Do you feel too 'mild' for WP?
I feel more severe then most users on here and I am getting frustrated that none of you really think the same way I do. A good chunk of users on here seem to be able to relate to situations with people in them (popular culture, movies, fictional characters, anime, famous people) and they turn around and say they cant relate to people in real life which is a bit of a contradiction. I find it difficult to relate to either real people or fictional characters no matter how much social exposure I have so I stick to reading non-fiction exclusively. People say they have obsessions but they are never seem to be about objects and seem to be about real people or fictional characters. I find it difficult to relate to users on here who put pictures of real people or characters in their avatars. I only obsess about objects like space probes (my current obsession). Also people on here seem to have very long winded emotionally charged arguments with walls of text contrary to how I would think an autistic would act. I don't get very emotionally involved at all and call people out for acting on their emotions. Walls of text seem logically a waste of time because I feel like I would be talking into the void of the internet. Also there is a lot of conspiracy thinking on this board which I find odd because I know my detest for conspiracy thinking comes from my overly rigid logical way of thinking and I would expect an autism community to stray away from this kind of thought.
Secondly, I often receive unhelpful advice from some members here. Like if I say about people staring at me funny in public, I often get the reply ''you're probably doing something odd what you don't know about'', and I'm like, ''no, it's not like that....'' and it just becomes too difficult to explain about how self-aware I am. Also when I talk about Social Phobia and worrying too much about what people think of me, I just get the reply ''just don't worry about what people think of you any more''. It's so hard to just do that when you've got the same sort of self-awareness as the average NT.
I often think i am like Joe 90 in so many ways..i go through a lot of the very same issues..and often get the same reaction from people
on the outside i look normal..but inside not mild by any means....always hearing don't worry about what people think!.....but kind of hard to get past that...my social phobia is the worst part of my condition.
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Sometimes. But then I think about my childhood and things I've dealt with throughout my life that have made me the person I am. I also think about stims I do, strange quirks, and so on. I feel I actually identify a lot with the people on this website; they offer good advice and I can see myself in a lot of their situations.
Secondly, I often receive unhelpful advice from some members here. Like if I say about people staring at me funny in public, I often get the reply ''you're probably doing something odd what you don't know about'', and I'm like, ''no, it's not like that....'' and it just becomes too difficult to explain about how self-aware I am. Also when I talk about Social Phobia and worrying too much about what people think of me, I just get the reply ''just don't worry about what people think of you any more''. It's so hard to just do that when you've got the same sort of self-awareness as the average NT.
I once pm'ed you, saying you could send me a photo of yourself and I would see if there was anything that might be causing people to stare but you didn't even reply. I thought that was quite an NT-style reaction and made me switch off from bothering to read your posts to be quite honest.
I was going to but due to my stupidness I don't know how to post pictures on WP, I have used photobucket or something else similar but it was still confusing.
Also I get the feeling that I will post a picture of me looking ordinary and (not personally aimed at you) but the viewer will probably look for any tiny detail and say ''yes that's why people look at you'', like a finger moved a centimeter away from where it ''should'' be, or a shoelace having a microscopic detail like one bow being tied a teeny bit bigger than the other bow or something, or something else far-fetched like that. Then I'd be like ''OK I didn't know people have to be a perfectionist just to go out in public''.
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I think individuals with autism have the potential to have better self-awareness than the average NT because we have more incentives to work on it.
Not sure about this.
I don't realize I'm doing something wrong in a social situation (even not a social one), because I think everything I do is fine and perfectly normal.
I don't think it's normal, but I'm often pretty unsure and confused about what to do. Then, I have a heightened sensitivity to people's reactions to what I do, such that I may blow out of proportion small issues or non-issues, to the point that I become socially avoidant.
I say this to reassure members who think they are not autistic enough for this board. The fact that you have mild ASD symptoms could likely mean you have more severe co-morbids, which means your actual social functioning could be as low or lower than someone with far more autism. With more awareness, comes more anxiety, which magnifies existing autistic traits. Thus, increased functioning and social avoidance caused by anxiety resulting from being higher functioning may completely cancel each other out, so you are not really as high functioning as the psychiatrist thinks you are.
My level of severity alternates between "mild" and "moderate" depending on my situation.
I can relate to some people better than others, but, no, I don't feel like I'm too "mild" for WP.
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I'm a mixture of both severe and mild traits.
I've learned a lot about empathy lately. Not just having it but understanding it through analysis of people's reactions to things. I think it's more pronounced than most NTs. The ADHD community helped me some and a lot of psychology books. So when I come here I have to remind myself that people here will be blunt and not as understanding about why people act the way they do. And sometimes I can be as equally as impaired by it. It's probably just my ADHD meds that make me really have time to gain some more understanding about the words and motivations of others.
I have severe sensory issues that can limit my experiences. I've also had a regression of skills. While my autism has gotten worse so has my hyperactivity.
There's still a lot I can relate to here though. I'm still learning very basic social skills that NTs just give the impression are obvious things. I might share the latest one in another thread. See what people think.
Don't worry about not appearing autistic enough. I was once like that but now I can't control stimming, I'm impulsive in my words though I have more of an idea on appropriate conversation topics (sometimes I just say it anyway) and I have a whole lot more outbursts/meltdowns. I think it's my PDA/ODD.
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A few people here (the only ones to comment directly on what they perceive my severity to be) say that I am not mild, and my therapy records say that autism is my most impairing problem and that I am significantly impaired, so I do not think I am too mild.
I don't really think anyone is too mild to be here. You can be an NT and participate, after all.
Secondly, I often receive unhelpful advice from some members here. Like if I say about people staring at me funny in public, I often get the reply ''you're probably doing something odd what you don't know about'', and I'm like, ''no, it's not like that....'' and it just becomes too difficult to explain about how self-aware I am. Also when I talk about Social Phobia and worrying too much about what people think of me, I just get the reply ''just don't worry about what people think of you any more''. It's so hard to just do that when you've got the same sort of self-awareness as the average NT.
I once pm'ed you, saying you could send me a photo of yourself and I would see if there was anything that might be causing people to stare but you didn't even reply. I thought that was quite an NT-style reaction and made me switch off from bothering to read your posts to be quite honest.
I was going to but due to my stupidness I don't know how to post pictures on WP, I have used photobucket or something else similar but it was still confusing.
Also I get the feeling that I will post a picture of me looking ordinary and (not personally aimed at you) but the viewer will probably look for any tiny detail and say ''yes that's why people look at you'', like a finger moved a centimeter away from where it ''should'' be, or a shoelace having a microscopic detail like one bow being tied a teeny bit bigger than the other bow or something, or something else far-fetched like that. Then I'd be like ''OK I didn't know people have to be a perfectionist just to go out in public''.
That's an ok reason - I'm fine with that. I had thought your reason for not replying was that you had thought I was weird for asking to see a photo and it made me start thinking perhaps it came across as weird and stalkerish to another person. I did also think it wasn't a good idea anyway as it would only be my opinion ie I can't speak for anyone but myself.
People are just very varied in their response to others - to some you will always be fine just as you are but to others you'll never be good enough but it doesn't matter as who are they to judge anyway?
I think half the problem is expecting the ASD community to be filled with people just like yourself. It's a nice idea but the reality is the opposite. As we are generally more individual, often through having a lack of other people to interact with or not wanting to interact with others, we are less likely to find common ground in my opinion. We're more comfortable doing our own thing a lot of the time so how are we likely to be similar?
Also we have a liking for sameness and consistency so adapting to the differences and unpredictability in people is hard work for us rather than something to find energising as NTs tend to do.
Then there's the extrovert/introvert split. I would expect there to be extroverts on here looking to make friends and socially bond with others but also introverts for whom this is their only social interaction so there's bound to be a lot of differences in nature and attitude. The main thing is not to let the louder, more socially confident posters overwhelm you as there's room for everyone to make their point and be heard.
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There are times that I feel that I'm less intelligent than most of the people here. I don't care for the words mild and severe. I find that some threads are difficult for me to participate in, because the previous posters have been having an in depth conversation about something technical, logical or mathematical. I post about cute and simple things like special interests, Sweet Peas and feelings. I don't really have a problem with that, though. I feel that there's a place for every member on WP.
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