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10 Feb 2013, 3:33 pm

I have never stolen anything in my entire life and don't see the point in doing so.



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10 Feb 2013, 7:50 pm

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I have never stolen anything in my entire life and don't see the point in doing so.


I knew I was not the only one. :D



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11 Feb 2013, 4:06 am

I stole a pencil from elementary school once when I was a kid, felt so ashamed that I couldn't sleep for the entire night so I had to bring it back.



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11 Feb 2013, 9:00 am

I have never stolen anything (aside from downloading 20 year old games I can't buy) and the one time I took a (free) plastic bag as a child my mother started driving back to the store and was going to 'turn me in' to the manager and make me apologize. I still remember how scared I was and knew if I ever stole anything (which I had no desire to) I should run TO the police and turn myself in as quickly as possible because my mother would have been vicious.



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11 Feb 2013, 10:50 am

I have never stolen anything either, that includes piracy. And, to me, stealing from a large store is just the same as stealing from your neighbour. You might think the large store can afford the loss, but don't ever think that they'll accept it. The cost incurred, due to theft, goes directly onto the price we end up paying for the products, so the customer is the one who loses. If theft is covered by insurance, insurance premiums go up and prices go up, to accommodate them. So, even if it was morally acceptable to be a kind of modern day Robin Hood, the plan to redress the balance between rich and poor would not work.


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11 Feb 2013, 12:11 pm

Mummy_of_Peanut wrote:
I have never stolen anything either, that includes piracy. And, to me, stealing from a large store is just the same as stealing from your neighbour. You might think the large store can afford the loss, but don't ever think that they'll accept it. The cost incurred, due to theft, goes directly onto the price we end up paying for the products, so the customer is the one who loses. If theft is covered by insurance, insurance premiums go up and prices go up, to accommodate them. So, even if it was morally acceptable to be a kind of modern day Robin Hood, the plan to redress the balance between rich and poor would not work.


When I say I have never stolen I do not mean piracy.

Piracy is not really stealing as nothing is missing and I was never going to buy what I downloaded anyway.



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11 Feb 2013, 1:41 pm

I like doing crime because I dont like other people :twisted:



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11 Feb 2013, 1:48 pm

sharkattack wrote:
Mummy_of_Peanut wrote:
I have never stolen anything either, that includes piracy. And, to me, stealing from a large store is just the same as stealing from your neighbour. You might think the large store can afford the loss, but don't ever think that they'll accept it. The cost incurred, due to theft, goes directly onto the price we end up paying for the products, so the customer is the one who loses. If theft is covered by insurance, insurance premiums go up and prices go up, to accommodate them. So, even if it was morally acceptable to be a kind of modern day Robin Hood, the plan to redress the balance between rich and poor would not work.


When I say I have never stolen I do not mean piracy.

Piracy is not really stealing as nothing is missing and I was never going to buy what I downloaded anyway.


It isn't just things that can be stolen. People's time and work can also be stolen if they do work they are supposed to be paid for and then don't get paid. That's what piracy is. You stole somebody's work and didn't pay them for it. It's no different than hiring somebody to do a job and then refusing to pay them after they have already done it.



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11 Feb 2013, 7:02 pm

Janissy wrote:
sharkattack wrote:
Mummy_of_Peanut wrote:
I have never stolen anything either, that includes piracy. And, to me, stealing from a large store is just the same as stealing from your neighbour. You might think the large store can afford the loss, but don't ever think that they'll accept it. The cost incurred, due to theft, goes directly onto the price we end up paying for the products, so the customer is the one who loses. If theft is covered by insurance, insurance premiums go up and prices go up, to accommodate them. So, even if it was morally acceptable to be a kind of modern day Robin Hood, the plan to redress the balance between rich and poor would not work.


When I say I have never stolen I do not mean piracy.

Piracy is not really stealing as nothing is missing and I was never going to buy what I downloaded anyway.


It isn't just things that can be stolen. People's time and work can also be stolen if they do work they are supposed to be paid for and then don't get paid. That's what piracy is. You stole somebody's work and didn't pay them for it. It's no different than hiring somebody to do a job and then refusing to pay them after they have already done it.


Except with piracy the people who did the work have usually already made a lot of money from it. Unlike hiring someone to do a job and then refusing to pay them afterwards in which case they get absolutely no money from it. I've personally never pirated any music/movies by the way.



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11 Feb 2013, 9:45 pm

Mummy_of_Peanut wrote:
I have never stolen anything either, that includes piracy. And, to me, stealing from a large store is just the same as stealing from your neighbour. You might think the large store can afford the loss, but don't ever think that they'll accept it. The cost incurred, due to theft, goes directly onto the price we end up paying for the products, so the customer is the one who loses. If theft is covered by insurance, insurance premiums go up and prices go up, to accommodate them. So, even if it was morally acceptable to be a kind of modern day Robin Hood, the plan to redress the balance between rich and poor would not work.


I have a hard time buying that with the LIBOR scam perpetuated on the world. The corporate bailouts where execs. were writing themselves $50 million bonus checks with tax payer money after they just plundered their company. Rigged gasoline prices, rigged food prices, etc etc etc.. When was the last time you saw a record label, 'artist', or movie studio offer a discount for poor people who can't afford to buy a CD or watch a movie? Show your food stamp card and get a discount; would that make these corporate whores any less rich? No, it would make them more rich while allowing poor folks to participate in popular culture legally.



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11 Feb 2013, 9:48 pm

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Except with piracy the people who did the work have usually already made a lot of money from it. Unlike hiring someone to do a job and then refusing to pay them afterwards in which case they get absolutely no money from it. I've personally never pirated any music/movies by the way.


The people at Sony, Warners', Universal et al. may have done the work inasmuch as putting the item on the store shelf and their logo on the box, while the bands who wrote and performed their own material (this nulls almost every American Idol winner) split the $.90 they earn from each $10-15 CD among the band members, of course that's after the loan, er advance, is recouped. Speaking as a musician, my chances of a sustainable income are far better working at Best Buy or T-Mobile than as a "signed" act. Download all you want


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11 Feb 2013, 11:27 pm

I've stolen stuff. Almost always out of anger, and twice because I was persuaded by others. (Nope, not blaming anyone else, just pointing out that in those two instances I hadn't stolen on my own accord if they hadn't been there to influence me.)


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