Dumb things I've heard non-autistics say about autism

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03 Nov 2012, 8:41 pm

Here are some definitions for Autism that I found on Google Dictionary.

"A mental condition in which fantasy dominates over reality, as a symptom of schizophrenia and other disorders"

"An abnormal absorption with the self; marked by communication disorders and short attention span and inability to treat others as people"

"Autism is purely a lunatic as well as a semi-genetic disease. Hyper-activity is the primary symptom of autism which is followed as a genetic character to the following generation, thus, autism becomes the second generation genetic disease"



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03 Nov 2012, 8:42 pm

I don't know if everyone will agree that these are dumb things, but:

"If someone 'appears' less autistic they 'are' less autistic as autism is diagnosed on basis of observed behaviours."
"I'm not sure you understand that ASD's are not 'soft' diagnoses. They are severe and pervasive and do not 'hide'."



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03 Nov 2012, 8:48 pm

Another one from NTs is. You can't have Aspergers because you don't look ret*d or have a physical disability, another one is They can't see the disability so they do not believe you have it and they swear black and blue that your Normal and faking or pretending to have a disability.



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03 Nov 2012, 9:32 pm

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Autism is the new ret*d.

I've heard this before. Apparently, you don't call things ret*d, you call them autistic.
I've honestly no idea. :?


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04 Nov 2012, 1:00 am

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4. "You dress too nice to be autistic"
My mother considered it a victory when I stopped leaving the house wearing shirts that had holes in them.



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04 Nov 2012, 1:12 am

You know what....
I learned in a Human Relations and Psychology class that Empathy is a "learned emotion"
so that means that NO ONE is born with it and it comes naturally for NO ONE regardless of Autism or not. So being neurotypical doesn't make you magically good at empathy... it's apparently a choice and a perspective.



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04 Nov 2012, 8:25 am

...sadly from my husband, about our daughters after me describing the main traits to try to explain AS to him:

"well if that's what it is then it shouldn't be called a syndrome, it shouldn't exist".


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04 Nov 2012, 8:45 am

I'm pretty sure we do lack empathy*. They've got physical evidence from brain imaging recently too to add to the evidence locker.

*It doesn't mean you can't be a nice, caring and compassionate person who has guilt and regret (these last two emotions seem to be intact in those with high functioning ASDs, which are the two important ones regarding whether someone is "bad" or not)



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04 Nov 2012, 10:48 am

"Deal with it" "Get over it" "IGNOOOOOOOOOOOORE"

--Everyone who ever commented it on my sensitivities including my Misophonia.


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04 Nov 2012, 11:13 am

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I try not to let silly people (both NT and AS) get on my nerves. I say that life is too short to deal with them all.

My wife (who has AS) saw one very stupid thing commented on another website (Not a AS site, I would rather not name the site to avoid breaking the WP rules) where someone said that AS was a borderline personality disorder. Me and my wife thought that was very silly, BPD and AS are very different conditions. From what I have read BPD is a totally different condition to AS.

It was about as stupid as a person saying that flu is a mild version of lung cancer !


Someone once told me that Autism is just a personality difference :x I would love to know how speech and sensory issues are just personality differences?

Apparently, Autism is over diagnosed. In "her day", (this lady is in her 60s) we would have been ignored, diagnosed with other stuff or put into institutions.



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04 Nov 2012, 12:04 pm

Dillogic wrote:
I'm pretty sure we do lack empathy*. They've got physical evidence from brain imaging recently too to add to the evidence locker.

*It doesn't mean you can't be a nice, caring and compassionate person who has guilt and regret (these last two emotions seem to be intact in those with high functioning ASDs, which are the two important ones regarding whether someone is "bad" or not)


You actually believe the conclusions they make from those studies? Half the time it's complete bollocks and it's rather obvious the researchers didn't take that many possible explantations into account. Then again I've seen you seem to think Aspergers is the most disabling disease in the world and only seem to interpret it in it's most severe forms, so whatever.


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04 Nov 2012, 12:16 pm

Ganondox wrote:
Dillogic wrote:
I'm pretty sure we do lack empathy*. They've got physical evidence from brain imaging recently too to add to the evidence locker.

*It doesn't mean you can't be a nice, caring and compassionate person who has guilt and regret (these last two emotions seem to be intact in those with high functioning ASDs, which are the two important ones regarding whether someone is "bad" or not)


You actually believe the conclusions they make from those studies? Half the time it's complete bollocks and it's rather obvious the researchers didn't take that many possible explantations into account. Then again I've seen you seem to think Aspergers is the most disabling disease in the world and only seem to interpret it in it's most severe forms, so whatever.


From what I get out of it, he seems to take what he reads about autism literally and sticks to the texts about it. Sadly not everything you read is true.


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04 Nov 2012, 12:17 pm

Well, I don't know what type of people you know, but no one has ever said me things like that (apart the stereotype that all autistics are good at Math). But that may be just because I talk about autism/AS out of my house very very little. Or maybe, it's because I mostly fit the stereotype.


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04 Nov 2012, 12:42 pm

"[Insert socially savvy manipulative "douchebag" character or person here] shows some symptoms of Asperger's. "

Most recently I saw this statement made about Tink from The Guild (imo, probably the most NT character on that show). Apparently there's an idea going around that AS is basically synonymous with selfishness.



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04 Nov 2012, 12:42 pm

I was once told my Autism can't be that bad as I've just been diagnosed. Ignore the fact that I am female, who are meant to be harder to diagnose. Why would someone seek a diagnosis (of anything) if there it wasn't that bad? I've had people suggest since I was 14 that I probably have it.



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04 Nov 2012, 1:29 pm

antifeministfrills wrote:
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"You can't have Asperger's because you don't play with fire, wet the bed, or torture helpless animals." -- my former G.P.
Wtf.

At the time, I didn't know enough about AS to mount a good rebuttal. So I just changed G.P.s.

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Fnord wrote:
"You can't have Asperger's because you don't play with fire, wet the bed, or torture helpless animals." -- my former G.P.
Should receive Prof. discipline for that. :(

Doctors tend to not receive censure for just giving their opinions. The fact that I received a second opinion from a licensed mental-health professional with appropriate training reinforces the medical doctrine that G.P.s are merely front-line diagnosticians, and that only specialists can make a valid diagnosis. My current G.P. seems to actually care about what I tell her.