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And he's not 2 and 1/2 Pay attention when you read. He IS 14 though. And I let him know he IS normal . I'm a loving Dad to him and he knows that. I'm not saying AUTISM is not real. It is. But Asperger's I feel is just a way to make sense of all the things we do that make us feel like we are different. You should be looking at other more serious mental illnesses. But I see that at least all of you on here have closed minds and that 'I'm right ,you're wrong"mentallity. Just like racism, homophobia,religion. Making Asperger's like a facebook thing. "your screenames" chatting.. when YOU should be spending time with YOUR kids or working on your owen Faux-sperger's" Well I'm off to go scream in the corner for an hour. I must have it too
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if your questioning your kids diagnosis, ask the doctor that did it. We aren't doctors here, we cant answer your questions.

Jason, as I read your posts in this thread, in many ways I have tons of sympathy for what you're saying. Especially against the backdrop of the home you grew up in and your own childhood.

You may even be right, your son and the one in that blog post may simply be normal children, and I do agree, nobody particularly likes those things. What they have listed there may be a flimsy case for diagnosing a child, all by itself. There would have to be other factors too.

I actually think you're going about this in a very sensible way as far as whether these individual children have Asperger's.

My thoughts on the other side of the coin are:

Do pursue the truth, whatever it may be. But don't fear a diagnosis of Asperger's (or ASD now). As Callista said, it is a smooth spectrum which makes it confusing, but a diagnosis is there to aid understanding and to hopefully help guide how to address the issues. If someone is mildly Aspie, it may be frustrating and hard to "call it" one way or the other, but if you can tell it's that type of issue, it may make it really easy to understand and address (not eliminate) the problems. And then your son and / or yourself can go on living basically normal lives. You don't even have to tell anyone.

The diagnosis of Asperger's is indeed going away. At least from DSM-5, which is the authoritative text in the USA, but doesn't have the exclusive last word elsewhere in the world.
But the reason Asperger's is going away is because it's so hard to tell it apart from Autism, and not all the experts in the psychiatric field are convinced there's a difference. So they are diagnosing Asperger's and Autism as being the same thing: Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD), and while Asperger's may be going away as a separate term, Autism and ASD are not.

You and your son may not have Asperger's or ASD, but that doesn't mean that no one else does either, including those who are mild. It's worth reiterating; some with a disability, any disability, are severely affected and some are only very mildly affected. The trick is to understand what the disability is, and thus what approach is needed for coping with it. I would never tell someone with a broken leg to walk it off, and I would never tell someone who has sensory issues for neurological reasons to force themselves to remain in surroundings where they're feeling overloaded.

I hope for all the best for you and your son, and I think you are probably wonderful people who are doing fine in life, whether you have ASD or not.
Please don't feel labeled or belittled or doomed to a life of disability by the possibility that you may (or may not) have a diagnosis.

I'd encourage you to have a look at this video too, just because it does a great job of breaking some of this down. She starts getting specific about Asperger's at the 44 second mark:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_8j59cU_PY[/youtube]

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I can't speak to your child because I do not know your child.

You're coming into a forum filled with people who are diagnosed with a particular condition that you are claiming isn't real. Is it really any surprise as to why people might react negatively to your posts?

No one here is having a "fit" but you.

Perhaps trolling for attention?

I was just informed that my post is upsetting everyone and I'm sorry. I wish you all the best of luck getting treatment and I should have been more tactful. I was mean so that gave you the chance to be mean too. We're both wrong. Juts don't confuse annoying sounds,bright light,etc with a disorder. Just realize that's life and take the battery out of the clock.Put on sunglasses. And try to have an open mind to other people. Being closeminded is not Asperger's . It's having a control issue. thank you

(It appears we have a frustrated parent trolling the community. Anyone that spent more than a minute researching the condition should know that any ASD is potentially debilitating. AS is no different. Fortunately some people can function better than others pretty much like almost every other disability. Many of us ARE NOT looking to get meds or government payments, but here we have a community that can learn to cope with their condition together and have peace of mind when there is one that can still be pieced together and/or seeking our options.)

Wow that was un called for. You are accusing members of being close minded yet you don't seem to want to hear anything other then what you wish to believe..

If you choose to not believe that Aspergers is real (or as it is now known as autism spectrum disorder " level 1? Then that's up to you. If you don't want to try and take the time to listen to members to read and open your own mind that's okay too. Was your son recently diagnosed? By the way so one with Aspergers can still be social but struggle with socialization I have met many with Aspergers who are very friendly and social but thier approach is off.


I am an adult on the autism spectrum, I don't have kids I have a retired service dog.. I struggle everyday to do the things that most people take for granted. I spent many years working hard to gain the skills I have now. As for other members on here posting and talking online, well yeah that's what a forum is for, it doesn't mean they aren neglecting anything or anyone. Many on here like me do not have any children. You do come off a lot like a troll with how you respond to members. However if you are not a troll I hope you find peace with your sons diagnosis someday and weather you believe his diagnosis is real or not that you support him and let him know you love and believe in him. Also you never mentioned his age in your original post admitted end I think people thoughts your son was 2 1/2 because you posted about a blog you found with a mother or father questioning if thier daughter had Aspergers and where the line was. So they figured with out further details your son must be quite young as well. Maybe you could talk to your son ask him what he has trouble with and instead of going after a label find ways to help him in his struggles.


And no you don't grow out of autism or Aspergers.

That sounds accurate to me.

I don't need treatment. I need to be the free-range Aspie that I am and be accepted as I am.

There's minimal difference between high functioning Autism and Aspergers. If Aspergers didn't exist, people would just be diagnosed with Autism. Actually, many are just told they have Autism and no further tests are carried out to see where on the spectrum they are.

The name "Fauxtism" alone seems to convey that very implication.

After that other thread the possibility did cross my mind.



No one is confusing annoying sounds, bright lights, etc. with a disorder. However, there are disorders that relate to sounds and lights being far more annoying or distressing to some people than others. For light, this is called "photophobia" and most people do not have it. Most people do not have extreme difficulty seeing in direct sunlight, or can see but everything is washed out as it might be if you turn the monitor up. Most people do not get severe headaches or even migraines if they forget to wear sunglasses, hats, etc. when going outside. Most people do not find fluorescent lights distressing.

For sound, there is hyperacusis and vestibular hyperacusis. Most people do not react to noises like people who have these two conditions. There's also misophonia, which is characterized by a rage/anxiety reaction to certain soft/quiet sounds like chewing, sniffing, coughing, and other similar noises.

People are also hypersensitive to touch, such that any physical contact is upsetting and disturbing. Also sensitive to smells to the point that going near cleaning aisles in stores, or being around people wearing perfume or cologne in any quantity is difficult to impossible, or unable to tolerate the smell of cigarette smoke. Or sensitivity to food textures can make it very difficult to eat certain foods.

There are also hyposensitivities, but I have less experience with that.

None of the above means that no one who isn't autistic ever experiences them as well, but these traits are far more common and more severe among autistic people.

Do not mistake a rejection of your stated views for closemindedness. You can't really go into a community and tell everyone in it that they're living a lie and expect to receive a positive response. It's not closemindedness to reject statements that are plainly false, and your statements about AS are plainly false. You don't understand AS very well, and attempted to use that lack of understanding to explain that it does not exist.

The End.