03 Dec 2012, 5:40 pm
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03 Dec 2012, 5:44 pm
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03 Dec 2012, 5:46 pm
circular wrote:
There may be something like "I want to be part of that group" that can motivate toward a site like WrongPlanet, but we all share that, it is a positive force. Of course, it is good to be aware of it, so as to be sincere about ourselves. Finally, if you discover you do not have autism, but something similar, slightly different, you will have made a journey along other people. It can be positive, and it is really not a reason for hatred or exclusion, but rather for empathy and support.
Exactly.
And a Completely NT person, is not really going to be all that motivated to come here and be part of the group unless they have a relative or partner in the spectrum.
Seriously, your random 'decently adjusted, no real issues' sort...even of the geeky variety is not going to find much of true interest in threads about sensory issues etc.
And I would also wager that a high number of the self-diagnosed folks, don't actually go around shouting from the rooftops...I started participating here because its a place to learn more, and find things in common and so forth.
Telling EVERYONE I meet that I (might) have AS, really isn't on my agenda....participating in thoughtful discussions and learning about myself and others, is.
I suspect most of us self-diagnosed folks are similarly motivated.
But we can all get off of your green lawn if thats what you want.
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03 Dec 2012, 5:48 pm
03 Dec 2012, 5:50 pm
an autism diagnosisis is certainly not hard to get nowadays 
many personality disorder share traits with aspergers too. also learning disabilities. what makes you guys so sure it is autism?
no one has yet explained why they came to this conclusion
03 Dec 2012, 5:54 pm
Sweetleaf wrote:
kirayng wrote:
Who_Am_I wrote:
kirayng wrote:
Who_Am_I wrote:
kirayng wrote:
To me, I don't see how people can be convinced they have a developmental disorder if they are functioning fine in society.... I would challenge anyone who is self-diagnosed to actually have a problem in one of life's major areas that isn't somehow due to something else like a personality disorder or substance abuse, etc.
Do you honestly think that people start thinking "what's wrong with me?" when their life is and always has been going just swimmingly?
What? Of course not. There are plenty of happy autistic people. So not sure what you're on about there.
See the bolded parts.
Why assume that they aren't?
Because I'm not assuming they aren't. Even re-reading what I wrote doesn't elucidate any iota of assumption, sorry.
It does appear you are trying to say most self diagnosed don't have problems in life's major areas...since you are challenging 'anyone' who is self diagnosed to have those issues. Maybe it wasn't your intention but it does sort of come off that way.
My poor choice of words, but I was using passive voice, I "would" --not I challenge. but oh well. Thanks for clarifying where people would not get what I was saying.
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03 Dec 2012, 5:55 pm
babybuggy32 wrote:
an autism diagnosisis is certainly not hard to get nowadays many personality disorder share traits with aspergers too. also learning disabilities. what makes you guys so sure it is autism?
no one has yet explained why they came to this conclusion
many personality disorder share traits with aspergers too. also learning disabilities. what makes you guys so sure it is autism?no one has yet explained why they came to this conclusion
If you have money. My diagnosis cost $1600. I couldn't have done that on my own.
03 Dec 2012, 5:58 pm
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03 Dec 2012, 5:58 pm
babybuggy32 wrote:
an autism diagnosisis is certainly not hard to get nowadays many personality disorder share traits with aspergers too. also learning disabilities. what makes you guys so sure it is autism?
no one has yet explained why they came to this conclusion
many personality disorder share traits with aspergers too. also learning disabilities. what makes you guys so sure it is autism?no one has yet explained why they came to this conclusion
Really? Maybe its different where you live......because there sure as hell aren't a lot of resources for getting an autism diagnoses as an adult around here especially if you don't have income. In my case I am sure its not a learning disability since the only academic subject I struggle with is math and sucking at math does not cause sensory issues or trouble socializing. As for a personality disorder being to blame, people aren't generally born with personality disorders so that would not account for the issues I've had since childhood.
Though I think its possible for people with autism to develop personality disorders but its more complex to diagnose since autism already causes abnormal behavior. So that is how I came about the conclusion its most likely autism that's caused the sensory issues, trouble socializing and differences of how i process information or whatever.
03 Dec 2012, 5:58 pm
babybuggy32 wrote:
an autism diagnosisis is certainly not hard to get nowadays many personality disorder share traits with aspergers too. also learning disabilities. what makes you guys so sure it is autism?
no one has yet explained why they came to this conclusion
many personality disorder share traits with aspergers too. also learning disabilities. what makes you guys so sure it is autism?no one has yet explained why they came to this conclusion
Actually....Most of us have....in other threads.
And if you want to get right down to the truth of the matter, there is an issue of trust regardless. Someone can SAY they have a diagnosis....but unless I see the paperwork, I don't have any independent confirmation that they are not lying. Its the internet...people do such things.
So if someone says they ARE NOT diagnosed, they are being upfront about it. How many folks are just not mentioning they dont have a real diagnosis...no way to tell.
and even if its NOT autism....
'Wrong Planet is the web community designed for individuals (and parents / professionals of those) with Autism, Asperger's Syndrome, ADHD, PDDs, and other neurological differences.'
So other then us claiming to have an official diagnosis when we don't (which I haven't seen happening much), partipating in threads where we have a symptom or share a particular feeling, is allowed.
03 Dec 2012, 6:01 pm
babybuggy32 wrote:
an autism diagnosisis is certainly not hard to get nowadays many personality disorder share traits with aspergers too. also learning disabilities. what makes you guys so sure it is autism?
no one has yet explained why they came to this conclusion
Uh, yes it is. There are places where the professionals who do this are far and between - and expensive to get to or see. Even health insurance doesn't cover all costs. In my case both parents are deceased, so the childhood information isn't there, except what I recall. And at this point in my life - already retired - I really don't see the point.
many personality disorder share traits with aspergers too. also learning disabilities. what makes you guys so sure it is autism?no one has yet explained why they came to this conclusion
I find your OP insulting, frankly, and a bit arrogant. You assume a lot about people who are self-diagnosed, and I think you exhibit some ignorance about the spectrum itself. Asperger's, for instance, has only been diagnosed in anyone in recent decades. It's usually diagnosed in children, less often in adults. In my case, I didn't know what it was until I was past 50. But I always knew there was something odd about me - well lots of oddities in fact. Someone who has a diagnosed child first steered me toward the idea, and I completely dismissed it. But when I was going through a particularly stressful time and had a major meltdown, and started to wonder why that happens to me under stress and not to everyone else around me, I started researching. I actually did see a therapist around that time, but it turned out she knew less about AS than I did. (Although I didn't get a discount for her ignorance.)
But really if all the diagnosed people don't want us here, maybe they should just let us know. I don't stay where I'm not welcome.
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