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29 Mar 2013, 3:06 am

That guy is a douche nozzle. I wish I had more advice, I've been in the same situation as you before though. Hopefully the Asperger's Society can help you out, I've never thought of emailing them for advice. Maybe I should.

I've had two failed visits to doctors. First one refused to diagnose me because I was female, claiming it was "too difficult to pick up on in girls", second said, in these words, "Autism is Rain Man. You don't have it" and left it at that. Parents were pissed. I wonder how these people graduate whatever school they went to and got their degree! It's a shame many psychologists are so ignorant about the Autism Spectrum nowadays.



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29 Mar 2013, 9:01 am

Sethno, I carefully read your post. You have encountered an incompetent practitioner. I am sorry you were hurt and taken advatange of......it's not your fault, at all. From my all to real experience(s), people tend to place far, far too much importance onto any given practitioner; as if s/he should have some special knowledge of insight into AS - you will, I promise, be badly disappointed.

In just a few months I'll have my PhD (sort-of related field). Anyway, just like you, I've had some horrific (no, scary) close encounters with such practitioners. Remember, you owe him NOTHING (OK, except you are out some money to pay the guy). You need not justify yourself or explain. If I can add, if you (or anybody else) should encountered such an individual, simply pick up your coat and bag and walk out the door. Do not waste your time/effort/money on him. Ever.

To be really frank (& apologies if this is hard to read - we are all adults here though), I encountered a practitioner (PhD) who had the audacity to show up to my appointments under the influence of alcohol/illicit drug. He telephoned me pat 9pm, drunk, and told me he was (quote) "lonely." He masturbated in my presence at a session.

At that point, my safey was in jeopardy. Trust shattered. I had spent so much time, in tears, trying to teach this man. Please don't waste your time 'teaching' these people - just walk away. Feel free to report him, if you wish, but I can also tell you this mostly goes nowhere.

Just pick yourself up and start over. Best of luck.


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29 Mar 2013, 9:06 am

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Problem is, guys, I don't know who to go to now or what to do.

It took me months to find someone who'd take my insurance, and this had to happen.

Now I likely can't even get another evaluation, because I doubt the insurance people would pay for another. Not any time soon, anyway.

I'm even afraid now that this guy got my Social Security number.

Anyone have any advice on what my next step might be?

I've sent an e-mail to the Asperger's Society that was helping me try to find a doctor to do the evaluation and told them what happened and what the guy said.

Can't wait to hear what they say about it.


He has told you a load of rubbish. Utter clap-trap.

Write to him and complain. Keep it as concise as possible, quote sources of evidence and research that prove otherwise from what he said. Request a response in writing listing his specific reasons that he states you don't have autism, ask which testing tools he used (were they autism specific or random psychological tools) ask him to refer you to another clinician for a 2nd opinion.


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29 Mar 2013, 9:08 am

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He has told you a load of rubbish. Utter clap-trap.Write to him and complain. Keep it as concise as possible, quote sources of evidence and research that prove otherwise from what he said. Request a response in writing listing his specific reasons that he states you don't have autism, ask which testing tools he used (were they autism specific or random psychological tools) ask him to refer you to another clinician for a 2nd opinion.


Yes, that's an idea. But to add: don't waste your time complaining to him (he's not worth it). Instead, complain to his superiors. That is, his licensing board.


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29 Mar 2013, 9:09 am

"Autistics view other people as inanimate objects and understand only that they have feelings themselves. Not that other people do. You interact with people, you converse, and you have a sense of humor. You couldn't possibly be autistic."

He also told me that another sign was that when he gave me some plastic blocks with different colors on them it took me a minute or two to make them match a pattern on a printed sheet he gave me. He claimed an autistic person would have had the blocks arranged in seconds, so I can't possibly be autistic.


Terrible, terrible doctor. If I were you I would get a second opinion. If these are the reasons for not dianosing you, he is an absolute quack.



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29 Mar 2013, 9:11 am

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After four hours of tests and nearly no conversation with me, the doctor said I wasn't autistic.

"Autistics view other people as inanimate objects and understand only that they have feelings themselves. Not that other people do. You interact with people, you converse, and you have a sense of humor. You couldn't possibly be autistic."

He also told me that another sign was that when he gave me some plastic blocks with different colors on them it took me a minute or two to make them match a pattern on a printed sheet he gave me. He claimed an autistic person would have had the blocks arranged in seconds, so I can't possibly be autistic.

Does anyone here think this guy is 20 years behind the times?

Someone tell me, is this doctor a quack?

I'm devastated. I've suspected autism for years and a therapist (totally on his own) asked me if I'd ever been evaluated because he saw some indications. I figured an evaluation would only confirm what I've suspected. Now I don't know what to think.


I havent read the other posts, excuse me, but quick answer - yes he is 20 yrs behind, he needs re-training pronto, and you need to see someone who is a recent graduate or specialist in the field.



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29 Mar 2013, 9:19 am

When I had derealization, I viewed people as inanimate objects lol.

I agree the doctor is probably incompetent. But that doesn't mean you have or don't have autism. My autism only came out because I went crazy from weeed.


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29 Mar 2013, 9:19 am

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Sona_21, BuyerBeware, AgentPalpatine (and anyone else who replies before I get this posted)-

Are you "officially" diagnosed/confirmed by a qualified doctor as on the autism spectrum?


Yes.

And his claims are not only inaccurate and untrue. They are bigoted and damaging. For the sake of auties everywhere, he needs to lose his license.


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29 Mar 2013, 9:20 am

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You interact with people, you converse, and you have a sense of humor. You couldn't possibly be autistic.
If you were good at interacting, good at conversation, and good at using humor, yeah, he'd be right to doubt autism. However, just being able to talk, answer questions, and use some kind of humor is not enough to rule out autism. Many autistic people can do this. Those with mild autism can even look normal for short periods of time.


I have a lot of sense of humour. Indeed, since I discovered that the 'funny guy' character role hides very well any comment or behaviour considered 'weird' I do it a lot.

I don't think that lack of sense of humour has to be (necessarily) an autist feature. Perhaps it helps to hide the 'weirdness' so those autistic who has sense of humour are much less likely to be perceived as autistic.

There was an article about autism and females saying something similar: http://www.forbes.com/sites/emilywillin ... st-autism/ That there's not less autistic females, as it's the common assumption, but they're much better in hiding it, so that makes much more difficult for them to be detected. Humour could play a similar role.


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29 Mar 2013, 9:44 am

Sethno wrote:
"Autistics view other people as inanimate objects and understand only that they have feelings themselves. Not that other people do. You interact with people, you converse, and you have a sense of humor. You couldn't possibly be autistic."



Autistics don't have a sense of humour? Anyone who believes that should take a look at this site

Institute for the Study of the Neurologically Typical



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29 Mar 2013, 9:50 am

LabPet wrote:
whirlingmind wrote:
He has told you a load of rubbish. Utter clap-trap.Write to him and complain. Keep it as concise as possible, quote sources of evidence and research that prove otherwise from what he said. Request a response in writing listing his specific reasons that he states you don't have autism, ask which testing tools he used (were they autism specific or random psychological tools) ask him to refer you to another clinician for a 2nd opinion.


Yes, that's an idea. But to add: don't waste your time complaining to him (he's not worth it). Instead, complain to his superiors. That is, his licensing board.


A complaint to superiors would also be good, but he needs to also be complained to direct first. OP needs his ridiculous statements in writing as to why he states OP doesn't have autism.

BTW OP, I have a great sense of humour, I have never seen people as inanimate objects and it takes me time to arrange things into patterns the same as pictures too. And I am DXd AS, my youngest is DXd HFA and she has a good sense of humour (although really struggles to understand others' humour) too.


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29 Mar 2013, 11:55 am

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When I had derealization, I viewed people as inanimate objects lol.

I agree the doctor is probably incompetent. But that doesn't mean you have or don't have autism. My autism only came out because I went crazy from weeed.

Frying your brain with drugs should NEVER be diagnosed as autism, whoever diagnosed you should be ashamed of themselves.



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29 Mar 2013, 11:55 am

He sounds very, very, very behind the times. How old is this guy, 103? He's going by criteria for severely autistic and or Rett syndrome. Working exclusively on the far end of the spectrum. It's like saying only someone who sees complete and total darkness is legally blind. If I were to get myself tested, I'd get it done at a university psychology department. My local university does it for $500.



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29 Mar 2013, 11:59 am

bizboy1 wrote:
When I had derealization, I viewed people as inanimate objects lol.

I agree the doctor is probably incompetent. But that doesn't mean you have or don't have autism. My autism only came out because I went crazy from weeed.


LOL that was funny, you're not autistic! Wait, I laughed, I'm disqualified too!



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29 Mar 2013, 12:09 pm

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bizboy1 wrote:
When I had derealization, I viewed people as inanimate objects lol.

I agree the doctor is probably incompetent. But that doesn't mean you have or don't have autism. My autism only came out because I went crazy from weeed.

Frying your brain with drugs should NEVER be diagnosed as autism, whoever diagnosed you should be ashamed of themselves.


Huh? You seem childish.


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29 Mar 2013, 12:19 pm

That story of the OP worries me because I'm also about to make an appointment with a psychiatrist for evaluation. There are certain things in me that seem non-autistic.