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12 Jan 2013, 3:11 am

Severe impairment in reciprocal social interaction (at least two of the following)
inability to interact with peers DEPENDS
lack of desire to interact with peers YES
lack of appreciation of social cues SOMETIMES
socially and emotionally inappropriate behavior SOMETIMES
All-absorbing narrow interest (at least one of the following)
exclusion of other activities YES
repetitive adherence YES
more rote than meaning NO
Imposition of routines and interests (at least one of the following)
on self, in aspects of life YES
on others NO
Speech and language problems (at least three of the following)
delayed development NO
superficially perfect expressive language YES
formal, pedantic language YES
odd prosody, peculiar voice characteristics NO
impairment of comprehension including misinterpretations of literal/implied meanings SOMETIMES
Non-verbal communication problems (at least one of the following)
limited use of gestures YES
clumsy/gauche body language YES
limited facial expression NO
inappropriate expression NO
peculiar, stiff gaze YES
Motor clumsiness: poor performance on neurodevelopmental examination YES

Apparently I could fit this criteria too.


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12 Jan 2013, 4:57 am

I pass except for the language part.. I've always been a good speller and get annoyed by bad grammar.. I'm not really the best judge of whether my speech is odd to others, although people have said I don't waste words (some people seem to take 10 sentences to explain what I do in 1).



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12 Jan 2013, 3:02 pm

TonyHoyle wrote:
[...]although people have said I don't waste words (some people seem to take 10 sentences to explain what I do in 1).

Ha, exactly the same here!
Example: My brother once needed a bunch of sentences (maybe 7 or 8 ) to explain the reason why he was upset to my mother.
I noticed my mother was just confused and didn't quite understand it, so I started talking (yes, this is a big event here at home! :lol:). I said:
"He's registered at [online store] and has a premium account which grants him privilegues like no shipping costs and fast delivery within one or two days. The mail didn't arrive in time and he feels like they broke the contract." - my mother even interrupted me and said "okay, now I got it, thank you" at some part but I don't know which one anymore. We then had to laugh at what a contrast I am compared to my brother. This is of course a poor translation of how I said it, sometimes I even leave out words that seem unnecessary to me.


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13 Jan 2013, 12:05 am

The only one that doesn't fit is the "imposition of routines and interests". For some reason, I have a hard time understanding this; although, when I think about it, it drives me crazy when people do certain things in a way other than what I would do...


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13 Jan 2013, 10:39 am

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Severe impairment in reciprocal social interaction (at least two of the following):
1-3 criteria met?
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inability to interact with peers

No. I interact.
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lack of desire to interact with peers

Reduced, not absent. Does that count?
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lack of appreciation of social cues

I guess. When I was younger, I was pretty much oblivious. Now, I'm a lot better at reading people, but struggle a bit to do it 'on-line' in interaction. It's mild, but I'd say it's still present.
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socially and emotionally inappropriate behavior

Not exactly sure what this means, but I think I fit it. I have been known to be unintentionally rude. I also have very little concern about authority, and appealing to authority alone always fails on me, which is unusual.
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All-absorbing narrow interest (at least one of the following):
Maybe 1? Odd, I'd have expected to fit a criteria about intense interests, but they seem to have a very narrow and negative definition of intense interest here.
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exclusion of other activities

No. Well, maybe. Sometimes.
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repetitive adherence

No.
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more rote than meaning

Definitely not. I'm all about the meaning.
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Imposition of routines and interests (at least one of the following):
1 or 2, I think?
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on self, in aspects of life

Do they mean daily routines, or do event routines count? I don't insist on doing the same thing every day, but if I'm doing X today, I usually insist on doing X the same way. Not nearly as much as the LFA kids I've worked with, though.
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on others

To a certain extent, my event routines sometimes need cooperation from others. But often they don't. I guess interests is more clear here, because probably 80% of my conversations consist of info-dumping about my current interest.
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Speech and language problems (at least three of the following):
2 or 3?
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delayed development

No.
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superficially perfect expressive language

What does this mean? I don't have obvious expressive language problems. Do they mean that, or the speech somehow being 'more perfect' than normal speech?
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formal, pedantic language

No.
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odd prosody, peculiar voice characteristics

My Dad says yes, but mild. My voice is slightly less animated, but most people wouldn't notice.
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impairment of comprehension including misinterpretations of literal/implied meanings

Implied? Yes. With regards to literalism, I wrote a blog entry about it. To summarize - I usually know the figurative meaning, but react as if the literal meaning was true.
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Non-verbal communication problems (at least one of the following):
1-3?
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limited use of gestures

I don't know. I think I gesture. Never really paid attention.
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clumsy/gauche body language

I'm clumsy, but I don't think this affects my body language noticeably.
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limited facial expression

I think maybe? If so, it's slight.
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inappropriate expression

I sometimes smile and laugh when scared, and not as a deliberate attempt to hide emotions. So, yes. Only in limited circumstances, but when it does occur it gets me in a lot of trouble (one of my biggest fears is conflict with others - I don't tend to avoid it, but it does terrify me).
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peculiar, stiff gaze

I don't think so. Maybe slightly reduced eye contact. I've noticed I recognize faces better if I make a conscious effort to pay attention to a person's face, and on this one cognitive test I was much poorer than normal at spotting half-visible faces flashing by quickly.
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Motor clumsiness: poor performance on neurodevelopmental examination

Not been formally assessed, but I used training wheels longer, and have been making considerably slower progress than most white belts in karate. In gym class I was the one no one wanted on their team (though fortunately my schools assigned teams instead of making kids pick, so I didn't get the 'last picked' humiliation). Also, when I'm tired I get poor balance and my legs randomly buckle underneath me.

Man, this thing is confusingly worded! I don't know if I meet Gillberg criteria. Maybe just barely, maybe just barely miss it.



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26 Apr 2013, 4:02 pm

Severe impairment in reciprocal social interaction (at least two of the following)
inability to interact with peers - Yes
lack of desire to interact with peers - Yes
lack of appreciation of social cues - Yes
socially and emotionally inappropriate behavior - Yes (although my social intelligence is substantially lower than my EI).

All-absorbing narrow interest (at least one of the following)
exclusion of other activities - Yes
repetitive adherence - Yes
more rote than meaning - No

Imposition of routines and interests (at least one of the following)
on self, in aspects of life - Yes
on others - Yes (very common in the preadolescence years).

Speech and language problems (at least three of the following)
delayed development - Yes
superficially perfect expressive language - Yes
formal, pedantic language - Yes
odd prosody, peculiar voice characteristics - Yes
impairment of comprehension including misinterpretations of literal/implied meanings - Yes

Non-verbal communication problems (at least one of the following)
limited use of gestures - Yes
clumsy/gauche body language - Yes
limited facial expression - Yes
inappropriate expression - Yes
peculiar, stiff gaze - Yes

Motor clumsiness: poor performance on neurodevelopmental examination

(My motor skills are so insufficient that I would never be considered eligible for joining a sports contest or the military force, as my coordination abilities wouldn't pertain the necessitations; however, my coordination development was ascertained by a child psychologist, not a neurodevelopmental paediatrician).
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19 Aug 2023, 7:49 pm

Severe impairment in reciprocal social interaction (at least two of the following)
inability to interact with peers - yes
lack of desire to interact with peers - no
lack of appreciation of social cues - yes
socially and emotionally inappropriate behavior - yes
All-absorbing narrow interest (at least one of the following)
exclusion of other activities - yes
repetitive adherence - yes
more rote than meaning - yes
Imposition of routines and interests (at least one of the following)
on self, in aspects of life - yes
on others - yes
Speech and language problems (at least three of the following)
delayed development - yes
superficially perfect expressive language - no
formal, pedantic language - yes
odd prosody, peculiar voice characteristics - yes
impairment of comprehension including misinterpretations of literal/implied meanings - yes
Non-verbal communication problems (at least one of the following)
limited use of gestures - no
clumsy/gauche body language - yes
limited facial expression - no
inappropriate expression - no
peculiar, stiff gaze - yes
Motor clumsiness: poor performance on neurodevelopmental examination - yes

I fit enough of the Gillbergs’ criteria.


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20 Aug 2023, 8:06 am

I definitely meet most of the criteria. There is one, however, that I think is wrong and should not be in there at all. It's the one that says more rote than meaning. They can't assume that things we do have no meaning. Every single thing I do in my thoughts, actions, vocalizations, and behaviors, have a meaning. Nothing I do is rote. People who don't understand me might assume it's rote but it never is. So I think they should either change or omit that one. Making people think that some or our behaviors have no meaning or reason is a very bad a scary thing.


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21 Aug 2023, 11:40 pm

more rote than meaning - yes
I actually meant no on this one.


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