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20 Oct 2012, 6:51 pm

I think @Kaelynn needs to clarify some circumstances and goals before it's clear which advices that are right. ;)
It starting to become more of a speculation of actual circumstances now.



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21 Oct 2012, 10:02 am

Your dad come across as a moron.



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21 Oct 2012, 10:10 am

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My dad thinks I am a ret*d

does he have any evidence that you are?
Would it matter if he did? There's no reason to treat anybody that way.


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21 Oct 2012, 10:34 am

They would always threaten to throw me out on the street ever since I can remember. They would always use that against me, when I wanted to do something that they couldn't make any sense of. The things that were important to me were laughable for them. If you can afford to move out. Do it. If he really cares he will visit you.

My parents always lure me back to their home so that they can hammer me on what I did wrong in life and how I should treat my car or why I bought the wrong light bulb. That is not helping, that is breaking me down. And they don't come to my place because I told them they can't ever enforce their rules on me in my own place.

It's like their addicted to dominate me all the time. Like I'm suppose to be adhere to their wolfpack code or some BS.



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21 Oct 2012, 10:45 am

@Stalk, Why do you visit them in the first place if you have your own income and living?



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21 Oct 2012, 10:54 am

Everytime I think they changed and that they sound sincere when they ask me to visit them. But it always seems to turn out to be smoke and mirrors. I haven't been there in a couple of months.

Only a matter of time before they send a family member to come and check up on me again.



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21 Oct 2012, 11:29 am

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I only see my dad about 4 times a year and each time is never any different from the last. We start talking about my education and futrue job and we get into a fight. He said I should work at target because "they hire special people." He jokes about me being ret*d. He tells me I shouldn't be able to drive a car because I have the mentallity of an 8 year old rather then someone who is 15. He says hes giving up on my education and hes not going to help at all (I have a ton of learning disabilites). He talks to me like I am 2 and he mocks what I say in a ret*d sounding voice. He wants me to change my obession from service dogs to computers.

I am not retared. How many 15 years do you know can train an animal to behave in an acceptable manner among the general public? Or that can tell you most every thing about service dog laws? I am not ret*d, people with any type of autism are not ret*d, they are just different. How do I make him shut up and stop telling me crap like that?


Sounds exactly like my old man except I had to live with it every day. I could go on and on but I'm sure you get the picture.
Eventually I simply proved him wrong. I'm not as successful as he would have liked but a helluva lot more successful than he said I'd be (at least for the time being).
Peruse a career in service/working dogs if that's that your passion is. You might not get rich but if you can make a living, be relatively happy, and do something you love then you've won. :)


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21 Oct 2012, 2:45 pm

Happy is Rich.



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21 Oct 2012, 7:23 pm

@MrWunderbar, what do you mean? it doesn't make sense?

@Stalk, Set a minimum time between (torment) visits. Every period of time of last bad visit has to be larger than the last. ie wait days = 2^(visit number) :P
The might notice their way to the shadows sometimes at visit number 11 .. :twisted:
Charge for visits?
As for smokes and mirrors, they tend to fail when scrutinized. So verify them IF the chance is worthwhile.

And of course refuse any "check up on you".


Regarding training of dogs. Those that are to work with customs, explosive/drug sniffing, helping blind people, etc. Can certainly provide enough value for a living.



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21 Oct 2012, 11:59 pm

I remember the word ret*d spastic and mongol being used in England in the 1970s, referring to people with certain mental conditions. Today we call those silly name callers ignorant.

Your father is a very lost man, he obviously has problems himself.
Expression is the key to communication, your father can’t express himself in the right manner. A bad case of Machonism I imagine.



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22 Oct 2012, 10:40 am

With 15 years, it might be too early for you to really understand, but there are much worser things you could be, than being a ret*d. For example you could be an extreme as*hole, like your father. ;)

I want to say, that when someon calls me ret*d i just dont feel that insulting, as they want it to be. Yes i am ret*d. I´ve got officially documents which told me, that i am ret*d. Does someone have to endure pain, because i´m, retardet? - No, not as far as i can see. So i cant see the point, where i should be ashamed about it or worry around about it. For example, if i was your father and I would be activily wanting to hurt a family relative and enjoy that. This would be something i really had to be ashamed of. Asperger is something that i didnt choose and that does not hurt people by meaning. you're father is able to choose his behaviour against you and does it by meaning. So thats the part, that would really bother me. :)



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22 Oct 2012, 10:47 am

Schneekugel wrote:
With 15 years, it might be too early for you to really understand, but there are much worser things you could be, than being a ret*d. For example you could be an extreme as*hole, like your father. ;)

I want to say, that when someon calls me ret*d i just dont feel that insulting, as they want it to be. Yes i am ret*d. I´ve got officially documents which told me, that i am ret*d. Does someone have to endure pain, because i´m, retardet? - No, not as far as i can see. So i cant see the point, where i should be ashamed about it or worry around about it. For example, if i was your father and I would be activily wanting to hurt a family relative and enjoy that. This would be something i really had to be ashamed of. Asperger is something that i didnt choose and that does not hurt people by meaning. you're father is able to choose his behaviour against you and does it by meaning. So thats the part, that would really bother me. :)
That is very well said. I couldn't really figure out how to say it myself; then you did it for me. Thank you.


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22 Oct 2012, 11:55 am

Be cold and calm and polite. He (your dad) only sees you about four times a year, so tell him that. Be polite - "Dad, we only see each other four times a year, and I want to tell you how I'm doing at school, not arguing over a job that I'm going to get, in what, three years time or longer, if I go to uni. At school we..." That's kind of avoiding the problem, though.
As a rule, if I was being ranted at, I would play the non-responsive-not-caring game, but that may not work.
Depends how you get on with him - maybe explain autism, and at the end conclude, kind of sarcastically, "It's not that hard to understand". But then, you'd get a backlash.
Don't expect anything from him, at the end of the day. Tell other people and expect them to do something.


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26 Oct 2012, 10:27 am

I think that could fall under verbal/psychological abuse. It's definitely not acceptable. The hard truth may be that your dad has issues that he is in denial about and is unlikely to accept you unless he addresses his problems first ...which may never happen.

Your best bet would be to simply stop seeing him altogether. I get the impression you'd rather he be a part of your life, but in a positive way. That, however, isn't your choice, it's his. TBH it doesn't sound like he's worth your time.