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27 Dec 2012, 7:59 pm

Yes.

Tried Zoloft for about a month, but it caused akathisia,

Currently on Prozac. Not as effective as Zoloft, but it doesn't make me feel like someone is pouring acid down my spine.


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28 Dec 2012, 2:18 am

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Diagnosed with Dysthymic Disorder and on a low dose of Prozac for a while. And it's the opposite with seasons, I get totally stressed out from April to October due to the intense light, the heat (I can't stand the feeling of sun on my skin) and everyone going out and yelling around. Therefore, I need antidepressants from spring to fall.
I'm the same way with light and heat. I could easily live in a house without windows and I'm intending to become a sleep technician, so I can work almost entirely at night and sleep during the day. my depression is triggered by disruptions in my routine and isn't seasonal (except to the extent that school is seasonal in a sense and often disrupts my routines) and I'm much happier on dark and even rainy days than I am in direct sunlight.


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28 Dec 2012, 4:02 am

I used to take antidepressants, with very bad side effects (tired all the time, low energy, low libido). After a few years of anti-depressant hell I did some research on the supposed purpose of SSRIs and found out about L-tryptophan and 5-HTP, part of the serotonin production process. Because I had so many bad side effects from SSRIs, I decided to get off them completely and take 5-HTP instead, which is available over the counter. I also started drinking a lot of milk (has a lot of L-tryptophan) and taking a vitamin b6 from time to time.

I literally almost completely got over my depression and social awkwardness.


My theory is that my low serotonin level was responsible for my Asperger's, due to having low energy which results in being "dull" and "socially unaware." So if any of you are on SSRIs, it might be a much better idea to take 5-HTP instead. It's much safer. 5-HTP is found in food after all (though in insignificant quantities), so it's not a pure drug like an SSRI.



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28 Dec 2012, 4:26 am

I don't know what I had/have - whether depression or anxiety. I was on various medications, but none of them worked. I kept taking them as instructed by the doctor for an extended period. But they did nothing. No effect or side effect. It was as if I wasn't taking any medication at all. So when I finally abruptly stopped taking them against my doctor's advice, there was also no withdrawal symptoms. My anxiety/depression is much better now, but when I was struggling with it, the fact that there was no medication that could help me feel better was quite frightening.



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28 Dec 2012, 5:18 am

Stop using brand names!! !! !! !!

I take Sertraline for OCD.


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28 Dec 2012, 5:19 am

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if you do this for long enough it can burn out receptors for the neurotransmitters that make you happy and relaxed and content, which causes depression. this is why people with depression are often treated with medicines called SSRIs or SNRIs, which keep those chemicals that make you able to be happy or peaceful stay out in the open longer and thus have more of a change for your smaller-than-average number of receptors to receive them and make you something other than depressed. I'm on 20mg of Lexapro per day, which is an SSRI. [b]the vast majority of antidepressants are not "happy pills", they just keep the neuroreceptors you already make from being re-absorbed as quickly, enabling your brain to get the "it's ok" signals that it's supposed to be getting.[/b


So those with Anxiety disorders have less neuroreceptors?

Ativan has been the only drug I've ever been prescribed that has actually eliminated anxiety. Beta-blockers help indirectly by keeping my heart from racing. I take it off-label.



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28 Dec 2012, 9:56 am

Sertraline and trazodone.



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28 Dec 2012, 10:18 am

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So those with Anxiety disorders have less neuroreceptors?

Ativan has been the only drug I've ever been prescribed that has actually eliminated anxiety. Beta-blockers help indirectly by keeping my heart from racing. I take it off-label.
well, my psychiatrist explained that the reason I was having severe depressive episodes (and I do mean severe, at the time this conversation was happening it was the first place I'd gone other than my bed - with minimal trips to the bathroom or kitchen - for 6 months) was because I had been stressed for so long that to cope with an overabundance of "alertness" type neurotransmitters (as in "oh s**t oh s**t!" alertness) my brain had shut down a significant portion of my receptors, especially for seratonin, and as a result anything other than a large inundation of stimulus (which I was getting from a codependent one-sided romantic relationship at the time) was not going to "reach" those few receptors which were still active.

several years later he told me that I probably primarily had social anxiety disorder and that depression was just a secondary symptom, and several years after that it was decided by a different psychologist that I was an aspie and that THAT was why I had social anxiety disorder, though I think being the queer son of full-time, paid "traditional family values" advocates probably had a lot to do with my stress level as well.

it's not that people with Anxiety disorders or depression have fewer neuroreceptors overall (I don't think), just that it's thought they have fewer for the specific neurotransmitters involved in things like alertness, pleasure, initiative, and the like.


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28 Dec 2012, 10:21 am

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So if any of you are on SSRIs, it might be a much better idea to take 5-HTP instead. It's much safer. 5-HTP is found in food after all (though in insignificant quantities), so it's not a pure drug like an SSRI.
but talk to your doctor first because quitting your medication cold-turkey without consulting a physician is a great way to become suicidal, and taking medical advice from unqualified non-professionals over the internet is, frankly, as stupid as giving said advise is irresponsible.


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28 Dec 2012, 1:42 pm

Ca2MgFe5Si8O22OH2 wrote:
TheTrade wrote:
So if any of you are on SSRIs, it might be a much better idea to take 5-HTP instead. It's much safer. 5-HTP is found in food after all (though in insignificant quantities), so it's not a pure drug like an SSRI.
but talk to your doctor first because quitting your medication cold-turkey without consulting a physician is a great way to become suicidal, and taking medical advice from unqualified non-professionals over the internet is, frankly, as stupid as giving said advise is irresponsible.



No, what's irresponsible is the mass amount of psychiatrists overprescribing SSRIs for depression, that has the following side effects:


anhedonia
apathy
nausea/vomiting
drowsiness or somnolence
headache (very common as a short-term side effect)
bruxism
tinnitus
extremely vivid or strange dreams
dizziness
fatigue
mydriasis (pupil dilation)
urinary retention
changes in appetite
insomnia and/or changes in sleep
excessive diarrhea
weight loss/gain (measured by a change in bodyweight of 7 pounds)
increased risk of bone fractures and injuries
changes in sexual behaviour (see the next section)
increased feelings of depression and anxiety (which may sometimes provoke panic attacks)
mania and psychotic disorders
tremors (and other symptoms of Parkinsonism in vulnerable elderly patients)[16]
autonomic dysfunction including orthostatic hypotension, increased or reduced sweating
akathisia
renal impairment
Restless legs syndrome
suicidal ideation (thoughts of suicide)
photosensitivity[17]
Paresthesia
dissociative disorders, cognitive disorders and loss of contact with reality
Syndrome of inappropriate antidiuretic hormone hypersecretion



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29 Dec 2012, 1:44 am

I've had pretty much all of those side effects, yeah they kinda suck, and cause more problems than solve.



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30 Dec 2012, 7:19 am

I always have the greatest depression in December, although, paradoxically, Christmas and New Year is my favorite holiday, apart my birthday :D



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30 Dec 2012, 7:35 am

Yeah, but not for depression. Seems to help the OCD somewhat and the Panic Disorder immensely.

That's Zoloft/Sertraline



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30 Dec 2012, 7:58 am

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I was first diagnosed with depression & anxiety in 2000, and took venlafaxine. It made me very physically unwell but I stuck it out for 6 months before quitting. No idea if it helped or not. Didn't really feel any improvement.

After that I just tried to ignore it and get on with life until 2005 when a friend of mine insisted I go to the doctor because she was worried about me. It was put down to depression & anxiety again. I was on fluoxetine for a short while, but switched to citalopram which I took until 2008. I never really felt it did anything for me.

Then I was diagnosed with an ASD in 2011, but was having significant difficulties that I believed were related to depression & anxiety. The psychiatrist insisted that I was not depressed, and that everything was due to anxiety. But that all changed when I was hospitalised in October for repeated serious self harm/suicide attempts. I was diagnosed with depression and put on trazodone. I do believe the trazodone does make some difference, but they've also just added lamotrigine (which I had previously been on as a mood stabiliser) to "boost" the trazodone.


trazadone! now that's one i haven't heard about in a long time. everyone seems so keen to shove the newest SSRI or SNRI at you these days. I can testify that Effexor and Cymbalta have been hell to take. I started out years ago on this one med I can't recall the name of. then they put me on trazadone and it seemed to work fine for awhile. Then Prozac was a big thing. It stopped working after a year or so. Then onto Effexor. A few years then it stopped working. Then on to Cymbalta. It worked for 6 months and that was it. And the only reason I still take it is the discontinuance syndrome ends up putting me in the hospital where they just put me back on it at a higher dose or put me on something newer.

Do you have any problems with trazadone making you get dry mouth and sinuses?


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30 Dec 2012, 8:10 am

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No, what's irresponsible is the mass amount of psychiatrists overprescribing SSRIs for depression, that has the following side effects:


*Nods emphatically*

Another thing that's bad about SSRI's and SNRI's is discontinuance syndrome. I can't even begin to describe the nightmare of coming off Effexor when I lost my insurance and before I got Medicare from my disability. It doesn't even work anymore but I'm terrified to come off of it because getting off the Effexor put me through hell for a whole month before I even began to feel somewhat normal again.

And I hate how they changed the language, calling it discontinuance syndrome when what they mean is withdrawal and addiction.

"Don't piss down my leg and tell me it's rain." --I have no clue who said this. :lol:

I think most mental health professionals are a danger to the well being of the mentally ill.


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13 Jan 2013, 1:17 am

Not sure if this is relevant; but my doctor prescribed generic paxil from walmart before my health insurance ended.
I can buy generic Paxil, 3-months worth, for ten bucks at walmart without health insurance. I have 2 or 3 times to renew.

Maybe check if they have generic effexor?


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