. In fact, when I said MENSA was good enough for me, they insisted that they were not worthy, and forced me out of their building. I had a TI-83 Plus thrown at me. :(


You aren't being serious are you?

I suspect that you may be joking; if that is the case, it was hillarious and very werbert-like.


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26 Feb 2007, 7:04 pm

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I applied, but they said I was so smart that I deserved to be in my own group. In fact, when I said MENSA was good enough for me, they insisted that they were not worthy, and forced me out of their building. I had a TI-83 Plus thrown at me. :(


If they tossed my TI-85 at me I would have showed them that a high IQ means a thin skull.



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26 Feb 2007, 7:16 pm

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Plus I'd have to pay to get reminded that there are plenty of people out there who are smarter and more socially adept than me? I think I'll start getting cheese on my whopper instead.


The people most like you are your greatest competition in evolutions game to.


Do you mean AS or reclusive? I'm not sure if I'm AS just yet, just made an appoitment to get checked out though(although I'm relatively sure).

If you do mean AS, I read somewhere that 10% of autistics show savant-esque traits, and 50% of savant trait-having people are autistic. Sounds to me that autism might be the next big thing for human development (if you're in to wild speculations like me). I think the only problem would be procreation (half joking)... but then again maybe it would be a lot easier without the social game to deal with. It seems like an all-AS world would interoperate quite well.



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26 Feb 2007, 7:24 pm

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Plus I'd have to pay to get reminded that there are plenty of people out there who are smarter and more socially adept than me? I think I'll start getting cheese on my whopper instead.


The people most like you are your greatest competition in evolutions game to.


Do you mean AS or reclusive? I'm not sure if I'm AS just yet, just made an appoitment to get checked out though(although I'm relatively sure).

If you do mean AS, I read somewhere that 10% of autistics show savant-esque traits, and 50% of savant trait-having people are autistic. Sounds to me that autism might be the next big thing for human development (if you're in to wild speculations like me). I think the only problem would be procreation (half joking)... but then again maybe it would be a lot easier without the social game to deal with. It seems like an all-AS world would interoperate quite well.


I was thinking at a much lower level. If you and a group of very similar people meet
a single women. Your entire group is your main competition if she is interested in any of you.



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26 Feb 2007, 7:28 pm

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OMGpenguin wrote:
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Plus I'd have to pay to get reminded that there are plenty of people out there who are smarter and more socially adept than me? I think I'll start getting cheese on my whopper instead.


The people most like you are your greatest competition in evolutions game to.


Do you mean AS or reclusive? I'm not sure if I'm AS just yet, just made an appoitment to get checked out though(although I'm relatively sure).

If you do mean AS, I read somewhere that 10% of autistics show savant-esque traits, and 50% of savant trait-having people are autistic. Sounds to me that autism might be the next big thing for human development (if you're in to wild speculations like me). I think the only problem would be procreation (half joking)... but then again maybe it would be a lot easier without the social game to deal with. It seems like an all-AS world would interoperate quite well.


I was thinking at a much lower level. If you and a group of very similar people meet
a single women. Your entire group is your main competition if she is interested in any of you.


Ah ok. I was saying that it would be a huge downer to go to a MENSA meeting just to have a bunch of people tell me how much smarter they are than me. Without that, I don't really have much else to bank on.

As far as competing within a group goes, it's happened plenty of times before, and I don't even play the game now. It's just not worth my try and to be let down. *shrug*



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26 Feb 2007, 10:38 pm

I joined because I thought it might be a sort of social support group for nerds. But I didn't feel much commonality with what I saw, and ended up ignoring it. I still pay dues, figuring that maybe I'm helping others get out of it what I was seeking but didn't find.

Smart is better than dumb, but smart isn't everything. Just like beautiful is better than ugly, but beauty isn't everything. Smart is just a tool.

I qualified based on old SAT scores. (As someone mentioned earlier, they don't accept modern SAT scores.) I wouldn't have been comfortable going in to take a supervised IQ test.



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26 Feb 2007, 11:10 pm

Didn't get the actual I.Q rating as a score, but rather a percentage. In the top 5%, but ya have to be within the 2% range for Mensa, right?


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26 Feb 2007, 11:16 pm

156ish, I don't waste my time or money because it just seems like a pointless little bit of pretension that is grasped at by housewives and mcdonalds managers who pretend it's an actual qualification for anything



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26 Feb 2007, 11:49 pm

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156ish, I don't waste my time or money because it just seems like a pointless little bit of pretension that is grasped at by housewives and mcdonalds managers who pretend it's an actual qualification for anything
I agree. That's why I put on my resume that I applied, but it was a "mutual decision" that I should not join.

In a way, it was a mutual decision. After they slapped a restraining order on me, I decided that I did not need them.

So, who wants to join Wensa?