Dark Triad Personality Test

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Narcissism
Score: 2.1
Percentile: 36.7

Machiavellianism
Score: 2.1
Percentile: 37.9

Psychopathy
Score: 1.8
Percentile: 42

"The typical recipe of how to make a narcissist is to have someone think there is something fundamentally wrong with them, which they then will counter with a fragile high sense of self-worth as a survival mechanism."

I definitely agree with this and it applies to me. If I didn't shore up my low self-esteem concerning certain aspects of myself with having a high opinion of myself in others I would have probably killed myself by now, so it is definitely a survival mechanism - an ego defence mechanism. So in that respect is it even a 'fault' if it keeps you alive? Surely it's more of a necessary/logical adaptation?

Agree. I think narcissism gets an unjustified bad rap. Then there's the difference between what is clinical disorder and just self-love, and who gets to decide the amount of love someone gets to have for themselves, you know?

Narcissism 0.9
Machiavellianism 0.9
Psychopathy 0.6

I put 90% sure of my answers (sometimes there was a difference between thought and feeling there).

Narcissism 1.9 27.2

Machiavellianism 0.9 3.4

Psychopathy 1 15.2

I think to even qualify for the dark triad, you have to have a exemplification of the McDonald Triad (thats the scale that assess the ability to act Sociopathically, or have a solid APD or NPD Diagnosis). As has been discusssed on this forum before, Aspies and Autistics lack the ability to possess either disorder in my opinion (as usually APD and NPD require a very high charisma score, with a +5 modifier).

I doubt any true aspie would exhibit machiavellian personality traits.

But I could be wrong.

I'll be one. My results are;


Narcissism Score: 1.5 Percentile: 13

Machiavellianism Score: 1 Percentile: 5

Psychopathy Score: 0.4 Percentile: 2.4

I am pretty sure that my father both has autistic traits and would qualify for a " narcissistic personality disorder" diagnosis.

Narcissism: 74.7
Machiavellianism: 22.8
Psychopathy: 42

Not as bad as I was expecting actually

Like someone said though I think this test may not be inaccurate. Like, thinking that most people have a mean streak doesn't automatically mean that you're cold and manipulative, it just means you think other people are. Some of these statements seem like simple cynicism. One of them is even "I am cynical", which doesn't actually imply anything about your behavior. Similarly, thinking that most people get ahead by hurting others, or whatever it is, doesn't mean that you're going to do that. I tend to view most people as dishonest, but I'm very honest (perhaps too much so).

The issue with narcissism isn't loving yourself; it's more that you love yourself more than you love others. If you think you're pretty great and so is everybody else, you're not a narcissist, just an optimist. But if you think you're great and everybody else sucks, then you're in the sort of precarious position that'll see you knocked off the pedestal you've placed yourself on once you realize you're as human as everybody else is.

Narcissism 5.8%
Machiavellianism 14.3%
Psychopathy 0.8%

Hmm. I thought I would score higher on narcissism. I think most of the questions on the test did have that "I think I'm better than others" vibe to it, though; my particular issue is more with pride than superiority over others. I tend to think too much of myself sometimes, and perhaps expect too much of myself as a result, but I don't really put others into the picture. Maybe what I have an issue with isn't narcissism, but perfectionism. Kind of a "with great power comes great responsibility" thing... minus the spider powers, unfortunately. I don't know when I'm going to learn that I can't expect myself to carry the world around on my back, that there are people who've got talents a good deal better than mine are, and that just because I'm gifted doesn't mean I have the responsibility to cure cancer in my free time or something. But I still can't help feeling that way.

Uhm... so yeah. I have no idea why I scored at the 5.8th percentile. That's kind of weird. I didn't think I was a narcissist, but I didn't think I was unusually non-narcissistic, either.

You're too analytical to be a good narc and you're just horrible at being a psychopath, I'm not sure even tutoring would help.

Interesting

But I would say that by the very reason that you are frequenting an Asperger/ASD discussion board, you probably have higher empathy levels than the average NT

Do you relate to other people easily?

Yes and they should have thrown in a few questions that would point to the McDonald triad too for it to be more accurate.
("Do you really like fire?"/"Did that cute lil bunny deserve it?"/"Do you have special bedsheets?")

There are charismatic auties/aspies too, but maybe another definition of charismatic than the usual... I find passionate and knowledgeable people very charismatic, but know it could bore the ears of many others.

What follows isn't a reply just to you kernel, just some thinking around this whole thing.

There's the problem with the questions used to test those machiavellianism:


Knowing people are bad does not make one a manipulative person. There are plenty of aspies/auties that have been on the receiving end of peoples evil that would agree with those statements without being manipulative. I'm curious about the reasoning behind this, I will have to do some research.



Yes yes yes this!




So you thought something like "I'm not like those people that think they're superior to others - I'm much better than them!"
I didn't think the questions reflected on feeling superior to others in any way. Maybe that was the author of the tests intent, but questions like (paraphrasing here) "Would you rather be around people that like you?" etc does not come across as one "feeling superior". That's just common sense. Maybe there's another test were if you were judgmental about the questions in the first test you'll get some other diagnosis So you obvs have some perfectionism issues and want to save the world, which is not a bad thing always (unless it brings you stress and you get burned out, so take care), but it is also not your job to "knock people down to where you think they belong/off the pedestal/make them think they're human/alot of other worrying things about narcissists", if you get a whiff of someone liking themselves, and they do it with no bad implications towards you.
I dislike the "general you" used. I know it was not directed at me, but still. I agree that it's a question of intent re: self-love, and I know all about the facts of the disorder already, but I don't think being cynical and loving oneself (with the same cynicism applied to oneself also, of course) is bad. I really don't.



What? She wouldn't make a good police?

If I'm honest, when you've challenged some of my posts on here it's really got my goat and I see you as a pedantic person who often seems to want to prove me wrong lol

I'm often more of an 'I'm right because I say I am' type of person whereas you are an 'I'll prove I'm right' type person, which is obviously going to be an irritant to my type!

Saying that I do usually use logic and examples to demonstrate my point but I tend to lose interest when things get too technical and statistical as my brain isn't good at that kind of thing so if I can't even understand a lot of it or it's too convoluted and reliant on what someone else has said in their research I switch off as I am always suspicious of statistics and research as people can make it say what they like really.

"it is also not your job to "knock people down to where you think they belong/off the pedestal/make them think they're human/alot of other worrying things about narcissists", if you get a whiff of someone liking themselves, and they do it with no bad implications towards you."

I'm guilty of doing this - if I think a person is too arrogant or trying to put me or others 'back in their place' it annoys me and I tend to try and take them down a peg or two. I can't abide people with what I call a 'superiority complex' and see it as a challenge to prove they're 'not all that'

It's always amusing to see how angry they get at having their position challenged by a person they'd initially totally dismissed too! Like they thought you were just a fly they could swat but you were a wasp really and come back to sting them!