ASD with intellectual/learning disability

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Do you have an ASD with other learning difficulties?
Yes for both having an ASD and other learning difficulties 56%  56%  [ 36 ]
I don't know 19%  19%  [ 12 ]
No, ASD only 25%  25%  [ 16 ]
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19 Apr 2013, 5:28 pm

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Nonverbal Learning Disorder (NLD) --- which means difficulties with:

visual processing
sensory integration (listening to a lecture about something concrete and then applying it -- killed me in the military)
following directions
navigation
fine motor skills
not knocking things over
using technology
doing most everyday manual tasks
executive function/planning (though I have ways of adapting pretty well; I can mostly achieve the same results through instinct that most people achieve through conscious planning)


I have NVLD too.



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19 Apr 2013, 6:49 pm

Just dysgraphia. I had to do so much remedial handwriting but it didn't get very far. At least I stopped reversing letters and confusing letters (q, g, p; b,d) with each other.



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19 Apr 2013, 11:37 pm

Lumi wrote:
Do you have ASD with other learning differences? This includes intellectual disability, and/or problems learning how to:
spell
write
move body parts (motor planning) or speak
read
math related
or other


I have issues with all these, quite badly actually, my last G12 math mark was a 57% made mainly through handing in homework, likely NVLD here. I had been given OT and speech therapy prior to being Dxed AS. I still struggle alot with everything on the list although I know my IQ and intelligence is pretty good/not below adv. so i'm not intellectually disabled.



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20 Apr 2013, 12:39 am

I'm fairly certain I have dyscalculia (math difficulty) along with my ASD. I've never been able to understand it and it just doesn't make any sense to me. My brain isn't built for numbers.


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20 Apr 2013, 9:34 am

Thank you to all who commented. I personally can read and write very well. I have dyspraxia (this shows up most when I am doing something in an unfamiliar setting, and affects my speech) and borderline intellectual disability. I have problems with basic math (low enough that it finally counted as a learning difficulty once I finished high school).


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20 Apr 2013, 3:33 pm

I have a mild stutter.



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20 Apr 2013, 3:59 pm

I have ADHD so I can blank/space out whenever, even if it looks like I'm listening. I have a combination of hyperactivity and impulsiveness.

I have trouble writing (still do) and teachers would complain that it was too messy, when their's wasn't any neater. I have trouble in dexterity related things.

Dyscalculia. I can't exactly explain it except for the dyslexia counterpart for numbers. Numbers float off the page and I try to guess which number goes where. The more frustrated I am, the worse it gets.

Echolalia is both a vocal stim and a vocal tic. When I'm upset, I repeat words obsessively or when I'm talking to someone, I repeat the last word they said. It's really annoying, but I can keep it under control most of the time.


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20 Apr 2013, 4:03 pm

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Just dysgraphia. I had to do so much remedial handwriting but it didn't get very far. At least I stopped reversing letters and confusing letters (q, g, p; b,d) with each other.


I also did reversals when I was younger and I needed to see an OT for many years to learn how to write and hold a pencil properly. It was very difficult for me to learn how to write. I've never been diagnosed with dysgraphia though....just ASD and NVLD.



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21 Apr 2013, 12:39 am

I had a reading comprehension learning disorder up until the 8th grade. I "grew out" of it. Everyone thought I was over it by 2nd grade, and I was invited to the gifted and talented program for the rest of my elementary school years. After elementary school, they placed me in the advanced Reading class. Needless to say, I struggled greatly. When I was finally taken out of the of advanced class, I did a lot better tot he point where I enjoyed reading. It could've been motivation that was the problem from 2nd grade on up. I had to practice reading things that I wanted to read in order to "get over" the learning disability. I' glad I'm over it. I can understand scientific articles, now.



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21 Apr 2013, 4:52 am

i have autism and a learning difficulty. i have low iq and always behind with maths, reading, science, computers, art, everything. i can play a few songs on a piano (one-handed), and my spelling has improved since i have been writing storys for enjoyment. also theres spellcheck on this internet i am now using.

the only things i really good at is cooking and beauty. i can cook because i like doing it, and i am very good with making myself look beautiful too.



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21 Apr 2013, 4:55 am

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Verdandi wrote:
Just dysgraphia. I had to do so much remedial handwriting but it didn't get very far. At least I stopped reversing letters and confusing letters (q, g, p; b,d) with each other.


I also did reversals when I was younger and I needed to see an OT for many years to learn how to write and hold a pencil properly. It was very difficult for me to learn how to write. I've never been diagnosed with dysgraphia though....just ASD and NVLD.


I've met one person who was diagnosed with dysgraphia. I've seen people try to blame my handwriting problems on being left-handed, but handedness doesn't cause all the issues I've had, including pain from trying to write.

In school I wasn't diagnosed with anything. I just remember people thinking that repetition would teach me how to write, and once I started to get that down people were all "time to learn cursive!" and that was something I never got the hang of. My parents were all "You're too smart to have a learning disability!" so I was mostly treated as if I was just too lazy to learn how to do things correctly.



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21 Apr 2013, 8:53 am

From my experience ASD & AS are considered themselves as being learning disabilities.



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21 Apr 2013, 9:08 am

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daydreamer84 wrote:
Verdandi wrote:
Just dysgraphia. I had to do so much remedial handwriting but it didn't get very far. At least I stopped reversing letters and confusing letters (q, g, p; b,d) with each other.


I also did reversals when I was younger and I needed to see an OT for many years to learn how to write and hold a pencil properly. It was very difficult for me to learn how to write. I've never been diagnosed with dysgraphia though....just ASD and NVLD.


I've met one person who was diagnosed with dysgraphia. I've seen people try to blame my handwriting problems on being left-handed, but handedness doesn't cause all the issues I've had, including pain from trying to write.

In school I wasn't diagnosed with anything. I just remember people thinking that repetition would teach me how to write, and once I started to get that down people were all "time to learn cursive!" and that was something I never got the hang of. My parents were all "You're too smart to have a learning disability!" so I was mostly treated as if I was just too lazy to learn how to do things correctly.


Interesting. I'm right-handed. I never had pain when trying to write but both printing and handwriting were inordinately hard for me to learn. I didn't have a proper diagnosis as a little kid but was identified as special needs so I was sent to an OT.My kindergarten teacher referred me for a neurological exam at the hospital based on "odd behaviours" I displayed in her class-constant stimming-twirling fingers in front of my eyes. I had a motor skills assessment done and they found my motor skills , fine and gross, were way underdeveloped. I also had to stay after school to practice cursive -I particularly had trouble with the capital letter D in cursive -no idea why. Now handwriting is pretty much useless as everything can be typed. :roll:

That's terrible that people thought you were just lazy. If you were born ten years later I guess the school would have referred you for an assessment for LDs.



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21 Apr 2013, 3:32 pm

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Interesting. I'm right-handed. I never had pain when trying to write but both printing and handwriting were inordinately hard for me to learn. I didn't have a proper diagnosis as a little kid but was identified as special needs so I was sent to an OT.My kindergarten teacher referred me for a neurological exam at the hospital based on "odd behaviours" I displayed in her class-constant stimming-twirling fingers in front of my eyes. I had a motor skills assessment done and they found my motor skills , fine and gross, were way underdeveloped. I also had to stay after school to practice cursive -I particularly had trouble with the capital letter D in cursive -no idea why. Now handwriting is pretty much useless as everything can be typed. :roll:

That's terrible that people thought you were just lazy. If you were born ten years later I guess the school would have referred you for an assessment for LDs.


I've only found the pain description for dysgraphia in a couple of places. I can't seem to find consistent explanations for it, aside from the poor handwriting.

My first grade teacher tried to have me assessed but my mother took it the suggestion as a personal affront and had me diagnosed as nearsighted and had me take an IQ test to prove that my IQ was too high to have a learning disability. Strangely, the nearsightedness lasted all of two years and I actually have fairly acute vision near and far and have for as long as I can remember.



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21 Apr 2013, 3:42 pm

^^^
I think now the way they identify LD is the discrepancy between your IQ and your academic performance. So if your writing were way below developmental level but you had a normal or high IQ that would be a learning disability in writing. They also look for discrepancies in your sub-scores on the IQ test.



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21 Apr 2013, 3:47 pm

daydreamer84 wrote:
^^^
I think now the way they identify LD is the discrepancy between your IQ and your academic performance. So if your writing were way below developmental level but you had a normal or high IQ that would be a learning disability in writing. They also look for discrepancies in your sub-scores on the IQ test.


IQ = tested at 145+
GPA = 1.0-2.0

A bit of a discrepancy there. :P

It would have been nice to have a more thorough, more useful evaluation like that.