Psychic abilities

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Of course telling the future and spells and curses and all that are illogical but so is religion. So is picking up on peoples "vibes" or "energy" ie; when somebody is in a bad mood but trying not to show it etc, and you can just almost feel the negativity.

I wouldn't believe in it if I hadn't seen it work so many times.

I remember after I met my husband. I had taken my best friend at the time with me to his parents house while they were out of town so I could fix her up with his brother (just a one night thing, not to date or anything) and later on after both the guys were asleep I heard her in the livingroom so I got up and went in there. We got to talking, she wondered what I was gonna do about him because she thought he would be good with me and all, and asked me to read my cards. So I did. They said I would marry him and have four kids. Now, at the time I was adamant that I never wanted to get married again and that I never wanted kids. He didn't want to get married until he was 50. I told her "I must still be drunk or something, this makes no sense" and laughed it off.

Oh well.

She reminded me of that when I married him and every time I had a baby too.

There is no valid, empirical evidence to support any claim for the existence of psychics or any other supernatural or "meta-natural" abilities or beings.

Mere coincidence is not a factor. Nor is stating one's observation of a behavioral trend.

a. Spur a horse, and he will move.
b. You have spurred a horse.
: : The horse has moved.

a. Start a thread on psychics, and Fnord will post in it.
b. A thread was started on psychics.
: : Fnord has posted.

Psychic? Not at all.

Coincidence? Not really.

Behavioral observation? Definitely.

I defy anyone to provide valid empirical evidence for the existence of psychic ability ... something other than subjective belief, apocryphal accounts, or any kind of rationalistic bullsnot like, "You can't prove it false, so it must be true".

Notwithstanding Fnord's skepticism...

When I was a little girl, I woke up one night in the middle of the night in a panic. I went out to the living room and told my dad that our dog was dead. He reassured me that I had just had a bad dream and told me to go back to bed. Moments later the county sheriff pulled up to our house to inform us that someone had accidentally hit our dog on the road. She was dead.

Another time I called my mom because I had this weird idea in my head that my great grandpa was dead, but I knew he wasn't. She confirmed that he wasn't dead. He died very shortly thereafter.

I could list other examples. I don't know what it is, but it has happened.

(Not that I would pay to see a psychic. I don't think I would. But, I am skeptical of skeptics too. And that is because they could also be defending their world view against other world views, or ideology.)
Scientific paradigm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradigm#S ... c_paradigm

So you say.

Oftentimes, people's memories get things in the wrong order, especially memories from early childhood.

For instance, I "remember" dreaming that one of the rides at Disneyland had exploded, and that people's bodies were falling out of the sky. I also "remember" seeing a TV news report the next day that a helicopter on it's way to Disneyland had crashed.

Unfortunately, my "memory" of the TV report originated a year after my alleged dream (we had received our first TV only a week earlier), and my "memory" of the dream itself derived from an AM radio news report describing the one-year anniversary of a previous event that I had not heard of before my father took us on a car trip up north. My mind simply filled in the blanks to produce a story that made sense to me as a child.

Precognition is all post hoc subjective misinterpretation.

So called "psychics" usually speak in very general non-specific terms when they're pretending to read the future.

Except that my parents can verify this. And the second incident I described happened when I was no longer a small child.

Sometimes things happen that we can't explain. The lack of an explanation does not mean that it didn't happen, nor do I believe myself to be psychic. It's just a thing that has happened that I don't know what it is or how it happened.

I also had 2 "ghosts" in my previous home. I am not sure they were disembodied spirits of the dead. I don't know what they were. But I sensed them, both of my kids sensed them, my dog sensed them, and my 2 cats sensed them. I don't know what they were, and I have no logical explanation for what I experienced, but it was what it was.

A 'rational' explanation could also be a rationalization to deal with the tension of an experience which contradicts how the world is 'supposed' to work.

Not saying this is the case with anyone in particular.

Isn't it amazing how all "psychics" can cite only past experiences, yet can not provide even one single demonstration of their alleged abilities? Does it surprise anyone that when challenged to produce such a demonstration, a "psychic" will resort to excuses ("It doesn't work that way") or ad hominem attacks ("Fnord, you're a pig-headed a-hole") to threats of "dire consequences" if requests for demonstrations don't stop?

Tell me, ITT ... what's in the box?

They also narrow it down by reading your body language and facial expressions.

My last "psychic" reading was such a joke and I couldn't help but toy with the woman. She said that I am a "world traveler" who loves to socialize and meet new people. Um. I have been to the US, Canada, and Mexico. Not exactly a "world traveler," especially since you didn't even need a passport when I went. I could do without socializing, and I do not like to meet new people. I got her to come to this conclusion by slightly smiling when she said things like "I see you...I see you...somewhere distant" (smile) "Another country" (smile) "You are a world traveler" (smile) "You like...you like...you are going to see many....ancient artifacts" (straight face) "No...not artifacts...people" (smile) "You love culture and you like to meet new people." (smile) I see travel in your future with new companions."

Dumb*ss. LOL!

I TOTALLY WIN!! !

I just said...I don't think I am psychic. I don't think I can predict the future. I don't know why those things happened. They just did. So if there is something in a box somewhere, you are going to have to tell me about it, because I am clueless.

I have watched documentaries where claimed psychics have helped police solve the crimes. It's hard for me to believe. Yet, I don't see how this can be denied that some detectives (a minority, I bet) have used such people. Especially when they are not going anywhere with solving the crime.

If the psychic does show some ability, even small ability can be significant, it is usually "debunked". Anyway, I am skeptical that these issues are more of a debate of world views. And the psychic ability will be 'debunked', explained away, ignored. Or maybe the goal posts will be moved.

I am open to the idea to some degree. I am not so interested in psychic ability to predict future but would find it interesting if some ability was true.

I find these things interesting, and if something that is considered "paranormal" that has happened seems legitimate enough to look into, I think it's interesting.

That's not surprising. Many so-called psychics DO have useful skills. How else could they convincingly fake being psychic?

I find the quantum science very interesting, when I take the time to look at it.
I also believe that just because we haven't yet found an underlying system that may provide psychic links, doesn't mean one doesn't exist, or that some people haven't intuitively found a way to use it. I don't think we know everything yet. The world would be such a boring place if we did.

I look at "psychic" stuff like I look at every religious/spiritual system. Most of them require you believe in something you can't see and can't prove exists, yet lots of people do, and grow up thinking it's normal and don't ever question it. Prayer, Miracles, Energy Healing...that could be a long list. With so many cultures in agreement all over the world and across a large span of time I think there is a decent arguement for something being there that we don't understand yet.

O yeah, I'm blessed with precog due to the ASD.

Why else would I suck at social interaction when social interaction always leads to wasted pain--divorce, broken families, selfish actions of supposed "loved ones", and other super awesome effects.

(No, seriously, I'm not jaded, it's just my psychic ability.)