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31 Mar 2013, 7:56 pm

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Even if I am with a lot of friends in a noisy room, I am alone.


Yes, but you've got a lot of friends to be alone in a room with

that's not the experience of a lot of people with Asperger's Syndrome

I just wonder how the Asperger's Syndrome is manifesting itself in a person with loads of friends seeing as it's a social disability

And now I no longer have any of those friends, period :roll:


So you spoke about something as if it was your current experience but now you're saying it was a past experience?

I guess some people just have difficulty comprehending simple accounts. :roll:



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31 Mar 2013, 8:40 pm

I'm in a relationship, and coming up to our 25th year wedding anniversary, 30 years together.

I was extremely lucky to find someone that wanted to be with me, cause let's face it I'm considered weird.

It hasn't be smooth sailing and added to the pressure of living with me, my wife has had to deal with and Aspie son and a Autistic daughter.

However, being in a relationship hasn't made me feel any less alone. My thought processes are unique, as is with any other Aspie, and although I am a Christian, the thought of God keeping me company is okay, but sometimes I long for someone that I can really talk to and know they will understand me.

A support group helps a little, as when in a group of similar individuals, you definitely have something in common.

Will I ever feel "not alone".... probably not.



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31 Mar 2013, 9:11 pm

Yes i have, except family and work.

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01 Apr 2013, 6:42 am

MannyBoo wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
MannyBoo wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
MannyBoo wrote:
Even if I am with a lot of friends in a noisy room, I am alone.


Yes, but you've got a lot of friends to be alone in a room with

that's not the experience of a lot of people with Asperger's Syndrome

I just wonder how the Asperger's Syndrome is manifesting itself in a person with loads of friends seeing as it's a social disability

And now I no longer have any of those friends, period :roll:


So you spoke about something as if it was your current experience but now you're saying it was a past experience?

I guess some people just have difficulty comprehending simple accounts. :roll:


No, I'd say you changed the story because I challenged it



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01 Apr 2013, 6:48 am

Even with friends and lovers (both of whom have been scarce), yes. Totally alone. More alone than a penguin floating in a void.


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01 Apr 2013, 6:53 am

nessa238 wrote:
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nessa238 wrote:
MannyBoo wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
MannyBoo wrote:
Even if I am with a lot of friends in a noisy room, I am alone.


Yes, but you've got a lot of friends to be alone in a room with

that's not the experience of a lot of people with Asperger's Syndrome

I just wonder how the Asperger's Syndrome is manifesting itself in a person with loads of friends seeing as it's a social disability

And now I no longer have any of those friends, period :roll:


So you spoke about something as if it was your current experience but now you're saying it was a past experience?

I guess some people just have difficulty comprehending simple accounts. :roll:


No, I'd say you changed the story because I challenged it


No, you are just presumptuous and do not know what you are talking about.



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01 Apr 2013, 7:03 am

MannyBoo wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
MannyBoo wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
MannyBoo wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
MannyBoo wrote:
Even if I am with a lot of friends in a noisy room, I am alone.


Yes, but you've got a lot of friends to be alone in a room with

that's not the experience of a lot of people with Asperger's Syndrome

I just wonder how the Asperger's Syndrome is manifesting itself in a person with loads of friends seeing as it's a social disability

And now I no longer have any of those friends, period :roll:


So you spoke about something as if it was your current experience but now you're saying it was a past experience?

I guess some people just have difficulty comprehending simple accounts. :roll:


No, I'd say you changed the story because I challenged it


No, you are just presumptuous and do not know what you are talking about.


I'm happy for you to explain it then

You were initially happy to give people the impression you feel alone when in a room full of friends, implying you have loads
of friends

now you say you don't have those friends any more

why say it in the first place then?

This is not something I would ever do ie imply I had a lot of friends when I didn't

How many friends do you have, honestly

I get very confused by this type of behaviour and just want to find out the facts

I'm not having a go at you, I'm just trying to pin down the truth of the matter

I like to know a person's exact circumstances whereas from my observations many people do not like to give
their exact circumstances at all - they do the very opposite; they say things for effect in other words and the
truth is very hard to get at



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01 Apr 2013, 7:12 am

nessa238 wrote:
MannyBoo wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
MannyBoo wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
MannyBoo wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
MannyBoo wrote:
Even if I am with a lot of friends in a noisy room, I am alone.


Yes, but you've got a lot of friends to be alone in a room with

that's not the experience of a lot of people with Asperger's Syndrome

I just wonder how the Asperger's Syndrome is manifesting itself in a person with loads of friends seeing as it's a social disability

And now I no longer have any of those friends, period :roll:


So you spoke about something as if it was your current experience but now you're saying it was a past experience?

I guess some people just have difficulty comprehending simple accounts. :roll:


No, I'd say you changed the story because I challenged it


No, you are just presumptuous and do not know what you are talking about.


I'm happy for you to explain it then

You were initially happy to give people the impression you feel alone when in a room full of friends, implying you have loads
of friends

now you say you don't have those friends any more

why say it in the first place then?

This is not something I would ever do ie imply I had a lot of friends when I didn't

How many friends do you have, honestly

I get very confused by this type of behaviour and just want to find out the facts

I'm not having a go at you, I'm just trying to pin down the truth of the matter


If you can't pin it down the first time, that's your problem. You don't know me and can not comment about my life in any legitimate way. I don't owe you anything, period.



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01 Apr 2013, 7:15 am

MannyBoo wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
MannyBoo wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
MannyBoo wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
MannyBoo wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
MannyBoo wrote:
Even if I am with a lot of friends in a noisy room, I am alone.


Yes, but you've got a lot of friends to be alone in a room with

that's not the experience of a lot of people with Asperger's Syndrome

I just wonder how the Asperger's Syndrome is manifesting itself in a person with loads of friends seeing as it's a social disability

And now I no longer have any of those friends, period :roll:


So you spoke about something as if it was your current experience but now you're saying it was a past experience?

I guess some people just have difficulty comprehending simple accounts. :roll:


No, I'd say you changed the story because I challenged it


No, you are just presumptuous and do not know what you are talking about.


I'm happy for you to explain it then

You were initially happy to give people the impression you feel alone when in a room full of friends, implying you have loads
of friends

now you say you don't have those friends any more

why say it in the first place then?

This is not something I would ever do ie imply I had a lot of friends when I didn't

How many friends do you have, honestly

I get very confused by this type of behaviour and just want to find out the facts

I'm not having a go at you, I'm just trying to pin down the truth of the matter


If you can't pin it down the first time, that's your problem. You don't know me and can not comment about my life in any legitimate way. I don't owe you anything, period.


You are the one contradicting yourself - one minute you're alone on a room full of friends, the next you aren't friends with them any more

You are now being very defensive - I will draw my own conclusions from this



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01 Apr 2013, 7:19 am

nessa238 wrote:
MannyBoo wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
MannyBoo wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
MannyBoo wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
MannyBoo wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
MannyBoo wrote:
Even if I am with a lot of friends in a noisy room, I am alone.


Yes, but you've got a lot of friends to be alone in a room with

that's not the experience of a lot of people with Asperger's Syndrome

I just wonder how the Asperger's Syndrome is manifesting itself in a person with loads of friends seeing as it's a social disability

And now I no longer have any of those friends, period :roll:


So you spoke about something as if it was your current experience but now you're saying it was a past experience?

I guess some people just have difficulty comprehending simple accounts. :roll:


No, I'd say you changed the story because I challenged it


No, you are just presumptuous and do not know what you are talking about.


I'm happy for you to explain it then

You were initially happy to give people the impression you feel alone when in a room full of friends, implying you have loads
of friends

now you say you don't have those friends any more

why say it in the first place then?

This is not something I would ever do ie imply I had a lot of friends when I didn't

How many friends do you have, honestly

I get very confused by this type of behaviour and just want to find out the facts

I'm not having a go at you, I'm just trying to pin down the truth of the matter


If you can't pin it down the first time, that's your problem. You don't know me and can not comment about my life in any legitimate way. I don't owe you anything, period.


You are the one contradicting yourself - one minute you're alone on a room full of friends, the next you aren't friends with them any more

You are now being very defensive - I will draw my own conclusions from this

No, you are simply annoying, like a buzzing mosquito.

But your sudden obsession with me is creepy. I will draw my own conclusions about you from that.



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01 Apr 2013, 7:26 am

MannyBoo wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
MannyBoo wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
MannyBoo wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
MannyBoo wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
MannyBoo wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
MannyBoo wrote:
Even if I am with a lot of friends in a noisy room, I am alone.


Yes, but you've got a lot of friends to be alone in a room with

that's not the experience of a lot of people with Asperger's Syndrome

I just wonder how the Asperger's Syndrome is manifesting itself in a person with loads of friends seeing as it's a social disability

And now I no longer have any of those friends, period :roll:


So you spoke about something as if it was your current experience but now you're saying it was a past experience?

I guess some people just have difficulty comprehending simple accounts. :roll:


No, I'd say you changed the story because I challenged it


No, you are just presumptuous and do not know what you are talking about.


I'm happy for you to explain it then

You were initially happy to give people the impression you feel alone when in a room full of friends, implying you have loads
of friends

now you say you don't have those friends any more

why say it in the first place then?

This is not something I would ever do ie imply I had a lot of friends when I didn't

How many friends do you have, honestly

I get very confused by this type of behaviour and just want to find out the facts

I'm not having a go at you, I'm just trying to pin down the truth of the matter


If you can't pin it down the first time, that's your problem. You don't know me and can not comment about my life in any legitimate way. I don't owe you anything, period.


You are the one contradicting yourself - one minute you're alone on a room full of friends, the next you aren't friends with them any more

You are now being very defensive - I will draw my own conclusions from this

No, you are simply annoying, like a buzzing mosquito.

But your sudden obsession with me is creepy. I will draw my own conclusions about you from that.


You got found out, I can accept that would make you annoyed

I have no obsession with you at all, I just like consistency of story



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01 Apr 2013, 7:31 am

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Most people - ASD or not, seem to be able to go out and about and make connections with people they come into contact with going about their daily life eg neighbours and work colleagues; they take it for granted that it will happen in fact.


Is that true? Wow, I'm even worse than I thought. I have never got to know any neighbours, in fact where we live now they give me looks and are not nice. Mind you they do un-neighbourly things anyway, and I am such a private person I don't want to have to know people just because they happen to live next to me.

I don't go out making connections with anyone. My husband told the clinician who diagnosed me, that if people are rude to me I am rude back. I found this odd, that he stated it as if I shouldn't be, that it's not the done thing. Why shouldn't people stand up for themselves if people are rude, and that is something that I would imagine everyone believes irrespective of ASDs.

Although my last employment was over 8 years ago, my employment history has only ever brought me one invitation to something outside of work - which I believe was to make up numbers for an activity (horse riding), and I was sent on an in-house assertiveness course, because of my bluntness and faux pas they thought would score as aggressive (more fool them because I came out passive lol) and frequently saw colleagues looking down when I said anything.

I never initiate conversation with people I come into contact with and if they initiate it, it's very forced for me and I want it to end as quickly as possible. I have forced myself into situations I hated for the sake of my children to have socialising opportunities, and it has been mentally the most exhausting thing.

I have never taken anything for granted because of my personal experiences. I thought most Aspies had similar experiences with socialising, if not, I'm amazed it took so long for me to get diagnosed.



I totally agree with being rude back and standing up for oneself thats what i do too.
That is not good of your neighbors to be mean. We have lucked out with our neighbors at least being mean and being nice.

Yet i know that they know i have Autism and thus something is "different" about me. However one of our neighbors goes to the same shrink as me (he had a brain injury & sometimes tells crazy stories) and another neighbor's son who lives down the road has BiPolar.
The folks have been on antidepressants and anti anxiety. So mental illness is definitely more accepted here i guess.



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01 Apr 2013, 8:13 am

I always thought of your avatar as a gothic minnie mouse! Puddmingmouse! I like it hehe


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01 Apr 2013, 8:46 am

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That's interesting - I haven't noticed anyone on any of the WP threads expressing how great their social life was . . .! !! !

I would have thought anyone regularly posting on this site has an unusual social life compared to the norm...

this isn't a bit of snark I'm detecting is it ?

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Well here's an interesting thing in my case. After about 15 years of being a hermit, I started going back to church. Now I was brought up in a church environment and I'm a believer, so that helps a lot. And it's a very small down home kind of fellowship. Everyone there is very genuinely nice and down to earth. So, for the last four years I have been in roomfuls of people I like and who like me (or at least pretend to. We have get togethers at peoples houses and stuff like that. They all know I'm different. Some know I'm autistic. But they're an accepting bunch.

I can't say I've actually become friends with any of them though because none of them has ever given me a phone call or asked me hang out with them outside of scheduled church functions. So basically just a place where nice people are nice to me, but nothing beyond that. No one would go will go looking for me if I stop showing up.

But that at least gives me the illusion of having friends and a social life.



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01 Apr 2013, 9:15 am

briankelley wrote:
shubunkin wrote:

That's interesting - I haven't noticed anyone on any of the WP threads expressing how great their social life was . . .! !! !

I would have thought anyone regularly posting on this site has an unusual social life compared to the norm...

this isn't a bit of snark I'm detecting is it ?

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Well here's an interesting thing in my case. After about 15 years of being a hermit, I started going back to church. Now I was brought up in a church environment and I'm a believer, so that helps a lot. And it's a very small down home kind of fellowship. Everyone there is very genuinely nice and down to earth. So, for the last four years I have been in roomfuls of people I like and who like me (or at least pretend to. We have get togethers at peoples houses and stuff like that. They all know I'm different. Some know I'm autistic. But they're an accepting bunch.

I can't say I've actually become friends with any of them though because none of them has ever given me a phone call or asked me hang out with them outside of scheduled church functions. So basically just a place where nice people are nice to me, but nothing beyond that. No one would go will go looking for me if I stop showing up.

But that at least gives me the illusion of having friends and a social life.


that sounds good to me - I've started socialising around my special interests and find it easier to have contact with people that way....the fact that you share your faith with others makes a bond with them..

I wrote the above words in answer to a post that seemed to be promoting a really narrow view of isolation and aspergers - namely that if we were ever in a room with friends this disproved our diagnosis. Which I think is BS and a very old fashioned idea about aspergers.

There are plenty of aspies that attend conferences, conventions and belong to special interest groups or hobbyists ... they may build up a network of acquaintances and friends, but still feel alone - and struggle regularly in groups.

I avoid groups as much as possible, and prefer to be with people one or two at a time, due in part to auditory processing problems - I find it tiring to follow conversation and struggle to stay focused. I want to wander off, I want to talk about my special interests and I get bored...



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01 Apr 2013, 9:22 am

shubunkin wrote:
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shubunkin wrote:

That's interesting - I haven't noticed anyone on any of the WP threads expressing how great their social life was . . .! !! !

I would have thought anyone regularly posting on this site has an unusual social life compared to the norm...

this isn't a bit of snark I'm detecting is it ?

:roll:


Well here's an interesting thing in my case. After about 15 years of being a hermit, I started going back to church. Now I was brought up in a church environment and I'm a believer, so that helps a lot. And it's a very small down home kind of fellowship. Everyone there is very genuinely nice and down to earth. So, for the last four years I have been in roomfuls of people I like and who like me (or at least pretend to. We have get togethers at peoples houses and stuff like that. They all know I'm different. Some know I'm autistic. But they're an accepting bunch.

I can't say I've actually become friends with any of them though because none of them has ever given me a phone call or asked me hang out with them outside of scheduled church functions. So basically just a place where nice people are nice to me, but nothing beyond that. No one would go will go looking for me if I stop showing up.

But that at least gives me the illusion of having friends and a social life.


that sounds good to me - I've started socialising around my special interests and find it easier to have contact with people that way....the fact that you share your faith with others makes a bond with them..

I wrote the above words in answer to a post that seemed to be promoting a really narrow view of isolation and aspergers - namely that if we were ever in a room with friends this disproved our diagnosis. Which I think is BS and a very old fashioned idea about aspergers.

There are plenty of aspies that attend conferences, conventions and belong to special interest groups or hobbyists ... they may build up a network of acquaintances and friends, but still feel alone - and struggle regularly in groups.

I avoid groups as much as possible, and prefer to be with people one or two at a time, due in part to auditory processing problems - I find it tiring to follow conversation and struggle to stay focused. I want to wander off, I want to talk about my special interests and I get bored...


I never said being in a room full of friends disproved an Asperger's diagnosis, I was just curious as to the extent to which the person who said it was affected by their Aspergers as there's the complete contrast of 'room full of friends' with 'no friends at all' that others with Aspergers experience ie two very different presentations of Aspergers and I wanted to find out more. The person didn't want to talk about it though, which I found strange.