Am i the only one with NO empathy for the Cinema Massacre?

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25 Jul 2012, 5:05 pm

I agree and I know it's the reason I personally don't feel anything. It's just that I consciously choose not to go and look at/visualize something like that for that reason. I'm kind of confused as to whether you're advising him to do that or just making a point about how empathy works now... :? Never mind.



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25 Jul 2012, 5:07 pm

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For those who do not feel sad about what happened, by your own logic, no one should feel sad about you being bullied, or treated bad in general. Afterall, they don't know you, so why should they care about yout. And by that logic, you should have no anger inside of you that no one cares about you, because, well, they do not know you and by your own logic, they are well withing their right not to care anything about you.


Indeed. The next time that various people on this thread appear in The Haven, moaning that they can't find a girlfriend, or they don't like their parents or whatever gripe it is that day, I presume that they will understand if I reply with 'Well I don't know you, so I don't really care. Your problem doesn't matter to me at all, and frankly, it's pretty unimportant in the grand scheme of things'.


I don't know if this is directed at me, but I feel that both of you are being far too critical of those of us who said we don't feel bad about the shooting. It's simply not in our nature.



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25 Jul 2012, 5:11 pm

I'm finding it strange that people can't find empathy for those who don't have empathy. Especially on a board devoted to people with problems with emotions.

Emotions can't be helped. And neither can the lack of emotions.



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25 Jul 2012, 5:14 pm

Can't say I'd feel upset when seeing the aftermath.

Actually, I'd find it interesting from an external and terminal ballistics perspective; it's interesting seeing how high velocity missiles interact with the environment.



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25 Jul 2012, 5:14 pm

SilkySifaka wrote:
Indeed. The next time that various people on this thread appear in The Haven, moaning that they can't find a girlfriend, or they don't like their parents or whatever gripe it is that day, I presume that they will understand if I reply with 'Well I don't know you, so I don't really care. Your problem doesn't matter to me at all, and frankly, it's pretty unimportant in the grand scheme of things'.


It isn't like this thread was directed at a victim of the massacre who posted grieving about it.



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25 Jul 2012, 5:15 pm

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While I think what happened was terrible and would have been better if it never occured, I don't really care either. I have a hard time caring if it doesn't directly effect me in a negative way. Of course I'd prefer it if it never happened at all but I'm definitely not losing any sleep over it. It is what it is.

I do get emotional when I read or hear about animal abuse, though. One thing I cannot take is the thought of people abusing/hurting animals that are completely innocent and helpless.


I am the same. Humans I don't really give a hoot for, but animals, I just love animals.
How can people hurt those poor things? :(

I have always said, if I won the lottery (which I won't because I don't play, unless someone gives me a lottery ticket) then I would give half of it, or more (depending on the amount) to an animal charity, or several animal charities.



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25 Jul 2012, 5:17 pm

Whether a person does or does not feel empathy for the poor people who suffered, and are continuing to suffer, in the massacre does not justify that image you posted.


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25 Jul 2012, 5:43 pm

autotelica wrote:
I'm finding it strange that people can't find empathy for those who don't have empathy. Especially on a board devoted to people with problems with emotions.

Emotions can't be helped. And neither can the lack of emotions.


lol your clever



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25 Jul 2012, 5:55 pm

Most people don't actually care as much about it as they would let on. Sure they were probably shocked to hear the initial news, but after that they only need to give off the illusion of empathy because it's socially expected.

It's like when the cashier at the grocery store says, "How are you today?" He doesn't actually care about your day, he's just doing what's expected of him.



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25 Jul 2012, 6:03 pm

Thelostcup wrote:
Most people don't actually care as much about it as they would let on. Sure they were probably shocked to hear the initial news, but after that they only need to give off the illusion of empathy because it's socially expected.

It's like when the cashier at the grocery store says, "How are you today?" He doesn't actually care about your day, he's just doing what's expected of him.


To not show empathy, is to fall out of favour, with your community

A tribe has many codes.... one code defines its best members as those who care about others within the tribe. To not care about others within your tribe, puts you on the outside of influence and favours, normally bestowed upon more popular (caring) members of said tribe

One could argue that Denver is a long way from my tribe in NZ, but seeing as I am a child of the universe, I'm cool with that



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25 Jul 2012, 6:09 pm

Thelostcup wrote:
Most people don't actually care as much about it as they would let on. Sure they were probably shocked to hear the initial news, but after that they only need to give off the illusion of empathy because it's socially expected.

It's like when the cashier at the grocery store says, "How are you today?" He doesn't actually care about your day, he's just doing what's expected of him.


I agree that lots of emotions are pretty superficial and transient. I can grasp when someone is just going through the motions of polite behavior because that's what I do all the time.

What gets me are the people who cry about news stories. I don't see how they are able to feel that intensely. And because I'm not swept up in it and I realize that emotions can be faked, it is very easy to assume that some of them are faking. Yet I can't tell who's faking and who's real. All of them are bawling just the same. It makes me uncomfortable...this suspicion that there are fakers in the crowd.



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25 Jul 2012, 6:55 pm

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I didn't post the picture to make people laugh. I posted it as I found it funny, and yet society tells me I shouldn't and should feel sorry for the people.

So...you don't feel saddened for the loss of life but can laugh at it? Why is it funny? It's actually sick that the artist has such little regard over the loss of life that they'd make something like this.

If you don't want to be a labelled a swine then maybe you should try to learn some empathy. I did and now I'm over empathetic.

But yes I understand it's a brain thing... Brain things can be changed just a little bit. Once you lose someone close to you and it just clicks that other people can feel pain as much as you can.

I do not have superficial empathy for these people. In fact I care so deeply that I have to remove myself from many discussions when I start to lose control over my anger towards certain people. I read a very long article about the victims and cried by the ending.


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25 Jul 2012, 6:58 pm

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Ummm... no. Sorry, but I do not want the government to b the only ones with guns.
You don't seem to have much trust in your government.



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25 Jul 2012, 7:04 pm

I sympathize, but I don't empathize because it hasn't happened to me...but, I also sympathize with Holmes because there was obviously a reason for him doing so; NOT a justifiable one, but one that needs more understanding. Just to make it clear, I don't empathize with him, either.


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25 Jul 2012, 7:05 pm

One think I find impossible to understand:

How can you actually feel bad for things that happen to people you don't know/care about or events you have no direct input in?

I mean, I'll feel bad if I step on an ant, but I won't feel anything for any murder or atrocity [when I have no personal stake in].

Funnily, I don't think most people feel bad if they kill an ant.



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25 Jul 2012, 7:11 pm

Dillogic wrote:
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If you dont feel bad for a the man that lost his six year old daughter and possibly his wife too then there is something (more than aspergers) wrong with you.


I don't feel anything for that. Why would I? I don't know them. I'd feel bad if it happened to someone I cared about.

Thank you, Dillogic. This is what I try to tell people, but they call me heartless and mean. It's not even just Asperger's with this, I just think it's logic. Really, I don't know them, so it doesn't affect me. Nor can I relate to it.